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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:25 PM
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Who knows how the bush team was actually formed?
The likelihood is that many of the blatantly stupidest moves, such as the Mission Accomplished sign, came from the 20-somethings from Liberty University and their ilk, who appear to have the level of comprehension of a two-year-old. We know that one of them was dictating to a senior NASA scientist what he was allowed to say about climate change (nothing) and requiring him to submit a daily diary of everyone he spoke to.

I wonder what more-senior member of the bush inner circle made the call to hire 120 of those morons, anyway? Cheney was the one who picked the big dogs, but who was handling the next tier? I doubt Rove was particularly hands-on at that level either. Did bush bring in an old roommate or drinking buddy like Bremer, and give that person carte blanche to hire whatever he wanted? One of those twits at DoJ had hiring/firing authority over people much their senior. But who made that call? Gonzo? Who WAS minding the store as this so-called administration was assembled?

Has someone like Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell been even more influential than we realize?



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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:35 PM
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1. No, but Timothy LaHaye and Ted Haggard
were very influential in getting religious nutcases appointed to scientific and regulatory agencies they never should have been allowed near.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:40 PM
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2. I just went to their website and took a look around
Their mission statement is enough to make a trained mind reel. Interestingly enough they have a couple Alumni Chapters but I wasn't able to get any information from them, not a single name.

It is a very serious question and where it might get real interesting is not in the ones who got themselves appointments, but how about others that are likely hidden down in the Civil Service on this or that fast track to 15's or SESs? It is hard to Imagen that they are not seeding these little zealots throughout the Agencies to reappear a generation from now in positions of authority.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:57 PM
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7. Bingo
They have infested and infected every fugging agency.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:47 PM
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3. I believe the Bohemian Grove and George Shultz planted the seed
Schultz introduced Rice to then-Governor George W. Bush. Men behind the curtain, the Generals, drew the blueprint and pull the strings of the Lieutenants, Cheney et al, to perform their given task.
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:48 PM
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4. Poopy doesn't seem so busy, and when he calls, the calls are taken....eom
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:55 PM
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5. didn't Sun Myung Moon help bail out Liberty University at one time?
I seem to remember hearing something about it.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:57 PM
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6. When the blood of a thousand children was offered to the Goat Lord? - n/t
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 09:14 PM
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16. Good one!
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:33 AM
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18. Good chance that was the plan
Problem with that is that they've probably killed all the goats in Iraq by now too, which of course pisses the Goat Lord off to no end.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:39 AM
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19. That's why they also worship the Prince of Hypocrisy, who is pleased by everything they do. - n/t
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 06:00 PM
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8. My bad - It's Regent University School of Law
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 06:01 PM by frogcycle
Liberty is Falwell's liberal arts school that's been around for years; Regent's is Robertson's "law' school aimed at cranking out fundie lawyers to rewrite the constitution

http://www.slate.com/id/2163601/

"Goodling is only one of 150 graduates of Regent University currently serving in this administration, as Regent's Web site proclaims proudly, a huge number for a 29-year-old school. Regent estimates that "approximately one out of every six Regent alumni is employed in some form of government work." And that's precisely what its founder desired. The school's motto is "Christian Leadership To Change the World," and the world seems to be changing apace. Former Attorney General John Ashcroft teaches at Regent, and graduates have achieved senior positions in the Bush administration. The express goal is not only to tear down the wall between church and state in America (a "lie of the left," according to Robertson) but also to enmesh the two."

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 06:02 PM
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9. Ah, one in the mountains and on on the beach.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 06:07 PM
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10. Satan farted.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 06:20 PM
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11. Wasn't Baker in charge of the 'transition team'? It would have been someone under him.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 06:56 PM
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12. The mothership ding-donged, "Ta-da-DA-da-DAH!!1"
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 07:02 PM
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13. They are Gingrich and Rove's "Guys & Gals" and they will be WITH US Forever
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 07:03 PM by KoKo01
in our future. Just as the Nixon Youth's clones and their OP'S lived on and created the MONSTER we deal with today! And, throw the Religions RW FUNDIES into the Picture like Ralph Reed and the rest and you've got the picture of the POWER & INFILTRATION!

The "Hitler Youth" have Universities and Funding and Media Support! They have infiltrated EVERY PART OF OUR MEDIA AND SOCIETY!

I and many others here, will be long cold in our graves before they are gone. They will LIVE ...like the UNDEAD for a CENTURY. Lawyers, Wall St. Traders, Kids of the Famed Think Tank'ers whose parents give them jobs, and EVERYWHERE including the Judges and Circuit Courts and in our LOCAL GOV'T in every Hill and Holler of AMERICA..........THEY ARE THEIR!

THEY'VE HAD SINCE NIXON TO DO IT! And some Johnson years, too!

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 07:07 PM
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14. Clinton's 8 years in office
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 07:08 PM by SoCalDem
Poppy Bush, miffed by his seemingly undeserved loss, spent those years in Texas...plotting his revenge..

The plan was for Jebbie to be president, but then Colomba got busted for smuggling, so the other son..the dumb one.. was tapped.

GHWB is the ONLY president to ever accept the daily CIA briefings (it's always offered, but the others all turned it down).

GHWB has always had his bony finger on the pulse of things.

It't no accident that almost ALL of ²'s henchmen are retreads from his FATHER's stable of cronies.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 07:19 PM
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15. Bush Sr and some in the high posts were around at the time of the first Kennedy
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 07:22 PM by higher class
assassination. Some were around for Vietnam, Watergate, plenty were there for Iran-Contra, and South America, and they came back. These are the face people. They are the ones who have been given authority to pretend like the country is normal. They report to and get authority from non-face barons and foundation presidents ceo's and reverends. Kissinger is there favorite in and out person. Baker and some of the part-face Federalist Society members play an enormous role - in addition to the Fed Reserve and foreign partners.

Plenty of consecutive heads of major departments such as GAO, FDA, and DOD have been hand picked to work for the lobbyists and look the other way It's all about how much face they show - never forget the no-face ones - they are the ones who gave the old players using a new name for a plan (PNAC), the APPROVAL to go after all the earth resources and impose control over we who still believe that this is our country, and believe in diplomatic relationships, negotiations, buying and trading straight, honesty and integrity.

Someone told those who came back with with the old gangs and those who joined that they would not be found out - the the world was there to take and rule. Those who joined who brought all the dynamite to blow up our Constitution were 'kids' doing the bidding of Israel and the reverends.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 10:25 AM
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17. Yeah, I know where the big dogs came from
But who made the call to welcome the 'kids'?
It has to have been intentional. It has to have been a religious zealot. Was it bush himself?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 11:36 AM
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20. It was a trade - a trade for votes. Abortion and guns have always
Edited on Sun Aug-26-07 11:38 AM by higher class
been at the trading center for votes. Now, they have added - all those who wanted to own our country in parallel with the corporations, barons, and military. The Republican Party did not hide the fact that they were the party that supported guns and abortion.

In exchange for becoming the Republican loyal voting base - they dictated what it would take.

They (the reverends) groomed and still groom candidates at their schools and seminars - they being the reverends who are as obsessed with controlling the nation as the corporations and military - both for the jobs that are in the spotlight presently and for more subtle and equally effective 'conversion'.

They don't really need born agains in the WH or Cabinet - they only need a face who pretends to be born again. The real action is in all the levels lower than where the the camera is pointed.

For example, they could not have pulled off the vote thefts without those people who were convinced that their religion was the only choice for our country. There are jokesters and fools among them and Supreme Court judges as well.

The born agains were very bigoted against Jews until someone thought up the plan that allowed all born agains to support Israel and work side-by-side with them over there and in the Pentagon or RNC or DOJ or county office or District court or Supreme Court or Air Force division for the greater resurrection to come (soon).

They are playing it smart - an exchange of votes for imbedded faithful who will transform this nation.
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