MYSTERY POSTER "DEEP MODEM" STRIKES YET AGAIN

[redacted]

32 C.F.R. PART 2800—SECURITY PROCEDURES

"All personnel of the Office of the Vice President are responsible individually for complying with the provisions of these regulations are in all respects. The provisions of these regulations applicable to all personnel assigned or detailed to the Office of the Vice President."

The Vice President is a "person" for purposes of 32 CFR 2800 enforcement. He shall comply with the CFR, which is the governing requirement; and shall be audited per Statement on Accounting Standard 74, to ensure compliance with the 32 CFR requirements applicable to the Vice President, OVP staff, and all OVP legal counsel.

# When did AG learn OVP was not complying with the 32 CFR 2800?

A plain reading of the Code of Federal Regulations puts the OVP, Vice President, and OVP legal counsel on the wrong side of the law. DOJ AG, DOJ OPR, and other legal counsel affiliated with the DC Bar need to decide whether you want to maintain public confidence in your legal profession; or whether you require outside supervision, as is required with law enforcement, to publicly oversee and monitor what appears to be an increasingly reckless, out of control, and unresponsive legal profession.

Why, despite clearly promulgated 32 CFR 2800 requirements on OVP for security issues, is the Department of Justice not swiftly moving to ensure the facts related to the obstruction of the auditors has been known, understood, and forwarded to the US Atty for prosecution;

Why hasn't this information been provided by DOJ OPR and DOJ Staff to the Grand Jury for their review?

OPR investigation was going to examine how two senior DOJ lawyers had repeatedly warned Gonzales that the NSA program was not legal. After meeting with Gonzales to discuss the matter, Bush, in a highly unusual move, blocked the security clearances that OPR investigators needed to conduct the internal probe. It remains unknown whether Bush knew at the time he denied the security clearances that Gonzales was going to be a focus of the OPR probe or whether Gonzales concealed the fact that he would be under investigation but worked to convince Bush to shut down the probe anyway.

"The severity of this situation cannot be overstated. This article makes it clear that Attorney General Gonzales acted to save himself from an internal Justice Department investigation by having President Bush shut it down," Hinchey said. "We are talking about some very serious ethical and quite possibly criminal violations committed by Attorney General Gonzales and maybe President Bush if he was aware of OPR's intentions when he blocked that investigation. This country cannot tolerate anyone, let alone its top law enforcement official, operating above the law. Attorney General Gonzales and President Bush must step forward and explain their actions here."

The USDOJ OPR answers to AG Gonzales. Even if he has recused himself in this matter, internal investigators aren't going to sacrifice their careers ( because there are always pay-backs ) by going after the boss or the President. Look what they have done in the past.

American needs to be screaming for a special prosecutor! The only thing which will inspire any attention in the DOJ Staff counsel, White House political office, VP, EOP, or the President's office is one thing: The prospect of jail time without possibility of pardon.

Posted by:
Date: August 28, 2007 12:24 PM

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/004012.php#comments

[malaise]

1. K & R

for transparency.

[Fridays Child]

2. Second that.

[redacted]

3. FOR THOSE WHO MISSED YESTERDAY'S EXCITEMENT:

"Now that the Justice department is finished with it's house cleaning, The rest of the deal Bush made to spare himself impeachment will begin. The Cheney resignation will be forth coming within the time frame I estimated last week. There are three weeks left on that clock. If you look through obscure posts from three weeks ago until last week, you will see my original predictions about Rove (perfectly timed) and Gonzales (also one week prior as stated) Deny my accuracy and attribute it to coincedence or guessing if you like, but within three weeks from this day the dark one falls. The deal has been made and the substance of it is out. I am not a mystic and do not own a crystal ball. I do however own many devices that are able to communicate messages through the air. These have been put to great use.. Cheney is next, and you heard it here first. AS I STATED WITH MY OTHER POSTS MARK THIS ONE! Do not talk of it, Just mark it! It will be a great remebrance!"

[NMDemDist2]

6. link? who said that? Deep Modem?

be still, my racing heart.....

[redacted]

7. See the top of the same linked page at TPM.

[redacted]

8. EXAMPLE of an "obscure post from three weeks ago"

"These gentleman will go down one by one.

Rove is not the biggest fish.

Things from anothers past will soon be brought to light and the retribution will be silent but swift.

Deals are being made as we speak.

As I told you all a mere days ago, Rove is finished.

Next it will be Cheney.

Mark this post. It is not a prediction, it is a garantee.

Cheney will not serve out his term."

Posted by:
Date: August 14, 2007 7:46 PM

http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/003915.php

(lines separated for clarity)

[The Witch]

12. Doesn't sound like Deep Modem predicted Gonzo being gone

He said "next will be cheney" but it wasn't

Just a healthy dose of skepticism - because I'd love to believe in this guy as much as anyone else....

[NashVegas]

13. "Silent But Swift"

Look how fast Gonzo came off of the #1 headline.

[Ghost in the Machine]

19. He was talking about Gonzo's resignation, mentioned that he had already

predicted Rove, which came true.... had already predicted Gonzo's, which he was commenting on now.... and said to watch for Cheney within 3 more weeks.

Just a friendly reminder: People should follow links and read the whole story before making comments... you know, so you don't look dumb and/or ill informed. Read again:

"Now that the Justice department is finished with it's house cleaning, The rest of the deal Bush made to spare himself impeachment will begin. The Cheney resignation will be forth coming within the time frame I estimated last week. There are three weeks left on that clock. If you look through obscure posts from three weeks ago until last week, you will see my original predictions about Rove (perfectly timed) and Gonzales (also one week prior as stated) Deny my accuracy and attribute it to coincedence or guessing if you like, but within three weeks from this day the dark one falls. The deal has been made and the substance of it is out. I am not a mystic and do not own a crystal ball. I do however own many devices that are able to communicate messages through the air. These have been put to great use.. Cheney is next, and you heard it here first. AS I STATED WITH MY OTHER POSTS MARK THIS ONE! Do not talk of it, Just mark it! It will be a great remebrance!"

Just sayin'....

[redacted]

20. Thank you Ghost

[Ghost in the Machine]

22. Quite welcome! I've been guilty in the past of making comments on just

what was posted, or even just the thread title. Sometimes the title, or even the entire post, is just a snippet to catch your attention and make you want to follow the link to read the WHOLE story. And yes, *I* felt dumb and ill informed.

[rhett o rick]

32. Please: "Grow your own dope, adopt a republican." F**** the birth shit. nm

[The Witch]

81. Thanks for the reminder, but I was referring to the post directly upthread of me

I was *not* referring to the OP. At the Rove resignation thread three weeks ago, acc. to the upthread post, DM said "There goes Rove, next will be Cheney." But *next* was Gonzo, not Cheney. So I was pointing out that his prediction *at the time of Rove's resignation* was that Cheney was next. And Cheney wasn't next.

That's all I was saying. Not "this guy's a fake," not "U L00ZERZ STFU U SUCK," just that three weeks ago he said cheney was next and that didn't quite come to pass as predicted.

I appreciate the reminder and if I am STILL misinterpreting this then I will gladly accept the label of "dumb and/or ill informed." Hell, I'll accept it anyway, just for fun. :dunce:

[Ghost in the Machine]

83. Just for the sake of posterity, let me clarify that I was NOT calling *you*

dumb and or ill informed, just that people could *look* that way, which I have done myself in the past. I've posted or reacted from a little tidbit, without reading or knowing the whole story, and made myself look like a total ass. I'm far from dumb, but made myself *look* dumb.

Hell, I could be doing that right here on this very post..

PEACE!

Ghost

[The Witch]

86. :grin: cool beans :-)

But really, I am dumb and ill-informed. :dunce:

[progressoid]

47. So... that's just 6 days from now.

Hmmm...mark the calendar.

[shanti]

61. labor day

hmmmm

[L. Coyote]

112. This looney "glass ball" post is definitely not the same as the Deep Modem.

I notice someone propagated this "psychic" claim across the web, with links back here, so I'll help straighten this out.

Or, you can jump ahead to the end of the research here:
"Mystery Poster" DEEP MODEM Demystified. SOURCE Found at CREW
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=389&topic_id=1684981&mesg_id=1685263

Apparently, a troll at TPM is trying to imitate Deep Modem, and not very well at that.
In fact, until a timeline analysis is conducted, I suspect that all the so-called Deep Modem
"mystery posts" are pasted from the CREW site, where the complete body of the "Anonymous Lawyer" comments is found.
All those posts are linked from the above linked DU thread.

Someone is yanking our chains!! And spreading that yank widely in other fora.
For those arriving here from those links, click the link above to go to the end of the mystery.

[Crabby Appleton]

10. Nonsence, cheney will not resign

[rhett o rick]

33. What does Las Vegas say?? nm

[malaise]

11. I had a dream the other night that Cheney croaked

It was a good dream :D

[Horseradish]

14. COOL

Did he suffer? :mad:

[malaise]

15. Don't know

It was 'breaking news' but a girl can hope. :D

[Horseradish]

17. Well, if it doesn't happen soon in reality ...

You and I could get disappeared for even having this conversation based on a dream.

---btw, my cat just accidentally wrote that walking across my keyboard---

[puebloknot]

31. Not enough, if at all! nt

[Felinity]

57. What would that matter?

Meeting the recompense of his karma face to face would be far, far worse than any physical suffering here. I don't think we'll be seeing Darth back here for a very long time.

[dmr]

67. I'd like to see Darth lose his fortune

and any Lynn and the daughters made as well.

And, of course, everyone who made their fortunes off the blood and sacrifice off of each American and innocent Iraqi.

May their legal bills bankrupt their pre-Coup 2000 fortunes.

[wordpix]

73. may he be forced to return his revolving door profiteering gains to the Treasury

[Ghost in the Machine]

24. I bet it *was* a good dream! That rozclot needs to go!

Events of the past 2 weeks have given me a little bit of renewed for the future, I'll say that much. Rove and Gonzo are GONE!!

Hope Lives!

[puebloknot]

30. I had a dream a year ago that a voice was saying on television ...

..."George Bush is resigning. It's being announced now." It had that same feeling as when the separation of Charles and Diana was "being announced now" in Parliament.

We can dream, can't we?

I've had precognitive dreams that came true. It's hard to know which dreams might be predictive, and which are a neuronal rehashing of the day's ardent wishes! :)

[rhett o rick]

34. What a terrible thing to say or dream. I dream of him renditioned to a Syrian prision. nm

[bdamomma]

54. was Oscar the cat in your dream!!

[Virginia Dare]

77. He'll croak like Ken Lay I predict..

when the wolf starts breaking the door down on him. Cheney will be found "dead" of a sudden massive heart attack. It will happen in Wyoming or Texas or someplace similar, like the "shooting" incident.

[lonestarnot]

16. Cool.

[L. Coyote]

23. I know with certainty that this was not the same author as the OP post.

And, anyone can read these posts and confirm that, even if they do not know one of the posters.

[redacted]

26. How? Explain please? What's your reasoning?

[L. Coyote]

36. While I do not have a degree in linguistics, I do have training and experience.

And discourse analysis is not that difficult a science. Consider the first sentence:

"Now that the Justice department is finished with it's house cleaning, The rest of the deal Bush made to spare himself impeachment will begin."

This writer is not very intelligent, for one thing, and apparently does not have a very advanced education either. Comparatively, Anonymous Lawyer writes like a legal scholar.

This writer jumps directly into linked falsehoods. It is an obvious fabrication that would have us believe the DoJ has been house cleaned.
What a CROCK. Like Gonzales resigning is all the reform needed now!

Then, "the deal Bush made" is simply an attempt to drive a wedge between DEMS in office and their base.
That's the current worm focus around here, because that's all they have left these days.

"The Cheney resignation will be forth coming within the time frame I estimated last week."
Someone PLEASE hire this scoundrel an English tutor, or tell them about Community Colleges!

Need I go on? One of these writers has the IQ of a George Bush, so he/she must be a Republican. :rofl:

[redacted]

39. Okay, so you don't know anything "with certainty." You can't prove a thing.

Just because one post may have been written more quickly and more informally than another doesn't necessarily mean they're two different authors at all.

And outside of the passive voice, I don't see what's wrong with the writing quality in paragraphs 2 and 7.

But there's a much more significant issue here. And I've said this a couple of times before. Precious time and resources spent on third party data capture may be much more productive than wasting that time and those resources trying to figure out precisely the identity or identities of those involved, especially since these posts are starting to appear more like a group effort with each new discovery.

The MP has already told us that many have been involved in this process for a long time using highly secure channels, and that their work is directly on track to meet up with the public's research.

Let me also suggest that the very instant that someone posts an accurate guess as to the identity or identities of those involved in this "secret team," all the mystery postings may immediately end. I don't anyone's interests in preserving the Constitution would be served by that.

I don't see how your quibbles about who might be posting are helpful at this point. Assume it's probably a group effort, assume there will be differences, and move on to putting the help that these posts offer to good use.

[L. Coyote]

41. U: "I don't see how your quibbles about who might be posting are helpful at this point."

They are not helpful to those trying to imposter the Anonymous Lawyer, or ride his coat tails by attributing Dem bashing puke to DM.

[redacted]

43. What in that post counts as "Dem bashing?" Are you reading the same text I'm reading?

I've read that text over several times. I think you're reading meanings into those words that were not intended.

I have pretty good "Dem-bashing detectors" myself, and I don't see that interpretation necessarily matching those words.

[L. Coyote]

44. I'm referring to other posts attributed to DM, not this OP

[Prophet 451]

74. But

There IS a distinct difference in writing style between the earlier posts and this one, enough of a shift to make me suspicious that it's someone else posting. I may be wrong of course and I'm not going to speculate on who's responsible because frankly, I don't want to know. Just, be aware that this one may not be on the up-and-up.

[conscious evolution]

90. I have to agree

I am beginning to think their is three or four differant people posting this stuff.
One is real.
The others are trying to confuse the issues.
And I can't figue out which is which.:banghead:

[AntiFascist]

87. Deal or no deal...

we should press ahead with impeachment and investigation even if it only results in resignations. Fans of Deep Modem or whoever is posting all this should not be lulled into thinking there is some sort of deal.

[L. Coyote]

94. Contradiction. Anonymous Lawyer says, "American needs to be screaming for a special prosecutor!"

"American needs to be screaming for a special prosecutor! There doesn't appear to be much justice left in the Justice Department."
http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28616#comment-5990

The question is "Who is up to the dirty tricks?" It is obviously a DEM basher, but who is promulgating it?

[The Backlash Cometh]

105. Or...

he's intelligent enough to disguise his writing style.

[L. Coyote]

109. OR, he is the "Ranting Poster" identified in the new spin off thread. Mystery solved.

"Mystery Poster" DEEP MODEM Demystified. SOURCE Found at CREW
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1692772&mesg_id=1692772

[Truth2Tell]

45. tone of voice

does not match DM, IMHO. A nice try, but no cigar here.

edit to add: DM post quoted in the OP seems legit.

[L. Coyote]

46. Indeed. More political dirty tricks, in my view, adding to doubts about DM claims.

We need to be very careful about what is attributed to whom.

[Truth2Tell]

48. could be dirty tricks

or simply others who want their points of view to garner more attention.

Either way, not MP.

Maybe someone should tip him off to the growing confusion and suggest that he adopt a username?

[L. Coyote]

62. Anyone can also employ another person's username on those fora. No login

with a password.

[Joe Chi Minh]

72. Right or wrong, you sound too pedantic and lacking in common sense.

As redacted pointed out to you, typographical errors are commonplace in the cybersphere, and some of the most brilliant people communicate in the vernacular in an formal context, often peppering what they have to say with expletives for that matter. We shall see.

If it comes to nought, he's there to be shot at, and it's not necessarily the case that the disappointment would more than cancel out the good cheer he spread. However, if you were a troll, you'd probably have partially achieved your naysaying objective, if he/she does prove to be on the mark. If you were a troll, it would be win-win for you. Pardon us if we favour giving credence to the more optimistic prognosis.

[L. Coyote]

80. If you say so. n/t

[SpiralHawk]

55. "The Dark One Falls"

[mzmolly]

71. Holy F-n crap. Wouldn't that be GRAND!?

:toast:

[southern_belle]

4. kick

[truedelphi]

5. Wouldn't it be great fun if it turned out that

Deep Modem was NOT some office holding guy working as an official inside the Bush Administration but instead a janitor or security guard with some type of listenening device (they are now selling "Hearing Aid" devices that look like a small transistor radio and that catch the conversations of people forty to sixty feet away. Devices cost about $ 14.95))

probabkly not likely - but it would be a hoot if after all the President's hoopla about the need to do surveillance, he was outed by someone with minimal surveillance equipment.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

9. Heh heh heh..... surveillance is cool when used on the right

people. I'm gonna miss the vice prez. Not.

[lonestarnot]

18. Yes, give the bitches a taste of their own medicine!

:toast:

[femrap]

21. Why the fuck aren't

we screaming for a Special Prosecutor?

Someone remind me, OK?

[L. Coyote]

25. DEEP MODEM: Who is the "Anonymous Lawyer" and who is the "Anonymous Imposter" ??

This thread focuses on knowing who is posting what.

DEEP MODEM: Who is the "Anonymous Lawyer" and who is the "Anonymous Imposter" ??
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1675103

Houston, we have a problem. There is an Imposter on board! Or maybe an Im-paster!! :rofl:

More there ....

[Truth2Tell]

49. Very interesting

I had missed that thread, but was feeling the same myself.

[conscious evolution]

27. Statement on Accounting Standard 74,

Anyone know what this is?

[PRETZEL]

58. SAS 74

I just went back and did a quick AICPA reference check,

http://gaqc.aicpa.org/Resources/OMB+Circular+A-133/Primary+Sources+of+Single+Audit+Guidance/

SAS it the Statement on Auditing Standards. This statement governs how organizations that fall under the A-133 Audits of State and Local governments and Non-Profit organizations. A-133 is the prevailing circular of virtually all organizations that receive federal monies under the Catalog of Federal Domestic Assistance.

Note, the mistake in this original post (calling it the Statement on Accounting Standards as opposed to a Statement on Auditing Standards) is pretty significant in my opinion. This person is definately not an accountant or auditor type. They should know the difference.

[AikidoSoul]

64. technically there is no difference in the terms.

Either of these terms could easily be used correctly

[PRETZEL]

65. I wasn't taught that way

maybe that's why I see it differently.

[L. Coyote]

28. NEW Mystery Poster on CREW = "Anonymous" +++ Deep Modem's Mother Lode?

This thread has about FIFTY posts by the "Anonymous Lawyer" on the CREW discussion board.

NEW Mystery Poster on CREW = "Anonymous" +++ Deep Modem's Mother Lode?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1669387&mesg_id=1669387

Your "Deep Modem" obviously copied from these posts and pastes them on TPM.
Like I posted before, we need a timeline of when what text appears where.

[redacted]

42. Frankly, I find your remarks rather insulting. Stop patronizing us.

Jesus, Coyote, you're so friggin' full of yourself tonight I can't take it.

How about supporting a few of your remarks once in awhile? Why don't you show us all some examples of where it's "obvious" that whoever I'm citing "copied from these posts and pastes them on TPM."

I think we are all very grateful for your hard work and dedication on this topic. But your appointing yourself an expert, and insulting others who are simply trying to draw more attention to this effort and keep other DUers' awareness up to date, is not going to win you friends around DU and it's not going to get anybody to cooperate with you as part of a team effort.

Finally, he's not MY "Deep Modem." Knock it off. Drop the sarcastic attitude.

[TBUSA]

56. Why is the message being redirected.

I feel the same way about lcoyote. I posted something about following DM's directions to find a SharePoint site related the IP addresses on WikePedia. Lcoyote deflected the conversation to a whois DM? I felt that LC spent most of her time distracting posts on that thread.Instead of questioning the coincedence of finding a Verizon co-councils name when I followed DM's directions, the poster found alternative reasons for this lawyers updating Wikipedia entries about the EOP.
I thought it was a hell of a coincedence that the counsel (Sibley) for a telecomm company (that may be involved in illegal spying) was updating wikipedia entries about EOP...

[L. Coyote]

59. Sibley is not the telecom's law firm. Verizon has internal counsel.

An attorney at Sibley cited the Verizon suit in an article. Why do you say Sibley represented Verizon?

If you would rather go off on a tangent and not be alerted when you present a conclusion that is not supported, fine by me. But do not turn it around and say I'm the one who is distracting from the issue.

[L. Coyote]

60. Just stating the facts. Go to the thread I linked and you will see, every single word in the OP was

already online in other posts by "Anonymous Lawyer" on Crew.

See for yourself where the posts occur first, if you wish.
While there are more Anonymous Lawyer postings on CREW,
I did provide the complete text of these on the linked thread:

11 April 2007 - 7:06pm
11 June 2007 7:26pm
12 July 2007 1:43pm
13 June 2007 7:36pm
14 July 2007 4:33pm
19 June 2007 7:42pm
2 July 2007 1:10pm
2 July 2007 2:35pm
2 July 2007 4:47pm
2 June 2007 7:27pm
2 June 2007 9:53pm
20 June 2007 5:37pm
21 Aug 2007 3:23pm
23 June 2007 4:35pm
23 June 2007 8:18pm
24 June 2007 5:18pm
25 June 2007 12:30pm
25 June 2007 2:56pm
25 June 2007 3:53pm
25 June 2007 6:11pm
25 June 2007 6:35pm
25 June 2007 6:55pm
26 June 2007 12:28pm
26 June 2007 3:37pm
26 June 2007 4:56pm
27 June 2007 3:59pm
27 Sept 2006 2:55pm
3 July 2007 1:35pm
3 July 2007 12:53pm
3 July 2007 2:59am
3 July 2007 3:23pm
3 July 2007 3:31pm
30 June 2007 8:11pm
31 May 2007 1:39am
31 May 2007 1:43am
31 May 2007 1:52am
31 May 2007 7:03pm
4 June 2007 6:16pm
8 July 2007 6:59pm
9 June 2007 4:08pm

[bdamomma]

29. kick and recommended.

[rhett o rick]

35. If HRC was smart, and I'm not saying she isn't, she should start demanding Cheney's

resignation. Then if he does resign, she can take the credit.

[cui bono]

52. Except that if she demands it, there's no way in hell he would do it. eom

[rhett o rick]

53. More the better. It's time someone started to put stumbling blocks in front of

these madmen. My tactic is simple, prevent them from doing whatever they want to do. If they want Cheney to resign then try to prevent it because it has to be bad for us.

[defendandprotect]

37. Well, I presume Cheney might argue he's not "personnel" . . .. but here we are so far along . ...

and not even a special prosecutor appointed -- !!!
I think, in fact, the legislation has to be reinacted -- renewed????

Of course -- we should be at least six months along on the road to impeachment --

Are Pelosi and Reid off in space somewhere -- or are they still on this planet????

[Truth2Tell]

50. not "personnel"

Reptile? :shrug:

[bananarepublican]

51. His pacemaker makes him a bionic-nel! n/t

[Truth2Tell]

69. I have an image in my head of the cops coming to haul him off

and he jumps, in slow motion, up onto the roof, with the bionic man soundtrack running. He then turns and lets out a long wicked cackle, and sprints off into the night, never to be seen again. For generations children will cower as they tell ghost stories at night of the evil Cheney, and ranchers will report brief glimpses in the vicinity of mysteriously gorged cattle.

[bananarepublican]

111. ... and piles and piles of of blasted little farm raised birds! n/t

[democrat2thecore]

38. Is this link (in post) really DEEP MODEM's Blog?

The writing is almost identical. Daily Kos says it's his abandoned blog.
Anybody have ideas? Thoughts?
http://constantpated.blogspot.com/

[L. Coyote]

40. That was concluded before the CREW posts were noted.

Now that I found the CREW forum "Anonymous Lawyer" posts, I suspect this blogger was reading CREW.

I did web-wide searching for keywords. That led to the CREW material. There may be more out there.

Again, a timeline of the writings is needed, and this blog should be included.

[TBUSA]

63. Let's help DM instead of exposing him/her.

Apparently DM wants to be unknown. What is the point in expending energy in outing this person? Let's not distract from his/her message. He/she asks for help. Let's do our part and support their effort.
What would you gain by outing this person? Why would you think DU would help intimidate this patriot?

[L. Coyote]

68. Indeed. Thanks for repeating that message. And let's not assume everyone

who posts without using a name is the "Anonymous Lawyer" (AL) or "Deep Modem (DM)"

One way we can support AL's line of research is by not associating the
views in "Anonymous Imposter" posts as the legal opinions of the AL.

[The Witch]

88. hmmm

EDITED to remove potentially identifying information. I will however say that if this person has evidence and could be identified, I could get this person in touch with media sources who could treat him/her with respect and anoymity.

[L. Coyote]

66. The OP material was quoted before on DU from the CREW website. Here are the links:

Source of "Mystery Posts" found on CREW. Is this Deep Modem's Mother Lode?

The original post in this thread includes parts of several "Anonymous Lawyer" posts, perhaps copied and pasted from DU.
I provide one below. I found another forty "Anonymous Lawyer" posts at CREW in a few hours, and compiled them on DU here:
NEW Mystery Poster on CREW = "Anonymous" +++ Deep Modem's Mother Lode?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1669387&mesg_id=1669387

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FROM: http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29175

Gonzales has not investigated Cheney over ignoring classified info. order -- despite a complaint last January
Submitted by crew on 25 June 2007 - 8:56am.

Newsweek's Michael Isikoff reports that, despite a request from the official in charge of Information Security Oversight at the National Archives, the Attorney General has never addressed Dick Cheney's failure to comply with the executive order on classified information. A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request for info. on this issue was denied on the ground there were "no documents" on this matter. There is something gravely wrong with this whole situation. Dick Cheney is not a fourth branch of government, but he's sure acting like one:

Cheney's hard-line chief of staff, David Addington, has made the novel argument that the veep doesn't have to comply on the ground that, because the vice president also serves as president of the Senate, his office is not really part of the executive branch.

Cheney's position so frustrated J. William Leonard, the chief of the Archives' Information Security Oversight Office, which enforces the order, that he complained in January to Gonzales. In a letter, Leonard wrote that Cheney's position was inconsistent with the "plain text reading" of the executive order and asked the attorney general for an official ruling. But Gonzales never responded, thereby permitting Cheney to continue blocking Leonard from conducting even a routine inspection of how the veep's office was handling classified documents, according to correspondence released by House Government Reform Committee chair Rep. Henry Waxman.

Why didn't Gonzales act on Leonard's request? His aides assured reporters that Leonard's letter has been "under review" for the past five months—by Justice's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC). But on June 4, an OLC lawyer denied a Freedom of Information Act request about the Cheney dispute asserting that OLC had "no documents" on the matter, according to a copy of the letter obtained by NEWSWEEK. Steve Aftergood, the Federation of American Scientists researcher who filed the request, said he found the denial letter "puzzling and inexplicable"—especially since Leonard had copied OLC chief Steve Bradbury on his original letter to Gonzales. The FOIA response has piqued the interest of congressional investigators, who note Bradbury is the same official in charge of vetting all document requests from Congress about the U.S. attorneys flap. Asked about the apparent discrepancy, Justice spokesman Brian Roehrkasse said the OLC response "was and remains accurate" because Leonard's letter had generated no "substantive work product."

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COMMENTS:

http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29175#comment-6707

CFR Shows OVP Legal Counsel OK's Illegalities
Submitted by Anonymous on 25 June 2007 - 12:30pm.

Major problem for AG and VP Cheney in re classified information. Although the VP focuse on EOs, there's a major problem: CFR specifically addresses these requirements.

32 C.F.R. PART 2800—SECURITY PROCEDURES
http://law.justia.com/us/cfr/title32/32cfr2800_main_02.html

"All personnel of the Office of the Vice President are responsible individually for complying with the provisions of these regulations are in all respects. The provisions of these regulations applicable to all personnel assigned or detailed to the Office of the Vice President."

The Vice President is a "person" for purposes of 32 CFR 2800 enforcement. He shall comply with the CFR, which is the governing requirement; and shall be audited per Statement on Accounting Standard 74, to ensure compliance with the 32 CFR requirements applicable to the Vice President, OVP staff, and all OVP legal counsel

Recommend public read about soemthing called a compliance audit, under statement of Accounting standard 74. Review this: (Compliance Auditing Considerations in Audits of Governmental Entities) which outlines what the auditors should have done; and form a line of questions for DOJ OPR to review in re the Attorney General:

# When did AG learn OVP was not complying with the 32 CFR 2800?

# When did OVP and Potus agree to block DOJ OPR from reviewing AG "non review" of these 32 CFR 2800 violations by OVP personnel?

# When did OVP dissuade legal counsel from reporting violations of the law and requirements to DC Bar, per 1.16?

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[tiptoe]

70. Turley/Olbermann video re AG nominees and Dem senators leverage

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x50606

[peacetalksforall]

75. Is it fair to say that what is implied and kind of stated is a trade has taken place?

No impeachment of Bush for xxxxxxx?

If yes, isn't it obvious that the other party doing the trading is Congress?

Didn't Kucinich say there has been a trade and it involves Iran?

How important is it to know whether the same or a team or a counter agent is 'sharing/predicting stuff' (sometimes in legal terms and sometimes in not legal like English) to determine whether DUers and others are being played with or informed? Has anything said so far misdirected DUers and others or messed up our country or our kids?

Seems this trade could be more significant than just resignations. Tragic, in fact. To the point where it might not be right to call it a trade.

(Also, pessimistically, I don't know how anyone can say that Rove and Gonzales being gone is a win in a trade knowing what we know about how dependent the king-left-standing-in-the-ring is on them. A deal is not a deal until they are prohibited from working for the RNC, Pentagon, CEO's, and the king. They must be prohibited from performing government work by prohibiting contact - direct or by relays. Knowing the king - he may have made a deal and walked out the door and in another door and sneared and said - you will still advise me and tell me what to do, you will still make deals for those who put us here and are counting on us - you are still working, you only lost your title in the public's eye.)

[Virginia Dare]

78. Perhaps the trade was FISA and/or the war...

perhaps they agreed to give Bushie more time on the war and to try and catch terrorists in an attempt to salvage his legacy in return for Rove, Gonzo and Cheney. I've thought for a while that there is some deep intrigue going on between Cheney and Bush though.

[L. Coyote]

110. Take a closer look at the source of these rantings. Bizzarro Mundo for sure!

The poster is identified here:

"Mystery Poster" DEEP MODEM Demystified. SOURCE Found at CREW
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1692772&mesg_id=1692772

[L. Coyote]

79. NO. And "What trade?" How much do blog disruptors earn per hour $$$

One of the drawbacks of the anonymous nature of web posting is that foreign nations and certain political parties and interests can employ people to create wedges and perform other kinds of disruption.

Why would anyone believe this kind of innuendo as anything even near a fact? Because someone else who is also anmnymous says to? Not enough for me!

There is no deal, there is no trade. There is a clever Web rumor. Whoever has more evidence that that do let us know.

[peacetalksforall]

84. No trade as written about by Deep M? Or no trade as Kucinich

said?

I'm not a follower of every line written about secret revelations and who has taken what position, so I think you're calling Deep M a disruptor, not me?

Me, I'm worried about death and all the harm done to little kids and soldiers who are our kids. And I love Iranians and don't see anything they've done as deserving being blown up off the planet. They are keeping out the invaders and they don't like the western consortium idea of taking and owning their earth resources. Makes sense. We seem to think we can take anything. Doesn't make sense. Our leaders did not consult us except they may have consulted with our representatives to make a deal - that is SECRET. That's where I'm coming from. Anti-death and anti-destruction of the Constitution and anyone's infrastructure anywhere for corporate need and greed.

[L. Coyote]

85. I'll second and third and fourth that.

The disruption is being done by those posting stuff or, at the least, citing stuff and attributing it to DM.

It appears there are either imposters or just over-excited posters who attribute any post at TPM to DM.
I know that is not so, because I post at TPM w/o using the name field too. Anyone can do so, that simple.
So, it is very easy to post something there and then claim that DM says or believes X, Y, and Z.

Anyone can check the timeline below and verify if any of the posts appear on TPM before they appear on CREW!
It is possible that there is no Deep Modem, just an "Anonymous Im-paster."

[L. Coyote]

106. NEW, Source of the rumor is identified.

And, it is not Deep Modem. Explanation here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1692772

[DeeDeeNY]

76. The Vice President is a person?

Oh, only "for purposes of 32 CFR 2800 enforcement." Never mind.

[L. Coyote]

82. FOUND: Deep Modem's source. FORTY original "Anonymous Lawyer" posts at CREW with links:

FOUND: Deep Modem's source. FORTY original "Anonymous Lawyer" posts at CREW with links:

Here they are, in chronological order. I thank the other members of the Research Squad for compiling all the anonymous posts under discussion.
All I did was attach the links to the list, which made chronological sorting possible, and add a few missing posts by our "Anonymous Lawyer."
There are another dozen or so posts on CREW that I do not include yet, most that I know of being shorter and on the linked pages.

As you will see, this material represents a series of legal opinions and suggestions directed to the staff at CREW.
When reading the copied and pasted versions elsewhere on line, knowing where they come from and that context will
provide greater sense of who is addressing whom.

27 Sept 2006 2:55pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/26669#comment-10
11 April 2007 7:06pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/27374#comment-4816
31 May 2007 1:43am	http://citizensforethics.org/node/28567#comment-5967
31 May 2007 1:39am	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28576#comment-5966
31 May 2007 1:52am	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28590#comment-5968
31 May 2007 2:38am	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28590#comment-5969
31 May 2007 7:03pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28616#comment-5990
2 June 2007 7:27pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28670#comment-6056
2 June 2007 9:53pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28670#comment-6058
4 June 2007 6:16pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28670#comment-6105
9 June 2007 4:08pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28744#comment-6184
11 June 2007 7:26pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28744#comment-6231
13 June 2007 7:36pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/28786#comment-6271
19 June 2007 7:42pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29131#comment-6429
20 June 2007 5:37pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29149#comment-6459
23 June 2007 4:35pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29170#comment-6570
23 June 2007 8:18pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29170#comment-6581
24 June 2007 5:18pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29170#comment-6693
25 June 2007 2:56pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29175#comment-6729
25 June 2007 3:53pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29175#comment-6818
25 June 2007 6:11pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29193#comment-6937
25 June 2007 6:35pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29175#comment-6938
25 June 2007 6:55pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29193#comment-6939
26 June 2007 12:28pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29195#comment-7242
26 June 2007 3:37pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29198#comment-7255
26 June 2007 4:56pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29198#comment-7258
27 June 2007 3:59pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29207#comment-7297
30 June 2007 8:11pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29198#comment-7258
2 July 2007 12:37pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29232#comment-8701
2 July 2007 1:10pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29237#comment-8703
2 July 2007 2:35pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29232#comment-8720
2 July 2007 4:47pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29242#comment-8908
3 July 2007 12:53pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29256#comment-8925
3 July 2007 1:35pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29256#comment-8926
3 July 2007 3:23pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29256#comment-8941
3 July 2007 3:31pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29260#comment-8942
3 July 2007 4:11pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29260#comment-8949
8 July 2007 6:59pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29348#comment-9579
14 July 2007 4:33pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29370#comment-10343
12 July 2007 1:43pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29408#comment-10056
21 August 2007 3:23pm	http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/29947#comment-12502

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[Buttercup McToots]

89. LC

Can you show a comparision post?
I think that will help in the understanding of what could be going on...

And I was thinking...MP on crew could have been getting frustrated
because he/she didn't think anyone was listening and so
copy and pasted to other sites himself/herself with additional info if needed
to possibly spread his op's
throughout a wider range of the net...where more peeps would happen to
read and be aware...no?

[L. Coyote]

91. I still do not have all the TPM links compiled. n/t

[DemReadingDU]

92. Thank you, much appreciated

This is a lot!

[L. Coyote]

93. 21 August 2007 is a distinct poster, not the Anonymous Lawyer. n/t

[democrat2thecore]

96. Post of August 21st regarding Bush

Clearly that's the same guy. Exact same writing style. This last post though......

He clearly thinks Bush has been had. He obviously believes that Rove and his henchmen betrayed Bush and the country. He also thinks Bush is "allowing" this investigation to continue for the good of the country and thinks Bush is a "strong man" for letting this happen and let the story unfold under his watch. He obviously thinks Bush has had his eyes opened to this incredible criminality and wants the world to know he had no part of it when the shit hits the fan. Am I misreading this? That sure seems to be what he's saying. Bizarre. Anyone?

[L. Coyote]

100. This is the "Ranting Poster" and identifies himself by his company.

Some of his posts occur on the same threads as "Anonymous Lawyer" posts comment on.

He rants about how his company was ill-treated by USG, about Russian mobsters, Chertoff .... Really wild rants!

[democrat2thecore]

103. Oh! Okay......

He's the only one with the 'Russian Conspiracy' stuff?
It's becoming like that old skit "Who's on first?"

[kimmerspixelated]

95. This is what being on the DU is all about!

If this is true-it rocks! Great discussion going here, but what about all the war drumming for IRAN? If all the rats are jumping ship who would be left to launch their nasty war? ...Or, maybe they are leaving the country so that Iran can bomb us all out of Bush's memory? While he's in S. America of course!

[democrat2thecore]

97. Could this be related?

I just posted in a sub-thread (just above) about his last posting on August 21st where he seems to indicate that Bush is some kind of good guy in all of this. That he's ready to allow all of this to come out for the good of the country. I'm bewildered. But, all that aside, could this other DU thread (just posted) have anything to do with all this?
Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1692225

[onewholaughsatfools]

98. no our congress should

be screaming for a special prosecutor, that's why we elected them........contact them now!

[democrat2thecore]

99. If you read the latest updates

At the end of this thread the updates would indicate that the Gonzalez and Rove resignations are part of this story and that a real investigation IS taking place - and Bush is letting it happen! (Unless I have misread the last post or two from Anonymous Lawyer.) This is just getting so strange. I don't know what to believe, but it's obvious some big things are preparing to come down. Too many things seem to line up.

[L. Coyote]

101. My fault for the 21 August confusion. I copied one extra post at the end of the list.

21 August is not the "Anonymous Lawyer."

This is where the confusion seems to arise, and was there before I exacerbated it! :sorry:

[democrat2thecore]

102. Thanks Coyote....That explains some of that.

Good job, by the way, attempting to put together a timeline.
Do you think Putin is getting worried about now? Yes? No?

[L. Coyote]

108. Putin is laughing like the rest of us, wondering where the USA gets such a heap of it!

You have to move on to the new spin off and check out the "Ranting Poster"
to see why Putin is chuckling, and some DUers are blushing. Crazy as it gets or life in an upside down world?? You decide.

I penned this after Bush's Alice in Wonderland praise for Gonzo. I could not think of a better way to comment on up is down and down is up.

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"Gonzolies Adventures in Ronderland" or "Up is Down and Down is Up"

"Gonzo journalism" refers to when an author cannot remove himself from the subject he investigates,
often referring to a style of writing a story as perceived in the moment in the mind of the writer.
Hunter Thompson believed objectivity in journalism was pure myth.

When Boston Globe reporter Bill Cardoso read Hunter Thompson's "The Kentucky Derby is Decadent
and Depraved" he proclaimed "That is pure Gonzo!" Cardoso used the South Boston Irish slang "gonzo"
describing the last man standing after a drinking marathon.

"Gonzolies" is the English neologism describing the last man standing after a lying match.

---------------------------
"Gonzolies Adventures in Ronderland" is a tale with twisted logic epitomizing the genre of nonsense literature. Gonzolies is just one of the characters in the fairy tale of current American politics. The Republican Party has fallen down a rabbit-hole into an hallucinatory realm populated by grotesque misstatements from wild, anthropomorphic creatures like Talking Point Cards, a rabbit-hole where beliefs transcend reality.

Gonzolies, a bored attorney looking for an adventure, starts a journey at Folly Bridge near Crawford, Texas, and ends up years later in the village of Gods Town. Gonzolies takes interest in a passing, ghostly super hero, a white knight muttering "Oh dear! Oh God! The Commies are coming!" He follows the knight down a deficit hole, and finds himself in a dreamlike world of magical beliefs where Gonzolies and R, the now aging super hero, grow to gigantic size.

Eventually Gonzolies joins Mad-Hater and his boss, March-to-War at a never-ending tea party of deficit spending, they go to a distant seashore and meet Mock Truth, and finally attend the Trial of "Critical Reason," the sole non-grotesque character in their adventure. Critical Reason has been accused of "disturbing truths." While Gonzolies prosecutes Critical Reason, he shrinks to a fraction of his inflated height, and the dream ends. Gonzolies wakes up at the picnic in Crawford, Texas.

Nonetheless, Gonzolies soon realizes that in Crawford up is still down and down is still up, and his new super hero, W, is enraptured by his own hallucinatory realm populated by wild, grotesque misstatements and talking points. Just when diminitive Gonzolies realizes the dream has not actually ended, he awakens again, and he realizes he was still at a lying contest and he was not the last man standing.

This time he has awakened in American politics, on the far side of Folly Bridge in Gods Town, where up is still down and down is up, and the lying contest goes on as W praises Gonzolies. Gonzolies wonders, "Am I still dreaming. How can I know if up is down and down is up?" He also wonders, "Am I still standing? Am I really Gonzolies, or is all this still just a dream in Ronderland?"

[Kurovski]

104. K&R. (nt)

[L. Coyote]

107. NEW Spin Off: "Mystery Poster" DEEP MODEM Demystified. SOURCE Found at CREW

"Mystery Poster" DEEP MODEM Demystified. SOURCE Found at CREW
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1692772