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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:22 PM
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On Katrina in '07...
I've been thinking a lot lately on New Orleans.

Though I'm just up the road, I haven't been back since Katrina, mostly because I'm scared. I don't want to ruin my memories of it. I don't want to taint what was.

I've also been considering the illustration given, that the Crescent City's days are numbered. Thanks to its location and the vagaries of human encroachment, the city seems destined to slip beneath the waves of the Gulf. We've blazed that trail ourselves.

But no matter what arises to supplant it, a likely port town on the continental shelf upriver, it will never be what New Orleans once was. A storied and unique place, like the near-mythical cities of Western Civilization. Athens. Rome. Paris. Venice. New Orleans.

Sadly, one thing revealed in the wake of the storm has been the differing reactions revealing social chasms. Along the central Gulf Coast, you get two general responses, reactions that ashamedly fall mostly along racial and socio-economic lines.

Many are quick to blame the people of New Orleans. “Why didn’t they leave? It’s their own fault for being in the way.” That one is the funniest as I’ve heard it coming from others along the Gulf Coast, those in Mississippi, Alabama and Florida who have expensive houses perched where the sea meets the land. I guess if you can afford a big enough house to put in harm’s way, it suddenly assuages you of responsibility.

“Everything that went on there is a product of the welfare state. Why are these people looking for a handout?” What happened in New Orleans could happen anywhere there is sufficient population density, urban areas that allow people to get by without personal transportation.

“Look at the good, hard-working people of Mississippi. They’re not complaining, they’re just rolling up their sleeves and getting to work.” Sure, they’re getting to work on projects aided by federal money hastened along by a governor politically connected to the upper echelon of the Republican Party.

Are there still square miles of ruined neighborhoods in Mississippi? Sure are. Are there people in the Magnolia State left to flounder by insurance companies? Yep. We don’t hear about it as much as those in Louisiana because, well frankly, to the rest of the world, the Mississippi Gulf Coast isn’t as valued as New Orleans. It may not seem fair to some, but that’s just the essence of it. What the Crescent City has passed on to the world have been magnanimous gifts hard to measure and unequaled by many places in our nation.

Yes, those in the Magnolia State suffered. Yes, they deserve our sympathy and help. But no more or less than anyone else affected by the storm.

Toward those who opted to return to these neighborhoods as endangered as those in the Crescent City’s Ninth Ward, one scarcely hears derision for them. You hear the lofty language and admiration reserved for plucky pioneers, but no cries of condemnation orbiting future calamity.

However, as I wholeheartedly know now, the Gulf Coast without New Orleans is without its most redeeming feature. Just endless heat and humidity without the inexhaustible love for adventuresome cuisine, art and entertainment that made the Crescent City the cultural center it was.

This recollection of course stirs musings on transgressions. Not just personal or pleasurable but also administrative.

I feel the single greatest sin of the Bush Presidency has been the Katrina fiasco. FEMA had every warning in the world as to what would unfold in those days surrounding Katrina’s visit.

The Times-Picayune laid out a scenario in 2002 that described in detail exactly what transpired three years later.

In 2004, a hurricane simulation exercise was run by LSU, local and state officials that once again spelled out the eventual scenario.

Days before the levees breached, meteorologists and other specialists briefed the White House via live link and told what was to come.

Still, Bush and crew wanted to act as if they were caught with their pants down. They still maintain this position.

This leaves two choices, neither of which is palatable.

First, the Bush Administration was indeed caught by surprise. It would certainly explain the incredible discrepancy between the efficient and swift response orchestrated by federal forces in the wake of the four hurricanes that strafed Florida in 2004 and the absence of action in Katrina's wake.

If that's the case, then Bush and pals don't deserve to be in any position of authority because they're the biggest bunch of dolts who ever held office. There's little excuse for that kind of obliviousness other than sheer idiocy.

However, if that scenario isn’t true then the other choice is far worse. Because other than stupidity, the only other reason is lack of concern.

But why wouldn't they care? Well, given what we've seen in the Bush era, most particularly in the last two years, indicators would be that they saw the incident only in political terms. New Orleans is a Democratic stronghold in an overwhelmingly Republican region.

So which is it? They were warned. Did they not comprehend it or just ignore it? You can’t have it both ways. Take your pick.

If it's the first, they should be ridden from office in tar and feathers.

If it's the second, they should get the Il Duce treatment, public spectacle of shame, ridicule and far, far worse.

Had Katrina occurred in 2004, would Bush have lost re-election? From what I’ve seen since, it’s no guarantee. It would have been a big question mark.

And that in itself is a travesty that reflects poorly on our nation’s soul and future.
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 06:43 PM
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1. Thanks for that.
There's so little information coming out of the area. I find myself (far away) wondering what it looks like today. I'll bet that lots of it looks pretty much as it did after the storm. That itself should be damning to the government.

I read this weekend about a man who was displaced to Houston. He said that he'd never go back to LA, not because his home was destroyed, but because his community was gone. People didn't come back. He said that the cost of living (not just rebuilding) was just far too high for him to consider it.

I've never understood how it could have happened the way it did. I watched that night as the news tracked the storm roaring through the Gulf. I sat and watched it come in and, oh God, it was going to be bad. My husband kept telling me that I should come to bed, that there was nothing I could do. Of course, he was right, but I was just so horrified. If I, sitting in my Seattle apartment, knew then that i was going to be terrible, how could the federal government not know? The next day, here was Bush, travelling around and hamming it up, playing political games while Americans begged for help. American citizens, losing all they'd ever had, stranded on rooftops, face down in the water.

I just can't understand it.

I've never been to LA or MS; I probably never will. But it haunts me.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:21 PM
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2. k&r
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:23 PM
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3. Wouldn't shoring the wetlands back up help the city survive into the future?
That's what I keep hearing - I'd love to hear a "local's" take on that POV. I'd be up for doing anything necessary!
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:35 PM
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5. That's a big problem...
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 07:35 PM by misanthrope
...How do you let the wetlands go back to the cycle that built lower Louisiana without destroying the inhabitated portions? I don't know that it can be done, myself.

The wetlands are replenished by the voluminous tons of silt that come down the Mississippi River. When the river meanders and floods, it renews the wetlands. But you can't let the river take that uninhibited course while the communities exist in that portion of the delta as it would spell disaster for those inhabitants.

Then there's the problem of New Orleans' sinking. The city's not built on bedrock and as such it has sunk close to ten feet in altitude since its founding. That will only continue at the rate of a foot every 30 years. Factor in rising sea levels from global warming and you have a big, big problem.

Plus, the book is still out on the eventual result of the natural gas extraction operations which dot that area of the map. It's believed by many the loss of the gas will hasten the sinking of the land.

New Orleans was founded at its location not for engineering reasons, but because of proximity to the Gulf via Lake Pontchartrain. Given enough time, Baton Rouge would become the port that New Orleans is now.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:48 PM
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8. But what about all the comparisons to the Netherlands?
The land of real levies? We seem to have the engineering tech to manage the water. What we don't have is a government that gives a damn.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 10:56 PM
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16. I don't know anything about the geography of the Netherlands...
...but without the Mississippi River being allowed free reign in southeast Louisiana, those wetlands will eventually disappear.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:25 PM
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4. K&R
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:42 PM
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6. Heard on the news on the way home
That of the $5 billion in reconstruction money that went to Mississippi, only $1 billion of it made it to the poor people. And Barbour is saying that like it's a good thing. I hope they throw that pig out of office at the next opportunity!
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:43 PM
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7. How much went to the friggin' casinos?**nm
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:49 PM
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9. Don't the casinos mean jobs for a lot of people? n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:04 PM
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11. Jobs?
You need to have a place to live too.

Affordable housing is non existent.

The cost of rebuilding keeps going up, the skilled laborers (sheet rock, flooring, plumbing, electricians) are hard to come by.

Engineers and surveyors have a back log of work and it can take up to 6 weeks to get the survey/engineering reports that are required to rebuild.

Permitting offices are inundated with work and it can takes weeks or months to get the necessary permitting.

And the poor and low/moderate income folks are being squeezed out.

Insurance rates are ungodly.

And the casinos and some of the other corporations that need the low income work force are bringing in folks Jamica and Korea, putting them up in "company" housing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:11 PM
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12. It's unbelievable or would be if this were September 2001.
Even before then, the Bush Mafia was dismantling this society.

:grr:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 07:55 PM
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10. Who the hell have you been talking to on the Gulf Coast
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 07:56 PM by merh
with the big houses blaming New Orleans for her struggles?

Not a person I know on the Mississippi Gulf Coast blames NOLA.

We get a little ticked off that folks think that only NOLA suffered at Katrina's hands and is still suffering.

The folks on the Mississippi Gulf Coast that lost as much if not more than those in NOLA know that warnings mean shit to those in the hurricane's path.

You can get out of the way, but when you come back to what you knew as home and you find nothing, well, it still is difficult to get on, difficult to recovery and rebuild your life.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:13 PM
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13. We now know exactly how compromised our media is
because there is just about zero coverage of what is happening on/to the Gulf Coast.

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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:00 PM
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17. I live in Mobile...
...where I've heard plenty of that sentiment expressed.

I've also heard mildly reserved pleasure at the outcome of Katrina and how it has been a huge boon for Mobile.

I find it all sickening.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 11:24 PM
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18. Oh, well that does explain it
Mobile corporations are setting up offices here on the MS Gulf Coast and making that money that the survivors are having a hard time seeing or stretching to use to rebuild. We on the MS Gulf Coast know that there can be no blame placed on the residents, even if everyone evacuated, you would still be forced to come home to destruction.

I agree, if that is what you hear, then that is sickening.

Mobile has always been what I considered a caste system city. There has always been a divide - Spring Hill Country Club being the gathering place for the "haves" as the "have nots" wait on them.

And Mobile would be better off thinking "but for the grace of god" because if that 30 foot surge hit your city, they would be just as bad off as NOLA.

Thanks for caring. :hi:



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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 01:29 AM
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19. Friend, let me tell ya'...
...your summation of this town is spot on. It is definitely an Old South type of place and the feudal aspects that accompany such are still regretfully present. You could write a lengthy tome on the socio-economics of this area.

If Katrina's eye had hit 30 miles further east, Mobile would have been in a world of hurt. If it had hit the MS/AL state line, we wouldn't be here right now.

However, after the storm, I saw and heard all kind of folks quick to puff their chests out and quickly proclaim Mobile's accelerated importance. Many times I heard, "We're the biggest city on the Gulf Coast now," as if Tampa had suddenly dropped off the map to boot. I saw several articles about the benefits and good times Mobile was about to receive in a post-Katrina reality.

Nature has a way of humbling all, though.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-29-07 07:09 AM
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20. Karma can be a bitch.
And Mobile is a vulnerable as any coastal town to the wrath of nature.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:14 PM
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14. Proud to put this on Greatest
Excellent.

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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:51 PM
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15. And we can never ever forget this:
White House Knew of Levee's Failure on Night of Storm
By Eric Lipton
The New York Times

Friday 10 February 2006

Washington - In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Bush administration officials said they had been caught by surprise when they were told on Tuesday, Aug. 30, that a levee had broken, allowing floodwaters to engulf New Orleans.

But Congressional investigators have now learned that an eyewitness account of the flooding from a federal emergency official reached the Homeland Security Department's headquarters starting at 9:27 p.m. the day before, and the White House itself at midnight.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency official, Marty Bahamonde, first heard of a major levee breach Monday morning. By late Monday afternoon, Mr. Bahamonde had hitched a ride on a Coast Guard helicopter over the breach at the 17th Street Canal to confirm the extensive flooding. He then telephoned his report to FEMA headquarters in Washington, which notified the Homeland Security Department.

"FYI from FEMA," said an e-mail message from the agency's public affairs staff describing the helicopter flight, sent Monday night at 9:27 to the chief of staff of Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff and recently unearthed by investigators. Conditions, the message said, "are far more serious than media reports are currently reflecting. Finding extensive flooding and more stranded people than they had thought - also a number of fires."

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/47/17603
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