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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:41 AM
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Refresh my memory: What was behnd the Bush/Reagan family wars?
I know these families detest one another but what was the basis for the feud?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:47 AM
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Chickenhawk Vs. Chickenhawk: a republicon 'honor' feud
Which family wimped out more often when America had need of real leadership
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:19 AM
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12. ??? Reagan, pere nor fils, served in a war zone. At least Poppy did.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:47 AM
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1. Snobbery of "old money" versus "new money"
Bushes consider themselves patricians in the tradition of Plymouth Rock and all that. Restricted country clubs. Legacies. Education at Yale and Harvard only. Bluebloods.

Bushes considered the Reagans to be more than "new money". They considered the Reagans to be "west coast" millionaires, Hollywood B-movie players, and particularly found Nancy to be too much of a wannabe-old-money kind, an outsider who wanted to be an insider. To the Bushes, you're BORN into the cliche and you can't buy your way in or be invited in.
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I_Will Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:59 AM
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8. I enjoyed the typo, "chiche" versus "clique" ...both are appropriate :) n/t
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:14 AM
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10. OMG, Freudian slip -- Thanks for catching it and finding it amusing.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:47 AM
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2. For all his faults, reagan was an American conservative.
Sick and wrong, yes, but he genuinely loved America.

Bushco are traitors, the spawn of a family of traitors who have been selling out America for generations.

I think it is as simple as that.

Oh, yeah, GHWB tried to have Reagan KILLED. That can make for bad blood.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:48 AM
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This may help
"'Bush wants to defeat his opponents, Reagan wanted his to join him,' one former official of the Reagan White House said."

http://interestingtimes.blogspot.com/2004/06/reagan-vs-bush.html
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:48 AM
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3. Add to the fact that Nancy Reagan couldn't stand the bush**s
and didn't want anything to do with them.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:49 AM
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4. If I had my guess
I would say it was probably mostly started by Nancy and Barbara and maybe passed down to some of their kids. I never got the feeling that Ronald and George didn't like each other, and I don't think George Sr. holds grudges what with the way he hangs out with Bill Clinton.

Bush did run for president in 1980 against Ronald Reagan before becoming Ronnie's running mate so there might have been some hard feelings over that, and George W. is said to be more like his mom when it comes to holding grudges.

TlalocW
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:55 AM
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7. Voodoo economics vs. Reaganomics cut to the core of the debate
Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 09:57 AM by EVDebs
"Voodoo economics" catchphrase that stuck during the Bush v. Reagan campaigning:

"Reagan made supply-side economics a household phrase, and promised an "across the board" reduction in income tax rates and an even larger reduction in capital gains tax rates. (Case & Fair, 1999: 781, 782). When vying for the Republican party presidential nomination for the 1980 election, George H.W. Bush derided Reagan's supply-side policies as "voodoo economics". However, later he seemed to give lip service to these policies to secure the Republican nomination in 1988, and is speculated by some to have lost in his re-election bid in 1992 by allowing tax increases. (See: "Read my lips: No new taxes.")"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply-side_economics

Reagan really was wrong, but Bush had to adopt the policy once HE got into office. It even cost him the '92 election. During Reagan's years, Reagan cut taxes and then had to raise them later (shhhh, don't tell that to the neocons nowadays !).

Also, some former Reagan era aides feel that * is destroying their party, guys like Paul Craig Roberts for example.



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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:51 AM
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5. Nouveau riche [Reagans] vs. Old Money [Bushes/Pierces]. nt
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:53 AM
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6. IIRC Poppy Bush pulled a "cheney" on Reagan
Reagan wanted somebody else as VP but CIA man dug up some dirt or something and forced himself on RR. I can't remember where I heard this but it made sense at the time. :shrug:
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BrklynLib at work Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:00 AM
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9. I beleive the Bushes thought Reagan stole the nomination for President.
Bush had been groomed to be Prez, and I am sure Babs, in particular, did not savor the idea of being only second in command!!!
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:16 AM
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11. It comes own to
the Bitch Queen herself. Barbara Bush did not care for the Reagans.
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