cali
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Wed Aug-29-07 06:54 AM
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at times. So are you. So was Mother Theresa. So, let me posit, are nearly all human beings.
Of course I don't like hypocricy. don't like it in myself and don't care for it in others, but I do realize it's not relegated to any group. And I surely know there are degrees of hypocricy. At certain times, it's downright dangerous, and at other times it's benign or neutral.
As a great man once said:\
"Only hypocrites can't forgive hypocricy".
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:03 AM
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1. I hope this isn't another thread obliquely defending that Senator |
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Because there has been enough oblique defense of that hypocrite.
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:06 AM
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Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 07:41 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
But I think there are different levels of hypocrisy...
Some folks criticize behavior of folks they don't like but would be less critical or more understanding of that same behavior if it was done by someone they do like...
I think a worse form of hypocrisy is criticizing behavior that you yourself have engaged in...
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:33 AM
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He doesn't deserve a defence. As I thought I made clear, there are varying degrees of hypocrisy.
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:05 AM
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2. I can forgive the hypocrisy, but not the underlying hatred. |
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:05 AM
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3. Did you mean: hypocrisy |
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If we're all hypocrites how could we forgive it?
Not so great or wise is it ... your shallow philosophy of hypocrisy.
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:18 AM
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5. Everybody Misspells Words |
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Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 07:33 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
I gave up being concerned about it... JFK was a poor speller and had a relatively pedestrian I Q of 117 and accomplished much...
I don't think the point than only a sinner or wrongdoer ,if religion isn't your bent, can understand and forgive sinning or wrongdoing is such a bad point but I'm not Wittgenstein...
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:32 AM
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7. Jeez! a typo. I must be a hypocrite. |
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And it's not my philosophy. I adopted it from E.M. Forester, who as I'm sure you with your lofty knowledge know, wrote not only great philosophical novels but brilliant political essays. Yeah, he was just sooo shallow. I'm sure your body of work exceeds his.
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Wed Aug-29-07 08:25 AM
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16. However, if not all of us are hypocrites... |
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However, if not all of us are hypocrites, then I for one would like to meet that one in a billion person who is not. Any clues as to who he/she/they may be...?
"If we're all hypocrites how could we forgive it?"
Seems to me a thief can forgive another thief, or a liar can forgive another liar; so why not a hypocrite forgiving another hypocrite? In other words, if one is (or has been) guilty of a particular grievance, what is the precise reason that that same person cannot forgive someone else for the same grievance?
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:30 AM
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6. IMO All parents are hypocrites |
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Especially those w/teenagers. Do as I say, not as I did. Try telling a 16 year old not to speed. They come back w/ " Yeah Dad, I've heard the 120 mph GTO story too many times"etc.
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:39 AM
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for instance someone who uses political power to speak out against others' sexual behavior, all the while engaging in those very behaviors that he denounces. That is uber-hypocrisy.
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:43 AM
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10. i am not a hypocrit. i am a lot of things, some good, some not so good |
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but no.... i am not a hypocrit. doesnt go with my character. but in essence i agree withyour post and feel it is right on in much that you say. i dont agree that all people are anything in particular. i have also read posts where people demand ALL paople are bigots... i dont agree with that statement either.
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:50 AM
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paid someone a compliment that wasn't something you really feel?
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Wed Aug-29-07 08:16 AM
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14. have you ever... is past tense. in the now... no. |
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Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 08:44 AM by seabeyond
i was thinking about this post driving the kids to school. it is like all people lie. (btw, i think your example fits more with lie than hypocrit). i had never been much into lying. not for boost of ego. i would lie to stay out of trouble, not hurt feeling, exactly as you say to compliment when i dont think it true or just because sensitive to a person. BUT, over the last decade and in age and having children, sitting an example not to mention a spiritual experience 7 yrs ago and my NEED to NOT be a hypocrit, i have even let go the less offensive lies and i do not lie at all. what i have found in "surrending" to this mode of thinking is there is not a need to lie, even in someones haircut i dont necessarily like. speaking from the heart i have found that lie doesnt exist. one can speak from the heart "in love" and speak the plainest of truth without hurting another. in past lie was to avoid hurt, mine or another... i have since learned that truth doesnt hurt when in love
edit: wanted to add.... in not lying at all i have also found that there are times when i may feel quite the bitch which i think at times can come from the action of no lie or not being a hypocrit. being a bitch is not necessarily a "good" quality, though some of us women in jest take pride in the word. i have learned to embrace in all my non perfection, that bitch is there at times and i understand there may be the result of someone not liking me. that is ok too. not all need to like me. and all get to decide how they preceive me without voice from me. so there is a bad too. not saying i am perfect in anyway. i am not. nor is anyone. even in the perfect, that is their imperfection.
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:50 AM
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Hypocrisy is not a binary state.
There are varying degrees and sorts of hypocrisy and we are all hypocrites to a greater or lesser extent even if unknowingly so.
Those hypocrites who deserve condemnation are those who knowingly commit hypocrisy which they know full well can cause harm to others.
It was no accident that the behavior that Jesus the Christ most often and vociferously condemned was hypocrisy.
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Wed Aug-29-07 07:54 AM
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13. I am a hypocrite too. |
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Yes, it's true. I have gotten mad at people for doing things I have done myself. I'm sorry.
However, I DON'T HAVE POWER OVER OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES, I don't have the power to make laws that affect how others can or cannot behave, I cannot and do not legislate behavior that I myself engage in, I do not have a national soapbox in the form of a seat in the US Senate from which to vilify people who do what I have done. I also don't go cruising for blowjobs in public places.
That's the difference.
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Wed Aug-29-07 08:18 AM
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15. i dont care about the hypocrisy really. its the crime that should be condemned |
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Edited on Wed Aug-29-07 08:23 AM by lionesspriyanka
bigotry is immoral.
when people condemn hypocrisy its a two pronged condemnation: one for the crime/act committed and the other for judging others harshly who have done the same thing.
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