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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:41 PM
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"I am not gay,nor have I ever been gay." Sen. Craig.
:eyes:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:42 PM
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1. He makes it sound like it's a crime.
I will never understand these people.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:45 PM
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12. The jerk is from Idaho....gay = political suicide.
And it's obvious his loyalties are to his career in politics.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:42 PM
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2. In response...
"He is not gay, nor has he ever been gay." -The Gay Community
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:50 PM
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24. Well, maybe just that once.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:42 PM
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3. Oh Jesus, Larry, COME ON!!! Man up to it!
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:43 PM
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4. Listen, just because I like hot, hot gay watersports doesn't mean I'm gay.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:43 PM
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5. OK, how about "bi" then?
:shrug:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:43 PM
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6. He's just a bit "light in the loafers"....not gay.
Good luck with that denial there, bathroom troll.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:43 PM
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7. Yea, THAT story is gonna fly!!!! Tubin on CNN saying this is the
MOST BIZARRE story by a politician ever!!!!
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:44 PM
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8. It's like he's daring all his ex liaisons to call the National Inquirer
I imagine he made a LOT of phone calls before releasing a statement like that.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:44 PM
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9. However if a man has a need to give me a BJ
in the airport restroom for 20 bucks, who am I to complain?
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:49 PM
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23. lol
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Va Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:45 PM
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10. A littlle advice for you Larry...
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:45 PM
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11. It's like he's daring all his ex liaisons to call the National Inquirer
I imagine he made a LOT of phone calls beforreleasing a statement like that.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:46 PM
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15. If his ex-liasons were from his usual pick-up site...
....I doubt he has their numbers.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:45 PM
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13. He should take one from Gonzo's book:
"I don't recall having oral sex with that man.

Or that one.

Or that one, either.

I don't recall having sex with any man...

In fact, I don't recall ever having sex period, but I guess I must have since I have children."

:rofl:
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:47 PM
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I heard earlier today that all his kids are adopted....???
Was on one of the nooz progs...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:03 PM
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37. I believe they are
his wife's children from a previous marriage.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 09:10 AM
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49. THAT would explain a lot.
Things that make you go hmmm... :eyes:
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:54 PM
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28. Or Bill's book:
I did not have sexual relations with that man, Mister Lewinsky.
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beastieboy Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:46 PM
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14. Looking for anonymous blowjobs in the mens room doesn't make you gay?
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:48 PM
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20. Not if you pay.
:silly: :P
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:49 PM
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22. Maybe he was gonna ask that undercover cop if he has a sister.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:47 PM
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16. He means he's never been happy.
Homosexual on the other hand....
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:47 PM
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17. To be fair, getting off on being hoisted on your own petard is not just a gay fetish
He's what you might call "Republosexual"
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:47 PM
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18. "In fact, I am so dour that Nitrous Oxide is necessary for campaign photos"...
:evilgrin:
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Sukie1941 Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:48 PM
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19. Where are the others?
If Sen. Craig has been investigated before, or if there have been whispers, where are his accusers?

I think he has lame excuses for the current mess, but I would hope others would come forward if there are truths to other situations Craig has been involved in.

If he is gay, he is gay, or bisexual. Nothing wrong with that.

His activity at the airport was against the law, that is the problem.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 09:36 AM
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50. According to an investigative reporter with the Idaho Statesman
the newspaper that has looked into Craig and helped break the story if I understood the discussion correctly, in 1967 a pledge at Craig's fraternity complained that Craig had hit on him. In 1982 a page reported that he had had sex with Craig, however an investigation, headed by Joseph Califano, concluded that the page had lied and the page later recanted his testimony. The Idaho Statesman has also spoken with and investigated the claims of an informant, whom they believe to be credible, who stated he had had (I can't remember if the reporter said it was one encounter or more than one)sex with Craig and DC's Union Station. I also believe that the Statesman reporter indicated they had several other people with similar stores that they were investigating.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:48 PM
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21. What a f*cking LIAR, and what does his orientation have to do with the charges
of propositioning an undercover cop? Then he has the audacity to tell the American public that he plead guilty by accident? Where are all the morals, etc. that repugs insist they have? I'm so offended by the BS he just spouted, as he is insulting our collective intelligence.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:51 PM
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25. Again, this is an Idaho moment. The problem isn't the lewdness, it's the gaity
He could survive a female hooker scandal--It's still even money Vitter will. But a gay scandal will end it all.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:51 PM
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26. If you keep having to tell people publicly and repeatedly that you are not gay...
then you are clearly gay.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:51 PM
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27. I Am Curious About The Dialectic
When does one go from straight to gay to bisexual and are these statuses mutable or fixed...
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:55 PM
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29. yes, well, he has a 1982 FBI report that says he is not gay
So he has done his due diligence apparently

http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/143801.html

Craig allowed the Statesman to review, but not copy, what he said were an FBI report and a privately administered polygraph from 1982 regarding the page scandal.

Craig did not respond to requests to have the FBI verify the authenticity of the FBI document. Craig also declined to sign a waiver allowing the Statesman to review anything in his FBI file regarding homosexuality.

The FBI document supplied by Craig describes a July 20, 1982, FBI interview with Craig at the offices of his Washington law firm. Craig requested the interview with the FBI and said reporters had threatened to disclose allegations of homosexuality.

"Craig stated that he had never engaged in a homosexual relationship" with Williams or Opp, the FBI report said. "Craig further indicated that he has never engaged in a homosexual relationship with any person."

The document says Craig told the FBI that he suspected that then-Rep. Patricia Schroeder, D-Colo., might be behind the allegations against him. Opp was appointed by Schroeder. "Craig said that recent polls indicate strong support for his re-election this fall, and he perceives this as a slanderous campaign by the opposition party to have him defeated," said the report.

An attached document from a polygraph examiner hired by Craig said it was the examiner's opinion "that Congressman Craig is not a homosexual and has since adulthood not engaged in homosexual acts of any type."
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:59 PM
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36. Oh jeez, he's citing a polygraph test? Why not cite a ouija board?
They have the SAME level of accuracy.

Polygraphs are BULLSHIT. We are just about the ONLY First World country that allows their use in court!
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:14 PM
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40. Yes but 25 years ago he told the FBI he was not gay!
He has an FBI report that says he is not gay, which he recently shared with his harassers at the statesman. He has apparently been hanging onto the FBI report for 25 years for just such a purpose. Clearly he knows what he is talking about, jiminy god! Not gay.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:04 PM
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42. Who in the hell hangs onto a 25 year old report confirming they are straight?
:wtf:

That ALONE makes him look like a liar.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:56 PM
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30. He just likes balls in his face
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:56 PM
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31. But I'm willing to learn.... n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:56 PM
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32. I'll believe that when me shit turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert!
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:57 PM
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33. So? You're still a convicted PERVERT.
Most people don't care about the gay part pinhead, and ONLY A REPUBLICAN would take more offense at being called GAY than being a CONVICTED PERVERT.

This guy is DONE. Even though he is from the most politically ignorant, socially backward state in the union (and I am saying this from LOUISIANA!), he is still DONE.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:58 PM
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34. "It's just that you don't usually find women to give you a blow job in the men's rooms at airports."
"Yeah... that's the ticket..."
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 03:59 PM
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35. Senator, liberate yourself. Just be true to yourself. You'll feel a lot better.
Really.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with being gay. Nothing.

And I feel sorry for you if you can't be honest with who and what you are.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:05 PM
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38. His voice is very irritating too
He sounds like a pompous jackass.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:05 PM
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39. He could technically be telling the truth. He could be bi.
It's possible.

:shrug:
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 04:23 PM
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41. That's What I Asked
Is sexuality fixed or mutable?
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:09 PM
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43. Cop in the stall enticed Craig
Cop whispered IDAHO and Craig said how much.

















LMAO
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:09 PM
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44. Sounds like we have another Mr. Garrison...


Mr. Garrison: Hey! hurry up! Your takin too long in the damn tree of insides!
You in there? My god! Where the hell did she go?
Ah! Who are you?
Mr. Garrison's gay side: Me? I am your gay side.
Mr. Garrison: My gay side? I DON'T HAVE A GAY SIDE!
Gay side: You must face me!
Mr. Garrison: You ain't real. You can't be!
Gay side: It is me. Your gay self and denial of who you are. Who "we" are.
Mr. Garrison: But i'm not gay!
Gay side: OH STOP IT! What about the time you looked at
Kel Sermackey's penis in the men's locker room!
Mr. Garrison: I was just comparing size!
Gay side: FOR 7 MINUTES? Oh! And what about the time you masterbaited
off to the men's swimming team!
Mr. Garrison: I was beating off to the chicks!
Gay side: THERE WERE NO CHICKS!
Mr. Garrison: Oh damn you spirit! Haunt me no more!
Gay side: ADMIT IT!

http://www.actionext.com/names_s/southpark_lyrics/im_not_gay_-mr_garrison.html
Mr. Garrison: NO!!!
Gay side: ADMIT IT!
Mr. Garrison: Alright! Alright! I'm gay! I'm gay! You here that everyone?
I'm gay! And it... and it... and it feels good!
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Snot Hannity Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:10 PM
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45. Once in a while
I may suck.

But I am no sucker, I am tellin ya.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 05:13 PM
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46. Just so we're all clear....
1. There was a misunderstanding.
2. Sen. Craig did nothing wrong because he's not gay.
3. He plead guilty to a lesser charge because of some bizarre elaborate plot contrived by the Idaho Statesman
4. He's not gay
5. He apologizes for his lapse in judgement for doing nothing wrong.
6. The cops must be out to get him because he isn't gay.
7. He's never been gay.
8. He's never going to be gay.
9. He wasn't gay on that day he solicited an undercover male police officer for anonymous bathroom sex.
10. He was persecuted for eight months before that for not being gay.

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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:42 PM
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47. Plus the FBI reported 25 years ago that he was not gay.
And he has the report to prove it.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:17 PM
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48. LOL!
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