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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 06:54 PM
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My 1000th post: A remarkable woman and a myth buster
This is a long post, but it addresses important issues for this election season, so I hope that you will read to the end.

She was "college grade" when she graduated from High School, but was tired of school, and didn’t know what she wanted to do with her life, so she opted to flip pizzas, and have some fun.

Fast forward 6 years: she is an unmarried mother with a 13-month-old and a newborn. She is living with the father of both children, but realizes that there is only one responsible adult in that house, and very little income.

She wisely chooses to go to college. Two relatives can initially provide child care while she is in school, and some assistance with housing, but nothing else. She cobbles together scholarships, grants, and student loans to make it happen.

A year into college, the relationship with her children’s father goes belly up. Now she has to work too, and add some daycare to her fragile budget. She takes service work, all that’s available...afternoons and sometimes long evenings at just above minimum wage, with study time virtually wiped out, except for nights that she should be sleeping. Still she persists, and graduates from her two-year liberal arts college with a 4.0 GPA.

Her finances are so bad that she works full-time for a year, then heads into a program requiring 3 more years (accounting degree + extra hours required for CPA). At this time she has a weekend job at a hospital as ER clerk: two back-to-back 16-hour shifts (7a-11p) on weekends when grandparents can keep the children. She picks up her sleeping girls at 11:30 or 12:00 on Sunday night, drives an hour home and PRAYS that they can be put to bed without waking up. She has 8 am classes, and must get the girls to daycare or school before that. Despite the horrid weekends, she has a "good" schedule. She takes classes in am, has a couple of hours to do lab work, run errands, etc. then picks up the girls so that they have afternoons and evenings together compensating for the "lost" weekends .

Last May, she graduated Magna Cum Laude, and joined the accounting firm where she did her internship at a salary of about 3 times what she made previously.

IT WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT PUBLIC ASSISTANCE.

Access to grants, scholarships, and affordable student loans are essential for poor, as well as most middle class students to enter college or voc/tech schools to improve their prospects. In varying degrees depending upon her circumstances, this woman had her children covered by Medicaid, day-care assistance, food stamps. It DID pay off. She will now pay far, far more in income taxes during her lifetime than the assistance that she received, and will contribute more to our common good.

Despite the enormous costs we face cleaning up from the disastrous Bush/Cheney administration, we MUST remember the young people who are trying to get ahead of the curve. They richly deserve the dollars the republicans love to take away, and we Dems must keep it coming. It is one of the best investments we can make for our country today, and certainly for our future.

Yes, I’m the mother of this wonderful young person, and I’m not just proud of her, I’m in awe. To persevere and succeed under her circumstances is truly remarkable. She was a brilliant, highly-motivated student, and a very productive intern which led to a great job straight out of college. She is also a terrific mom and daughter, and my greatest joy today is seeing her without the stress written all over her face.

If you hear someone talking about "Welfare Queens," please feel free to share her story. (ummmm If you do, she drove an old Chevy Cavalier, not a Caddy, and she did ALL the HARD WORK, George.)

Now let’s go make sure it happens for someone else’s daughter or son!






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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 07:01 PM
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1. My son with MS was recently told
that the person who is educated through voc rehab ends up paying $11 in taxes for every $1 spent on the help he/she got.

I'd say that's more than a fair return.

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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 07:04 PM
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2. But that is the myth they use to cut funds...
it is too expensive. Remember, their goal is to starve government.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 07:04 PM
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3. Alright!!! I love to see the human potential revealed like that.
Edited on Mon Aug-27-07 07:05 PM by lvx35
And I know you're right, its the public assistence that makes it possible. I am working a job that offers very little to society now, but I know if I had free grad schools like many countries I would be contributing some amazing technology, which is where my heart is. Stories like this remind us of what people can do when we have a public policy that believes in them.

edit: oops China cat, was trying to respond to OP.
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 07:09 PM
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5. absolutely! Thank you and your son!
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 07:06 PM
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4. Congrats to you and your daughter
:hug:
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 07:12 PM
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6. Thank you. She deserves the congrats
It was HER HARD WORK, George! LOL
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 07:19 PM
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7. Wonderful story and outcome. Congratulations!
"Now let’s go make sure it happens for someone else’s daughter or son!"

:toast:
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 08:04 PM
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8. Great 1000th. Congratulations to your daughter...
... and remind her that she's in good company with Former Representative Patricia Schroeder, first woman elected to the House from Colorado, who was also on welfare for a time
when she was getting *her* education.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Schroeder
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 08:17 PM
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9. Thank you.
I greatly admire Schroeder but didn't know that connection. Thanks so much for sharing!
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 08:27 PM
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10. I didn't see it mentioned at Wikipedia...
...but I remember seeing her on television years ago, talking about the good things welfare can do to give people a leg up.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 09:38 PM
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11. Congratulations!
You have every right to be proud of your daughter. This is exactly where I want to see my taxes going, not to Blackwater and Halliburton.
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 09:51 PM
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12. Thank you for your tax dollars.
And I agree. This is where it should be.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 10:31 PM
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13. Similar to my Sister's story...
Except while she was on Public assistance, all child support payments were taken to offset welfare, even though the child support was more than the welfare. Why did she submit to that? She had to be on public assistance to maintain her grants which were paying the tuition. She had to continually fight to remain on welfare and not be forced into fulltime work because there was a difference of opinion about whether or not college counted as work. Still, she finished a nursing degree Magna Cum Laud in 3 years.

I was aghast when I found out about the then relatively new welfare to work laws.

-Hoot
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:05 PM
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18. One of the women I went to nursing school with
Was on public assistance, and had to fight like hell to keep her AFDC, because even in the 70's the idiots in charge didn't think that was "work". What a short-sighted and foolish notion! Here was a woman who was doing her damnedest to train for a career so that she'd never have to go on welfare again, and they gave her a hard time?

Sigh.

Sometimes I wish I lived in Europe.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 01:22 AM
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14. A great post to mark your 1,000th -- congratulations!
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:13 AM
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15. God bless you both!
That is the best story I've heard in a while. I'm so happy she managed. it gives me hope that the American dream is not totally lost. The fact that you were supporting her, believe me, gave her the strength to carry on, in addition to just wanting the best for her children. I'm so happy for her!

Thank you so much for sharing. :):grouphug:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:45 AM
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16. I'm betting her success also had something to do
with guidance and support from her mother. Congrats to you both. :D
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:15 AM
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17. Fantastic story and you should be proud of yourself as well.
I, too, am a product of lots of different financial assistance over the years: food stamps, college work-study, all sorts of educational loans and a few hard-earned scholarships. Without them I wouldn't be the physician I am today. The American Dream is a reality of sorts - you just have to find the help and do the hard yards sometimes.

Thanks for making this point.
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:23 PM
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19. Thank you.
You might do a post with your story, avrdream. Many people think physicians are just people who go to school for a little extra time, and graduate instant millionaires. The reality of the looooong years, the enormous student debts most med students incur, the hand-to-mouth existence, etc. is simply not recognized.
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