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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 11:24 AM
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Shanghai Cooperation Organization: Think Putin Restarted Those Strategic Bomber Patrols For Nothing?
Edited on Thu Aug-30-07 11:34 AM by Wiley50
American violations of international law and invasion of Iraq gave a warning to all the countries of the world that US intends to take advantage of the global unipolar power situation to expand its influence over the global vital natural resources especially oil in order to subjugate the rest of the world. Countries, especially Iran, started forming economical and political alliances to counter the global bully – USA. The European Union invited Eastern Bloc states, separated now from Soviet Union, to join in. Russia, Iran, Venezuela, Oman, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Egypt, Libya, Indonesia, Malaysia, Bolivia, Brunei, and Tobago had launched a Gas OPEC in April 9th 2007 to counter American control over Oil OPEC. Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), an Asian regional organization to enhance security, economic and cultural cooperation, was launched by China and Russia and encompasses central Asian states such as Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan. Iran has applied to enter this organization as a member to gain more support.
India, Russia, and China had entered into a trilateral cooperation agreement in February 2007 intended to promote international harmony and understanding. No doubt that the cooperation of these three Asian big powers is intended to counter the American influence in the region. Both China and Russia are allies of Iran, involved in extensive military cooperation agreements. They are major actors in Central Asian oil and have significant strategic and economic interests in Central Asia and the Caspian Sea basin.

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Iran has robust military capabilities as was demonstrated during August 2006 war games. Participating in the war games of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) with Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, Iran had demonstrated large scale military capabilities. Iran has Russian sophisticated early warning radar stations, anti aircraft missile launchers, stealth long range Fajr and Shahab missile bases that could hit Israel, cruise missile sites scattered along Iranian borders, submarines and missile launching speed boats that could easily sink an aircraft carrier and block the Strait of Hormuz, and atop of all that Iran has 14 military airfields housing sophisticated Russian as well as Iranian air fighters. It was also revealed that Iran has produced pilotless stealth drones with a range of 700km that are undetected by radars. Iran is adding to its air power 250 advanced long-range Russian made Sukhoi-30 multi mode fighter jets that could function as air patrol, air defense, ground attack, and air-to-air combat.

The most feared and effective Iranian weapon is the carrier destroying supersonic Russian-built SS-N-27B missile, know to American military as the sizzler. This missile has the potential of performing high defensive maneuvers including sharp-angled dodges. This missile could not be detected until it hits its target. The American navy has no assurances that its Aegis system is capable of detecting, tracking and intercepting this sizzler.

Iran is capable of defending itself and would inflict large casualties on its attackers.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18175.htm

Russia and Central Asian Allies Conduct War Games in Response to US Threats

Barely acknowledged by the Western media, military exercises organized by Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan under the Collective Security Treaty Organisation, (CSTO) were launched on the 24th of August. These war games, officially tagged as part of a counter terrorism program, are in direct response to US military threats in the region including the planned attacks against Iran.

The Rubezh-2006 exercise, is scheduled to take place from August 24-29 near the Kazak port city of Aktau:

"It will be the first joint military exercise undertaken by CSTO countries, and will involve 2,500 members drawn from various armed services of member states, with Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan the principal participants. Uzbekistan, which has recently rejoined the CSTO, will send observers, while the two other pact members, Belarus and Armenia, will not be taking part .( IPWR News Briefing Central Asia)

Press reports from the region describe these war games as a response to US military presence and ambitions in Central Asia:

"The growing militarisation is connected with mutual mistrust among countries in the region, say analysts. Iranian media have speculated that the United States is using Azerbaijan to create a military counterweight to Iran on the Caspian. It is possible that the exercise conducted by the CSTO – in which Russia is dominant – represents a response to concerns about United States involvement in developing Kazakstan’s navy. Observers say Russia is leaning more and more towards the Iranian view that countries from outside should be banned from having armed forces in the Caspian Sea."

Experts say the US is trying to step up the pressure on Iran, as well as to defend its own investments in Azerbaijan and Kazakstan. It is also trying to guarantee the security of the strategically vital Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline.

A military presence on the Caspian would give the United States an opportunity to at least partially offset its weakening influence in Central Asia, as seen in the closure of its airbase in Uzbekistan, the increased rent it is having to pay for the Manas base in Kyrgyzstan, and the diplomatic scandal that resulted in the expulsion of two Americans from Kyrgyzstan.

According to analysts, genuine security in the region can be achieved only if the military interests of all five Caspian countries are coordinated. At an international conference in Astrakhan in July 2005, Russia proposed the formation of a Caspian naval coordination group, but to date the initiative has not had much of a response.(Ibid)

Iran War Games coincide with those organized by the CSTO

The entire region seems to be on a war footing. These CSTO war games should be seen in relation to those launched barely a week earlier by Iran, in response to continued US military threats. These war games coincide with the showdown at the UN Security Council and the negotiations between permanent members regarding a Security Council resolution pertaining to Iran's nuclear program. "They are taking place within the window of time that has been predicted by analysts for the initiation of an American or an American-led attack against Iran" (see Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya, Global Research, 21 August 2006):

"War games and military exercises are now well underway within Iran and its territory. The Iranian Armed Forces—the Regular Armed Forces and the Revolutionary Guards Corps—began the first stage of massive nationwide war games along border areas of the province of Sistan and Baluchistan1 in the southeast of Iran bordering the Gulf of Oman, Pakistan, and NATO garrisoned Afghanistan to the east on Saturday, August 19, 2006. These war games that are underway are to unfold and intensify over a five week period and possibly even last longer, meaning they will continue till the end of September and possibly overlap into October, 2006". (Ibid, emphasis added)

While Iran is not a member of the CSTO, it has observer status in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), of which China is a member.

The SCO has a close relationship to the CSTO. The structure of military alliances is crucial. In case of an attack on Iran, Russia and its CSTO allies will not remain neutral. In April, Iran was invited to become a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO).

Sofar no concrete timetable for Iran's accession to the SCO has been set. This enlargement of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which also includes observer status for India, Pakistan and Mongolia counters US military and strategic objectives in the broader region. Moreover, China and Russia, which are partners in the SCO also have a longstanding bilateral military cooperation agreement. In August 2005, China and Russia conducted joint militart exercises.

The conduct of the CSTO war games must be seen as a signal to Washington that an attack on Iran could lead to a much broader military conflict in which Russia and the member states of the CSTO could potentially be involved, siding with Iran and Syria.

Also of significance is the structure of bilateral military cooperation agreements. Russia and China are the main suppliers of advanced weapons systems of Iran and Syria. Russia is contemplating the installation of a Navy base in Syria on the eastern Mediterranean coastline. In turn, the US and Israel have military cooperation agreements with Azerbaijan and Georgia.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=CHO20060824&articleId=3056
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 12:05 PM
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 12:27 PM
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2. Cold War restarted - Mission Accomplished!
Nobody wanted that old peace dividend anyway.
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Horseradish Donating Member (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 01:01 PM
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3. If we start a new war
we'll be like Clint Eastwood in The Gauntlet. They know we're coming and they're ever so quietly lining the avenue to war with weapons on par with ours.

Scary stuff.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 01:46 PM
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4. "Both China and Russia are allies of Iran, involved in extensive military cooperation agreements."
And if anyone believes that Russia and China, et al, are going to allow the US to get away with another 'pre-emptive attack, they are completely delusional.

:kick:nR!
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 01:50 PM
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5. Despite my considerable and absolute opposition to another massive war crime, I must admit
that I seriously doubt the Iranians would put up much of a fight. All of the techno-military talk with numbers and letters and nicknames for missles never really materializes in the field, as least from what I can tell.

We heard all of this about Iraq, and the Iraqis were eviscerated almost immediately.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 03:03 PM
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7. Iran is MUCH better prepared than Iraq....
...Iraq's stance (after the US supplies ran out) was all bluster....the Iranians with Chinese and Russian support, however, are a completely different kettle of fish...

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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 03:23 PM
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11. Somehow
I doubt that Iran would just fold.

The difference is that, I think that Iran and all the Countries that support Iran
have all learned valuable lessons from what was perpetrated on Iraq,
and it sounds like they're ready not to make the same mistakes,
should the U.S. be :dunce::crazy: SO incredibly STUPID:crazy::dunce: as to attack them in any way shape or form.

No, I don't think it will be so easy this time.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:08 PM
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21. "SO incredibly STUPID" like everything I've seen the past 7 years n/t
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 02:58 PM
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6. I want a sandbox, too
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 03:03 PM
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8. Here ya' go. Our CIC's sandbox:
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 03:10 PM
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9. I fear Junior has no Kung Fu skills
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 03:17 PM
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10. No "Kung," but beaucoup "F.U.!"

The HMFIC Doing What He Does Best (F.U.!)
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 03:43 PM
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12. the "one finger salute" by Capt. AWOL n/t
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 08:31 PM
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13. k for the nightshift
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 09:32 PM
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 12:47 AM
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15. Yes. The Silk Road. What the Bush admin was really in a lather about right before 9/11
And it wasn't Saddam. Saddam's debilitated broken down Iraq after 10 years of ruthless sanctions wasn't the problem. Just a convenient petri dish, where we could implant ourselves and our own "vital interests" fast. Very fast.

According to below, the SCO was created in June, 2001.




http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=us_plans_to_use_military_force_against_iran&iran_general_topic_areas=us_force_against_iran_geopolitics

Mark Burles authors a report for the RAND Corporation on the subject of recent Chinese policy toward Russia and Central Asia. The report notes that while “China’s relationships with the countries of Central Asia do not carry the same potential threat to US interests as its relationship with Russia does,” China’s support “for the extension of pipeline routes from Central Asia through Iran the potential to generate conflict between Beijing and Washington.” Burles says China’s “pledge to help construct a pipeline from Kazakhstan to the Kazakh-Turkmen border, with the goal of eventually extending through to an Iranian port… would run counter to the current US policy of denying Iran access to Central Asian oil.” <[b>Burles, 1999]

Category Tags: Think tank activities, Geopolitics
July 18, 2001


Ariel Cohen of the Heritage Foundation authors a report warning that recent agreements between Russia and China demonstrate that the two countries are “positioning themselves to define the rules under which the United States, the European Union, Iran, and Turkey will be allowed to participate in the strategically important Central Asian region.”



Good Neighborliness, Friendship and Cooperation Treaty - The treaty, signed two days before, includes a commitment to pursue “oint actions to offset a perceived US hegemonism.” Cohen says the treaty “should signal to the Western world that a major geopolitical shift may be taking place in the Eurasian balance of power.”

Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) - Cohen says the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), created on June 14 (see June 14, 2001
), and consisting of Russia, China, and the Central Asian States of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan, could undermine US influence in Central Asia.

Military partnership - Cohen warns that the two counties are interested in boosting “each other’s military potential as well as that of other countries that pursue anti-American foreign policies.” They could encourage the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction in order to “force the United States to spread its resources thinly to deal with evolving crises in different regions simultaneously.”

Russian and Chinese economic cooperation
- There are “numerous projects for developing free economic zones along the Chinese-Russian border and an international port in the mouth of the Tumannaya river (Tumangan)…,.” The Russian and Chinese also plan to “cooperate in developing a network of railroads and pipelines in Central Asia, building a pan-Asian transportation corridor (the Silk Road) from the Far East to Europe and the Middle East.”

Cohen's conclusion - Cohen urges US policy makers to “examine the changing geostrategic reality and take steps to ensure that US security and national interests are not at risk.” 7/18/2001]

Entity Tags: Ariel Cohen, Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)

Category Tags: Key events, Think tank activities, Geopolitics



Cold Warrior wet dreams seem to die really hard, even among the craggiest Nixon-Raygun-Bush senior octagenerians. Shamelessly so.

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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:21 AM
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16. Methinks Cheney's silkworm is soon to turn ( and head right at a US carrier) n/t
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 07:38 PM
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17. Some very interesting facts here. Thanks Wiley. Kick again. n/t
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:05 PM
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20. It was the Most I could do. I, like most of us, am powerless n/t
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:04 PM
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18. Looks like Dumb George played right into their hands
Who the hell was his strategist? Cheney? The Heritage Foundation, AEI?? The whole repub higher archy? What have the Dems on the Hill been doing? The Dems have truly been outnumber but why are they not talking about these matters Now?
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:53 PM
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19. It's looking that way.
if they wanted to see us spread ourselves thin, looking at our simultaneous quagmires in Afgahnistan and Iraq, and now this enormous pre-emtive build-up in the Gulf itself.... some might say we've gone out of our way to accomodate them-- beyond their wildest dreams.


Cohen warns that the two counties are interested in boosting “each other’s military potential as well as that of other countries that pursue anti-American foreign policies.” They could encourage the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction in order to “force the United States to spread its resources thinly to deal with evolving crises in different regions simultaneously.”

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