Robert Fisk may need to have a talk with Greg Palast

[seemslikeadream]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/25/21713/8731

Robert Fisk goes off the deep end!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=170604&mesg_id=170681
karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Sat Aug-25-07 12:28 PM
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76. He has every single tinfoil talking point committed to memory.
And says he's not a CT? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


Wotta fuckin' moran.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fisk

Described by the New York Times as "probably the most famous foreign correspondent in Britain",<3> he has over thirty years of experience in international reporting, dating from 1970s Belfast and Portugal's 1974 Carnation Revolution, the 1975-1990 Lebanese Civil War, and encompassing the 1979 Iranian revolution, the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war, 1991 Persian Gulf War, and 2003 Invasion of Iraq. He is the world's most-decorated foreign correspondent,<4> having received numerous awards including the British Press Awards' International Journalist of the Year award seven times. Fisk speaks good vernacular Arabic, and is one of the few Western journalists to have interviewed Osama bin Laden (three times between 1994 and 1997).<5>

In the British journalistic tradition of the foreign correspondent, Fisk has developed a personal analysis of the foreign affairs that he covers and presents them in that light, often with trenchant criticism of the British government and its allies. His admirers take this as a sign of his depth of knowledge; his critics take it as confirmation of his incorrigible bias. Fisk is a consistent critic of what he perceives as hypocrisy in British government foreign policy.

Fisk's reporting—and his bestselling books, based on his field notes and recordings— offer strong criticisms of Middle Eastern governments as well as what he perceives as hypocrisy in British and United States government foreign policy. His view of journalism is that it must "challenge authority — all authority — especially so when governments and politicians take us to war", and he quotes with approval the Israeli journalist Amira Hass: "There is a misconception that journalists can be objective ... What journalism is really about is to monitor power and the centres of power."<6> Fisk has received widespread praise and criticism for his condemnation of violence against civilians, what his admirers see as his courageous reporting, and his willingness to challenge the statements of governments. Speaking of the historical basis for the conflicts he has covered Fisk said, "After the allied victory of 1918, at the end of my father's war, the victors divided up the lands of their former enemies. In the space of just seventeen months, they created the borders of Northern Ireland, Yugoslavia and most of the Middle East. And I have spent my entire career — in Belfast and Sarajevo, in Beirut and Baghdad — watching the people within those borders burn."
Osama bin Laden, 9/11, and the war in Afghanistan
Fisk is one of the few Western journalists to have interviewed Osama bin Laden - three times (all published by The Independent: December 6, 1993 July 10, 1996, and March 22, 1997). During one of Fisk's interviews with Bin Laden, Fisk noted an attempt by Bin Laden to possibly recruit him. Bin Laden said, "Mr Robert, one of our brothers had a dream. He dreamed ... that you were a spiritual person ... this means you are a true Muslim." Fisk replied, "Sheikh Osama, I am not a Muslim ... I am a journalist".<7> Bin Laden and Adam Gadahn, an alleged Al-Qaeda spokesman and translator of American birth, have apparently mentioned Robert Fisk in speeches. Osama bin Laden said Fisk's reporting was "neutral".<8> According to a MEMRI report, on September 2, 2006, in a videotaped statement, Adam Gadahn, said that Fisk and George Galloway have a "respect and admiration for Islam," have "sympathy for Muslims their causes", and added "I say to them, isn't it time you stopped sitting on the fence and came over to the side of truth?". <9>.



http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk02152003.html
February 15, 2003

The Case Against War
Tales to Frighten Children
By ROBERT FISK

In the end, I think we are just tired of being lied to. Tired of being talked down to, of being bombarded with Second World War jingoism and scare stories and false information and student essays dressed up as "intelligence". We are sick of being insulted by little men, by Tony Blair and Jack Straw and the likes of George Bush and his cabal of neo-conservative henchmen who have plotted for years to change the map of the Middle East to their advantage.

[seemslikeadream]

1. WHY all of a sudden is Greg Palast being trashed? BTW I know he's not BRITISH

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=988337


Is Palast A Bullshit Artist? Takes Years Old Info, Repackages It, Claims HE Found It?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=876877

[izzie]

2. I would never say Fisk is off the wall. This is blow back

We have to get out of the Middle East and let them run their own business and country. We are just asking for trouble with this endless foreign policy of trying to run other peoples countries. I would think the Brits have learned that even if the leaders have not. With over 700 bases around the world the USA will be paying for that long after I am dead. People have just got to wake up to what our leaders are doing.

[Truth2Tell]

3. K & R - As more and more relatively mainstream

thinkers begin to speak out about 9-11 truth - which they inevitably will - the most ardent deniers will begin to howl like banshees and fling poo like juvenile apes. Predictable.

[EVDebs]

4. You got it bass ackwards. He's regained sanity by questioning the Official Conspiracy Theory 9-11

Just examine Richard Gage's video re the fall of the towers and other WTC blgs

http://www.ae911truth.org/

and dig this, a NIST official is asking questions now,

James Quintiere, Ph.D., former Chief of the Fire Science Division of the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), has called for an independent review of NIST's investigation into the collapses of the World Trade Center Towers on 9/11.

[noise]

5. Some people (like the President)

refuse to consider the prospect of complexity. Cognitive psychologists refer to black and white thinking as a cognitive distortion. For example, if one questions the official account of 9/11, someone may accuse that person of desiring to live under Sharia law. Because as we all know, there are only two possible prospects in the Universe...a police state under George W. Bush or Sharia law under al Qaeda.

It is possible to oppose BOTH corrupt politicians who would use terrorism as a pretext for an ulterior agenda AND radical Islamic terrorists who would murder Americans based on their extremist interpretation of jihad.

Questioning the official account of 9/11 is not based on a desire to live under Sharia law. It's not even based on anti-American sentiment. Or a desire to be privy to secret knowledge. It's based on an official account that doesn't add up. And the lack of transparency. It took over three years to have a CYA CIA IG report declassified for crying out loud. And that was just the 19 page executive summary!

Yet, the same secretive officials have told the public they cannot prevent terror attacks without resorting to permanent war and the use of anti-terrorism tactics out of Saddam Hussein's playbook. That isn't acceptable. Not for a President that ignored briefings and refused to hold Cabinet meetings despite urgent warnings.

So yes I have some skepticism. Calling someone a conspiracy theorist for being skeptical is a garbage tactic. Citizens should ask why so called journalists have no curiosity about 9/11. They are citizens too. Aren't they concerned about the lack of accountability? Don't they wonder why Bush cannot do his job without trashing the Constitution?

[althecat]

6. Good on him.....

About bloody time.

Daily Kos censorship meanwhile.. that is the real disgrace.