Freepers near tears over Roeper's piece destroying Nugent

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

They're in full-blown denial mode
Laugh your ass off here
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887384/posts

Roeper's piece:
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Facing a draft, Nugent bravely wet his pants
http://www.suntimes.com/news/roeper/529419,CST-NWS-roep27.article
So Ted Nugent roams a concert stage while toting automatic weapons, calls Barack Obama "a piece of -----" and says he told Obama to suck on one of his machine-guns. He also calls Hillary Clinton a "worthless bitch" and Dianne Feinstein a "worthless whore."

That Nugent, he's a man's man. He talks the talk and walks the walk, right?

Except when it was time to register for the draft during the Vietnam era. By his own admission, Nugent stopped all forms of personal hygiene for a month and showed up for his draft board physical in pants caked with his own urine and feces, winning a deferment. Creative!

[MadMaddie]

1. No I wouldn't say Creative.....I would say a Coward....

It is really facinating to watch all of the War Mongers who were too cowardly to go to Vietnam scream about WAR, WAR, WAR.....gotta fight them there so they don't come here.....cause me Joe Rethuglican is afraid......Rotten bastards!

Don't you agree it's time we started calling them on it....and not in quiet way.....how many people know that story about Nugent?

[The Vinyl Ripper]

14. I've known the story for at least a decade..

And maybe two or more.. Long enough to not have a clue where I heard it.

You can get anything you want/
At Alice's restaurant/

[Gruenemann]

40. I've know this since the mid-70s

Heard about it in college. Common knowledge at the time. Can't believe he's trying to deny it now. Or yeah, I guess I can believe the he, like all other rightwing scum, is a big fat liar.

[Skittles]

2. freepers are too stupid to know how truly pathetic they are

ignorance is bliss

[zanne]

35. And they prefer ignorance

If they faced the truth, they'd have to admit they're all living a lie.

[Supersedeas]

38. willful ignorance is hardly bliss

[YOY]

45. regretfully, Ignorance is not bliss...ever meet a happy Skinhead?

Ignorance is ignorance.

I just dislike that saying...not trying to start a spat.

[sofa king]

3. Oh, man! Now I gotta change my own pants.

I won't name any names but poster #35 needs to look up "projection."

[Webster Green]

4. There aren't enough machine guns on Earth to make Ted a tuff-guy

He's obviously an over-compensating wussie.

It was an idiotic display from a wannabe Rambo.

[MisterP]

7. gimme the Bay City Rollers: "F-R-E-U-D!"

[Old and In the Way]

5. Just a bunch of tough talking warpigs. They loves them some wars!

Any war that they can support as a patriot is a good war, except those started by Demoncrats. I read though that post and realize how really screwed up and delusional these people are. It saddens me to think that there are Americans who can obsess with war as some kind of wonderful thing that gives their ugly, desolate life meaning. Some even think he ought to run for Governor. God help us.

[treestar]

30. That got me, too. About wars "started by Democrats."

Freepers are so dumb. That freep didn't realize it, but his statement proves his loyalty is to the Repuke party, not the USA.

And they are such idiots they don't realize that if Democrats start wars, then they aren't "cowards" as they claim whenever anyone is against a war

[ComerPerro]

6. freepers just don't get it. I'm not suprised by their comments, though. But the disconnect...

typical "liberals can't scold someone for dodging the draft, most of them and their heroes didn't go".

Well, actually, many liberals did get drafted and serve. And those who "dodged" the draft? Who gives a fuck. Its not like they were actively pimping the war. That's why its so much worse when a conservative does it. Because they celebrate war, but they won't fight in the wars they start.

And they can attack Clinton all they want for "dodging" (even though its been debunked repeatedly), but it doesn't matter when you consider what Bush, Cheney, and ESPECIALLY shitheads like Limbaugh did to avoid service.

[yardwork]

28. Short list of liberals who served in the military during wartime

John Kerry
Al Gore
Walter Mondale
George McGovern

There's more, too.

Short list of conservative chicken hawks who love war but didn't serve:

George Bush (awol from national guard)
Dick Cheney (five deferments)
Rush Limbaugh (pimple on his butt)

There's lots more.

[CTyankee]

31. Add Mr. Ashcroft with a mind blowing SEVEN deferments! nt

[DeSwiss]

8. Nugent is a legend in his own mind.... K&R!!!

[RamboLiberal]

9. I shouldn't be amazed the numbnut Freepers

hadn't heard this about Nugent. BTW, Newshounds posted his Selective Service Record.

http://www.newshounds.us/2007/08/26/proof_ted_nugent_is_a_draft_dodger_will_hannity_keep_defending_him.php

Since we've been discussing Ted Nugent lately, this seemed a good time to bring up Nugent's draft dodging. It's well known that Nugent claims to have gone to great lengths to flunk his Draft Board physical. What's not so well-known is that he got a student deferment at the same time he was touring with his rock band, putting in an average of 300 shows a year. How was he going to school and touring that much at the same time?

One of our readers sent me a copy of an extract of Nugent’s Selective Service records, obtained via a FOIA request (copy below). As you can see, Nugent received student deferments in 1967 (1-S) and 1968 (2-S). But according to the Internet Movie Data Base website, Nugent has been “performing professionally since 1958, non-stop yearly touring since 1967, averaging more than 300 shows per year '67-73.” Hmm, that would include the two years he was supposedly too wrapped up in his studies to be serving his country.

On edit - glad to K&R #5.

[DeSwiss]

10. Ouch!!!

The truth will come back and bite you sometimes. Maybe Ted should take him and his guns to Anbar, so he can fight al-Qaeda. He can even take his guitar and do some concerts over there!!!

[pnorman]

11. What a pack of MORANS!!

I don't have the stomach to go there on a regular basis, and I heartily thank those who venture there in my place. On rare occasions I find a GENUINE Conservative there; one who holds himself to the same standards he holds his opponents to. But mostly they live up to their Freek reputation, and in spades. And they don't "appreciate" that lone Conservative at all!

pnorman

[girl gone mad]

12. Those nutcases still haven't reached a consensus..

on Vietnam. But they do know it was the Democrats' fault for starting the war, it was the Democrats' fault for fighting a pretend war and it was the Democrats' fault for withdrawing while we were winning. Oh, and it's the Democrats' fault that all of their heroes are chickenhawk losers, too.

[The Doctor.]

13. OMG... the FIRST TWO replies are completely hilarious!

Let's see if we can find the idiocy;

To: MC Miker G
"ODD this. Considering the writer voted 2 times for a guy who boasted of dodging the draft and organizing Anti Amnerican protests overseas during the Vietnam era."



2 posted on 08/27/2007 2:49:42 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Donate to Vets For Freedom! {redacted per national security}/)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Well, no one ever said liberals were consistent."



3 posted on 08/27/2007 2:51:04 PM PDT by Constantine XI Palaeologus ("Vicisti, Galilaee")
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Let's see.... only one spelling error, a miracle in a two-post combo in freeperville, but it's obviously a typo, so we'll give the BOTD.

Wait! I think I have it!

"The freeptards are incapable of distinguising between someone who dodges a draft because they are anti-war and someone who is pro-war and a chickenshit!"

Fucking morons.

Sad though, I see this all the time on other sites. "If you're so for the war", I say, "why aren't you fighting in it?"

"Well I don't see you signing up chickenshit!"

Uhhhh... :wtf:


{oe} - National security

[Oeditpus Rex]

15. The Tale of Sir Teddy

Brave Sir Teddy ran away
Bravely ran away, away
When Vietnam reared its ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled
Yes, brave Sir Teddy turned about, and gallantly he chickened out
Bravely taking to his feet, he beat a very brave retreat
Bravest of the brave, Sir Teddy

[mikekohr]

16. Light him up Uncle Dick!

Wielding a brace of automatic weapons, Ted Nugent called Barack Obama "a piece of shit," and said he should suck on his automatic weapon, and then called Hillary Clinton a "bitch," that should ride his machine gun into the sunset.
Nugent, an embarrassment to all responsible, sensible, gun owners and hunters continues to spread his bile and lunacy and helps poison public opinion against hunting and responsible gun ownership. Nugent's outrageous advocacy of hunting and gun ownership is as nauseating as his music, and proves that there is nothing so pathetic as an aging rocker that can't let go of his teen-age addiction to public attention.

If anyone deserves to go on a hunting trip with Dick Cheney, it's Ted Nugent. Light him up Uncle Dick.

read article: http://www.gunguys.com/#post-2417


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mike kohr

[bos1]

17. Funny how the wingnuts complain about entertainers

expressing progressive opinions, saying they're just mindless performers, but then embrace any entertainer who says anything conservative. Jon Voight stepped into that mess recently, I seem to recall.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. I Think The More Salient Point Is Eric Clapton Could Play Better Guitar On Crack

eom

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. They are delusional

“Why would one participate in a war started by Democrats that made pretend they were fighting communism?”

[tsuki]

21. Considering the war started in 1957, I'd say that they are

ignorant. Eisenhower was a Republican.

I've heard that story for years. My belief is that Nugent was 4F and invented the whole tale. He seems to have been on a Macho quest ever since.

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. Their new talking point is that Truman started the Vietnam War

Really.

Once again, they are trying to rewrite history.

[cgrindley]

24. But Truman was the first president to send the military to vietnam

Have you seen "The Quiet American" for example? He sent military observers in 1950 who agressively fucked with the country. Everyone on planet earth knows this. It's not some dumbass Freeper point. It's basic history.

[Toots]

26. Ever heard of Dien Bin Phu (sp)?

The French controlled Vietnam until 1954..

[cgrindley]

48. So what? Truman sent in military advisors in 1950. Period.

It's not a matter for debate.

[cascadiance]

27. I think to characterize this war as one of the "Democrat's creation" is what the problem is...

Each party over its course had its own role in escalating it and taking it in different directions. To characterize the war as "one party's fault" is simplistic and trying to use it in an unscrupulous fashion, the way the freepers are doing here. Initially, before China became Communist, and before the Soviet Union or France was heavily involved with the Indochina conflict, Ho Chi Minh was wanting to be our ally there during WWII, to fight Japanese and then Vichy France occupation. There's a lot of history in between WWII and the 60's that most of us Americans haven't studied or followed that changed a lot over the years as the world stage's dominant players changed, and the cold war started to progress then.

Wikipedia is a pretty interesting read on this subject:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

And if you follow what Daniel Ellsberg talks about a lot now, if it wasn't for American protest movements and the impeachment movement in the late 60's, Nixon would likely have had a nuclear strike against North Vietnam then too. One has to wonder what the world would have been like today had that went through then instead of our ultimate pull out.

[cgrindley]

49. Exactly, looking to place blame for it is stupid just like freepers always are

It basically was an unstoppable force. I doubt that there's any way that the Vietnam war could have been avoided.

[proud2BlibKansan]

56. But they weren't involved in combat, were they?

[cgrindley]

57. I don't know if we even know (nt)

[JHB]

37. Actually I've argued that myself (though somewhat facetiously)...

...since Truman was in charge during the postwar period where after the Japanese surrender the French were allowed to resume colonial control of Indochina, rather than freeing those countries. (Shades of blowbacks to come, Ho Chi Minh and the Viet Minh were clandestinly supported by the OSS (forerunner of the CIA) during WW2.)

[cascadiance]

23. They didn't know the true nature of the "Vietnam Project" like neither Citizen Stan or my dad did!

That story of how the CIA infiltrated Michigan State University back in the late 50's to pose as professors and help South Vietnam set up its programs to torture Viet Cong then is probably analagous to today's Abu Ghraib scandals. But like Smedley Butler's history early last century, and a lot of stuff today it's been covered up over the years so that many of us haven't heard about it.

http://www.cia-on-campus.org/msu.edu/msu.html

Stan Sheinbaum, who wrote the forward to that article later became a "Forrest Gump" for our side in the coming years helping out with many great issues and his history is documented in "Citizen Stan" (look at the second clip on this page here):

http://www.citizenstan.com/

I'd had this history kept from me until last year when I saw Citizen Stan and realized my dad worked for some of the same people that were working on this project when he took us all over to Thailand around '67 to work with MSU then about the time this article was written. It makes me ill thinking of what many of the people my Dad worked with over the years there might have been involved with in this project that was started during EISENHOWER's time!

[tsuki]

59. We were sending our guys over there TDY and ATDY so that

it wouldn't show on their records. Many were overseas already.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. A Few Points

Freepers suck...

Ted Nugent sucks...

But folks on all sides of the political spectrum often have the same problem and that problem is hypocrisy...Behavior doesn't go from admirable to deplorable just because the ideology of the person engaged in it changed...

[Orsino]

25. The draft-dodging wasn't cowardly...

...at least, not necessarily. Roeper's off the mark, there, and failed to make a case even for hypocrisy by not mentioning any Nuge advocacy for war.

In fact, it seems that Roeper is buying into all the macho bullshit by criticizing Nugent's draft-dodging.

[cgrindley]

50. Draft dodging is only cowardly if you're fighting Hitler or Davis

draft dodging is almost always a noble, right and just course of action. If, on the other hand, you really are fighting Hitler (and that's only happened once) or Jefferson Davis (and that also has only happened once), then you have a moral obligation to fight.

[Orsino]

60. I allow plenty of exception for conscientious objectors.

I want violence kept as an absolute last resort, and a draft in a time of frivolous war is the antithesis of what I'm about.

[mwb970]

29. Fortunately, I was just about to take a shower anyway.

Now that I've read all this Freeper crap, I'll need a longer one.

[alfredo]

32. I think his daughter has some unflattering stories about him and

underaged groupies.

[sabra]

33. Roeper also goes after Hannity

<snip>

You'd think even someone such as Sean Hannity would dismiss Nugent as a macho clown, desperate for attention.

Yeah, right.

In a discussion on his show last week, Hannity refused to condemn Nugent's remarks, saying, "I like Ted Nugent . . . he's a friend of mine," and even laughing loudly as Alan Colmes read the transcript of some of Nugent's remarks.

Funny. I don't remember Hannity being so cavalier about the Dixie Chicks went they criticized Bush.

[bunkerbuster1]

34. One Freeper might forgive Ted...

"If Ted owns up to it and says he was brainwashed, at the time, by his professors, the media and the other Marxists that permeated society, and if he then says that he has since learned the errors of his ways, I could support him."

Stupid people are funny!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

36. I see another freeperism for our mocking pleasure: "fish rap." -nt

[TalkingDog]

39. "Fish Rap"

P.P.Pollock sez:
I'll filet your ass with a dirty knife.
Hated on the haddock all'o my life.
I was busted in boston on a tackle boat.
I ramps you downriggers in your oil leather coats.....

wikiwikiwiki....etc.



Fish Rap... is that anything like Amish Jams?



My Favorite Master Artist: Karen Parker GhostWoman Studios

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

61. Fish rap-that's from that "Third Bass" group, isn't it?

In this case, it's not pronounced the same as the "Pop goes the weasel" guys

[Locrian]

41. funny as hell

"I am asking this question with all due respect and genuine interest in your answer.

I was a 17 year old senior in high school when South Vietnam was overrun by the North in April of 1975. Having already charted my course for college and future professional goals, I did not enlist nor did I even register for the draft when I turned 18 that November, not out of cowardice or protest, but laziness and my usual propensity for procrastination.

A short time later the draft was abolished and I never registered at all. I've never served. I have, however always supported the military and favored the use of force when no other option is left, as is the case now since 9/11. I do not own any guns, nor run around in fatigues, or play paint ball or the like. I do read military histories and try to stay abreast of the subject as best a civilian can.

Does that make me a chickenhawk or keyboard commando?"

well golly gee - what do you think?

[Elwood P Dowd]

44. The draft had ended long before this dumb fuck turned 18.

I read several posts over there but must have missed that one.

[Elwood P Dowd]

42. What about the freeper who said he would support letting the military pick our next president?

Another one said the democrats supported a communist takeover of the USA, but Reagan stopped them. Now the democrats are supporting an Islamic terrorist takeover. Pray for W and our troops.

Did you know Clinton started a war in Kosovo just to cover up his sexual relations with little girls?

The freepers are some seriously fucked-up animals.

[Kajsa]

43. Roeper just went up the scale, IMHO.

I haven't cared for his movie reviews,
but this I like!

Alright, Roeper!

:applause:

[YOY]

46. Ladies and Gentleman, Charleton Heston's Heir...

Unless the NRA does some serious growing up and recognizes that Nugent is the paragon of irresponsible gun ownership and the posterchild of tough guy compensation.

[LSK]

47. thanks for the reminder of how scary those freaks are

[Maestro]

51. Old story that I am glad to see creep back into the media.

And the freepers are just hilariously stupid people. Freeps and rapture ready people always amuse me.

[hatrack]

52. "Now they've got Crap-Pants Fever, Dah-dah-DAAAAH!!!!"

:evilgrin:

[SaveOurDemocracy]

55. LOLLLL

:spray:

[Perry Logan]

53. I sure hope Freepers don't start killing themselves. That would be terrible.

[YOY]

58. The smell of it alone...not to mention the clean up!

n.t.

[judaspriestess]

54. its teddi's guilt for being a COWARD

that drives him to be a nutter. He is consumed with it so he has to compensate by being a trigger happy lunatic.