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Fri Aug-31-07 05:14 AM
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I'm still ANGRY my son was stop lossed to Iraq |
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Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 05:21 AM by Breeze54
I mean, I'm grateful he came home in one piece but I'm really angry that I was treated like sh*t by so called "Dems" and total as*oles from freep republicons! I had to walk a FINE line and it hurt! It hurt!! I don't mean people at DU but some AA/RR MB people. They said they were 'progressive' but do those kind of people wish your son will be killed in Iraq? I think not.? Anyway, for all of you wondering why I and some others are flipping out a little? Fear not. Just sad and in mourning.
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:17 AM
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1. Hmmm... just thought I'd mention my 'ANGER' ... |
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Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 05:19 AM by Breeze54
You know, like some other members they are obviously angry that their kids is is Iraq or Afghanistan. I don't blame anyone for being angry. The invasion of Iraq was a LIE!!!!!
Now...THAT makes me angry!!! :grr:
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:27 AM
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5. Don't apologize. More people should be angry. |
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I think people should be occupying federal buildings and blockading military bases. It seems there was more civil disobedience during the 80s against the US support for death squads in the Americas and against nuclear weapons than there is now against this all-out mass-murderous private war. But I guess the new laws would make such protesters terrorists now.
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:35 AM
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I needed that!
I'm not going to apologize to anyone ANYMORE!!!!!
They can go screw themselves!! :P
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:17 AM
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2. I can only imagine your rage and stress. |
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The neo cons are heartless sons of bitches, they can't feel fear and pain and concern and compassion like you and I.
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Breeze54
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:37 AM
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7. It's been tearing me up, Philosoraptor... |
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and thank you for just being you and letting me be real.
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:22 AM
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3. I've been so angry for so effening long |
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for your son, for all our kids, I can't even say it in words any more. :hug:
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:39 AM
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8. I know! You've been my shelter and |
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I love you for that. I knew you were safe...always.
Thank You for being you and so understanding to me. :hug:
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Fri Aug-31-07 08:10 AM
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29. You posted for me sfexpat2000. Thank you. |
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:22 AM
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4. I cannot even imagine... |
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...the pain that you have endured. You are entitled to every shred of anger, pain and sadness that you have! You are a brave person for facing what BushCo has done, and how he uses our soldiers and doesn't care about them. The people who are in denial--who must believe that their children are doing this for a "worthy cause" are far worse off than you. At least you are facing the truth. It's more difficult and painful--but please give yourself credit for being honest and brave.
I cannot imagine my child marching off into BushCo's sick war. I just want to say that you are in my thoughts and that you are not wrong for all of the feelings that you have.
Take care--
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:44 AM
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10. Your words made me breath... |
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Thank You, TwoSparkles. I've been holding my breath for quite awhile. Now I'm trying to learn to let go...it's hard.
I'll do it though....in time.
Thank You for your kind and thoughtful words. :hug:
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:42 AM
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9. You don't have to apologize for anything. |
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Your anger at that sort of ignorance is justified. May your son continue to be safe.
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:53 AM
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12. I appreciate that, Tinman. |
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I was dumbfounded by that and just enraged but I had other things to address, at the time. But now I think I have breathing room...
Thanks. :hug:
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:47 AM
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11. Your anger is justified; use it wisely. n/t |
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Fri Aug-31-07 05:54 AM
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:hug:
You are always so wise. ;)
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Fri Aug-31-07 06:00 AM
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14. i felt that way when they sent my kid back a third time-channel that anger |
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Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 06:00 AM by w8liftinglady
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Fri Aug-31-07 06:04 AM
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16. I'm trying to learn to do that now. |
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You've been someone I've looked up to, through all this. You're a strong woman and I appreciate your words. I know they come from experience. :hug:
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Fri Aug-31-07 08:00 PM
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42. I Don't Know How to Feel |
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My son-in-law, in Air National Guard and father of one grandson, is already deployed.
My son (nine years in regular Army), and father of another grandson, did two tours in Bosnia followed by two in Afghanistan, and when he wasn't in either, he was in Germany under constant standby of Iraq deployment.
He got out last September. My sigh of relief lasted one year. He has just re-enlisted, in Army National Guard. I objected, you'll go after all. He acknowledged it, and did it anyway.
The dice are rolled every day and you wait.
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Fri Aug-31-07 06:01 AM
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15. You have every right to be angry..... |
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I'm sorry for the way you were treated by some. If my son had been in Iraq I don't think I would have had much sleep or a moment of peace. How is he doing?
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Fri Aug-31-07 06:14 AM
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17. It's funny you would say that! |
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You know, when your baby is a newborn, you don't sleep for months and I thought those days were behind me but little did I know he'd be there. You're right! Maybe that's my problem. I didn't sleep for 18 months. I couldn't sleep and I feel like I may have cheated my youngest son. Good thing he's an easy going and understanding kid Being a parent is so hard, even after they're in their 20's. It never stops, ya know?
Thanks! :hug:
PS. He's doing great now! Good job, big money, new girl friend & house! ;)
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Fri Aug-31-07 06:28 AM
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18. Happy to hear he is doing great.... |
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It must be awfully hard to adjust after being through the nightmare of Iraq.
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Fri Aug-31-07 07:29 AM
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21. It did take a long time for him to 'adjust'... |
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He was just lingering around, for 7 or 8 months, after he got back. Making decisions was difficult and he was playing and writing music for over 7 months. His tempr was short and he didn't have any drive. I was very worried but he got this job opportunity and he wasn't going to even try for it, until I gave him some "Hard Love" and I told him to put Iraq behind him and that he should go for this job and why would he let the younger kids have the job, that are graduating? I told him to get up and go get the job and don't let anybody take it from him because he deserved that job as much as anybody else!!
Well; after all his *sighs*, he did what I told him to do and he was hired within a week!! :D
I had to get kind of pushy with him but I'm glad I did! ;)
And I know he's happy he has that money and a pretty easy, no labor, job. ;)
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Fri Aug-31-07 08:58 AM
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31. Your 'hardness' was a good motivator for him |
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He had a chance to feel your passion and be inspired by it. I'm glad you got pushy with him and I'm sure he is too. After earning his pay in Iraq, that new job will feel like picking up money off the ground! I wish you both a happy, stress free future full of successes. The love is there and you have him back. Pretty wonderful!
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Fri Aug-31-07 06:31 AM
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19. how long ago did your son join the military? |
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if it was anytime since the current mis-administration took over, i have a lot of trouble feeling much sympathy...
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Fri Aug-31-07 06:38 AM
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20. You always see the 'Dark Side".. and why should I have to justify |
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What my son did or why he did it AS AN ADULT??? HE WAS STOP LOSSED!!!
DOES that give you a clue?? Or are you UNABLE TO DO THE MATH?
He joined while CLINTON was President, in case, and obviously,
you aren't able to figure out!! Go fuck yourself, bitch!! :grr:
Go back to RRMB, freak!! Your shit stinks!!
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Fri Aug-31-07 10:28 AM
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36. if he joined while clinton was president, why are you so hot under the collar...? |
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as for doing the math- i have no idea how long any particular enlistment is for- so no, i wouldn't know just by reading "stop-lossed" how long ago he might have enlisted- all i said was that i would have a lot of trouble garnering much sympathy for anyone who was foolhardy enough to have signed up/volunteered to serve once the current group of fascists took over.
if your son joined under the clinton presidency- then i can understand.
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Fri Aug-31-07 07:37 AM
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that post was uncalled for.
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Fri Aug-31-07 08:51 AM
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30. Wow. I was wondering what comments Breeze was talking about |
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Now I know.
That was fucking awful. Are you sure you are not a Republican?
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Fri Aug-31-07 07:32 AM
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22. I would not have allowed my son to have been "stop lossed" |
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I would have disowned any son of mine who insisted on joining the military to serve under the Crackhead In Chief.
I would have given his share of any inheritance that he may have been planning on receiving to the local dog and cat shelter.
And I would have told him my plans before he enlisted just so there was no surprises later on.
The way I look at it is by doing so just might save his life so it would have all been worth it.
Don
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Fri Aug-31-07 07:41 AM
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Why would you assume someone stop-lossed joined after this mess started?
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Fri Aug-31-07 09:54 AM
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35. Obviously you have never had a 19 year old son |
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My son is a 2nd year ROTC cadet at Norwich. He has wanted to be in the military since he was 11 or 12. When this war began he told me that he was reconsidering because "a president can start a war for no reason" - his words. But he changed his mind back, and here we are.
He actually disowned me for a while. He felt that all of the DU-type anti-war stuff I was sending him was showing him I was not supporting his decision, so I stopped. I can't change his mind. My choices are live with it or lose all contact. I can't just disown him, because, if I did, I would have absolutely NO chance of ever changing his mind. And I love him so much I am getting teary eyed typing this.
My hope is that in 2010 when he is commissioned he will be going into a very different army in a very different country. I admire what he is doing, while, at the same time, wishing he would do something else.
But he won't...
Breezie, I will need your help in coping with his deployments, and the help of all those DU-ers who do not condemn anyone with a loved one in the military.
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Fri Aug-31-07 10:31 AM
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37. I have two daughters in their 30's |
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It would have been the same deal if one of them told me they had wanted to enlist under these circumstances.
I promise I would have. I have thought long and hard about this.
I wouldn't have enjoyed doing what I had to do. It would have broke my heart. But I still would have done it.
I could not have lived with myself if one of them had wanted to go off and participate in killing people who had not ever attacked us and I supported that decision.
I would have felt as I had blood on my hands if I didn't break all ties.
Don
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Fri Aug-31-07 07:25 PM
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39. Ya know, things are a whole lot easier when they are theoretical. |
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I would not and will not give up my child. He is doing what he thinks is the right thing. I have seen up close what happens to the entire family when someone is ostracized. It is a poison to the entire family structure.
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Fri Aug-31-07 07:35 AM
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23. I'm just glad he came home okay |
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and I'm hoping my brother does also. It's sort of like holding your breath for a year or so.
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Fri Aug-31-07 08:07 AM
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27. It's so easy for people to say |
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"I would have done this to my kid" or "Why did he join?"
Those people can kiss MY ass too.
Here in Middle Tennessee there are NO JOBS for young men. The state has money to harrass these kids CONSTANTLY but they can't seem to create any jobs for them.
Yeah, one fine example: the University of the South: You've been warmongers since you were formed. AND IT WAS CHARITY WHICH GAVE YOU YOUR LAND - WELFARE!You want to pay the kids squat to wipe your toilets and butter your bread, but then you want to let law enforcement bankrupt the kids for life, destroying their chances while your chickenhawk students sit on their fat asses eating bonbons and getting drunk off daddy's war proceeds. "Peace? What the hell is peace when grown men destroy the lives of young men?"
One friend is going back in because he just had a new baby and felt that desperation of having to provide for the child. My heart is broken. He is like a son to me. My own son is out now, but I am still angry as well, even at some of the responses here.
Any DUer who gives you a hard time (and i just spotted two here) can KISS MY NARROW WHITE ASS.
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Fri Aug-31-07 08:09 AM
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28. I would be flipping out too I think |
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I honestly can't imagine.
:hug:
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Fri Aug-31-07 08:59 AM
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32. Breeze I am so sorry you have to hear from these inconsiderate |
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people who obviously have nothing but criticism to offer anyone. It is a scream out to the world that THEY are the ones who feel bad about THEMSELVES.
And I am so sorry you had to go through all that with your son. My friend's son was over there and I could not stop being nervous until he got home so I cannot even imagine what you went through. Please know that most people are good at heart and care about you and your son.
I really am sorry.
:hug: :grouphug:
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Fri Aug-31-07 09:04 AM
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Understand your anger, I've watched "stop loss" screw folks for years, so glad he made it home safely.
Long time reader/supporter of DU, but since I wore a uniform, thought it best not to be active - UNTIL NOW!
22 years, 8 months, 17 days - but whose counting....... hee hee
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Fri Aug-31-07 09:49 AM
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My dad was USAF. :patriot:
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Fri Aug-31-07 07:30 PM
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40. Welcome to DU! Now TELL IT LIKE IT IS! |
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The future of the country depends on people like you speaking out. Please do look into Iraq Veterans Against the War. BHN
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Fri Aug-31-07 10:26 PM
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and thanks for your service. We need more people who understand what that oath to preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States means.
We have so many in public office who have forgotten what it means.
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Fri Aug-31-07 11:06 AM
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38. I cannot even imagine the pain and worry that you must have suffered. |
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Not only to have to worry about your child in Iraq, but knowing what the war is all about.
I'm sorry you had to go through all of this.
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Fri Aug-31-07 07:32 PM
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hating immigrants, hating republicans, hating Arabs, and most importantly...hating victims....and yet..nobody asks why? How come? Really simple questions, with really simple answers.
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Fri Aug-31-07 10:10 PM
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43. Glad you son's home in one piece ... |
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but it sounds to me that your problem is all about You. Not Him.
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