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Fri Aug-31-07 01:38 PM
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Senator Craig is not gay, he just likes an occasional man tool.. |
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Fri Aug-31-07 01:42 PM
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1. Believe it or not, from an earlier posting, there was a study of these encounters that indicated |
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Fri Aug-31-07 01:45 PM
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2. They did not "self identify" with being gay. |
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Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 01:47 PM by mzmolly
:shrug: That's how Dr. Drew characterizes the "not gay" statements.
.Fifty-four percent of his subjects were married and living with their wives, and superficial analysis would suggest that they were exemplary citizens who had exemplary marriages. Thirty-eight percent of Humphreys' subjects clearly were neither bisexual nor homosexual. They were men whose marriages were marked with tension; most of the 38 percent were Catholic or their wives were, and since the birth of their last child conjugal relations had been rare. Their alternative source of sex had to be quick, inexpensive, and impersonal. It could not entail any kind of involvement that would threaten their already shaky marriage and jeopardize their most important asset - their standing as father of their children. They wanted only some form of orgasm-producing action that was less lonely than masturbation and less involving than a love relationship. Of the other 62 percent of Humphreys' subjects, 24 percent were clearly bisexual, happily married, well educated, economically quite successful, and exemplary members of their community. Another 24 percent were single and were covert homosexuals. Only 14 percent of Humphreys' subjects corresponded to society's stereotype of homosexuality. That is, only 14 percent were members of the gay community and were interested in primarily homosexual relationships (Humphreys, 1970).
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Fri Aug-31-07 01:48 PM
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3. That makes sense, the 50% Are the ones being hit on. |
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The other 50% Are 100% gay then? What % does Graig fall in?
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Fri Aug-31-07 01:52 PM
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4. In Arab countries, the pitcher is considered macho, and the catcher is considered gay and condemned. |
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Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 01:55 PM by shain from kane
Here's a comment that I found on the internets -----
"Islam has a fundamentally different definition of sexual roles, which can be crudely defined as the male role, which is active, and the female, which is acted upon. There is no stigma to a man using a homosexual for his pleasure, it just means he is so manly and virile that he can afford to waste a bit of it. In this country, Roy Cohn had the same attitude back in the day.
Numerous studies have shown that rates of same-sex intercourse are far higher in Arab countries than in the West. It's just that they don't think screwing a gay person makes you gay. Apparently, however, they don't like seeing gays any more than Western fundamentalists do."
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Fri Aug-31-07 01:56 PM
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7. This was the same in ancient Rome/Greece |
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Fri Aug-31-07 01:56 PM
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8. also in latin america. |
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Fri Aug-31-07 02:59 PM
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16. So Craig is an Islamic Fundamentalist? |
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Fri Aug-31-07 04:04 PM
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17. And probably a Guatemalen or Honduran. Most definitely a Greek, or as Bush* would say it -a Grecian. |
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Fri Aug-31-07 01:53 PM
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5. The Stephanie Miller crew spent most of the previous two days shouting "I'M NOT GAY!" |
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Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 02:08 PM by rocknation
at each other, while people called in with lines like, "I'm not gay, but I think my right foot is."
One call in particular caught my attention: "I'm not gay, but the man I have sex with is." I'm sure the caller was gay and kidding, but the idea intrigued me: Suppose he HADN'T been kidding? Are there REALLY people like that?
P.S. Of course Stephanie Miller played the B-52s' Your Own Private Idaho!
P.P.S. With great reluctance, I must give Best Snark Honors to Fox News' Brit Hume: "I'm six foot seven, and MY stance isn't that wide!"
:rofl: rocknation
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Fri Aug-31-07 02:02 PM
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9. The song I like for this episode of Repub Ozzie & Harriet: |
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"We're a Happy Family" by the Ramones:
We're a happy family We're a happy family We're a happy family Me mom and daddy
Siting here in Queens Eating refried beans We're in all the magazines Gulpin' down thorazines
We ain't got no friends Our troubles never end No Christmas cards to send Daddy likes men
Daddy's telling lies Baby's eating flies Mommy's on pills Baby's got the chills
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Fri Aug-31-07 02:05 PM
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11. OMG! Brit "I have the personality of a drip of grey paint on a grey wall" Hume? |
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That's actually pretty fucking funny.
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Fri Aug-31-07 01:54 PM
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6. i agree, theres a difference between gay identity and having sex with men |
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Fri Aug-31-07 02:04 PM
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10. Aren't people bi too? Why is it that everyone has to be straight or gay? |
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Isn't that a limited and bigoted way to view it? Maybe he really is attracted to his wife, and he also likes to fool around with guys? Why can't that be possible?
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Fri Aug-31-07 02:05 PM
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12. This brings up an interesting question. |
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Assuming that sexuality is a continuum, and I believe that is true, and probably that continuum is arranged in a bell curve, as most natural systems are, then at what point is someone gay / lesbian?
My personal belief is that the whole idea of sexual distinctions is idiotic, although I can understand why those in the gay community find it necessary for political reasons.
My "best friend" is a flaming queen (his choice of words), but to me, he's just Dan. Dan's SO is a dude, and he's a close friend too. Other than that difference in our lifestyles, we're pretty much peas in a pod. Dan's just an irascible old bastard whose caustic personality perfectly compliments mine. There is a hell of a lot of complexity in our relationship, but his sexual preference doesn't come into it, as far as I can tell. Neither does mine, for that matter.
The whole concept of "gay" is bullshit. We're people, and that's that.
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Fri Aug-31-07 02:19 PM
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13. Gay bash back is nasty also. |
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Me, i love everybody. Do your own thing, just be honest about it. honesty, seems to have disappeared just like,..Peace.
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Fri Aug-31-07 02:22 PM
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14. I say the same thing about masculine and feminine. And we have to put up with it from childhood. |
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"She's a tomboy." "He's a mama's boy." "He's a man's man." "She's kind of mannish." "Dude looks like a lady." etc., etc.
What are the archetypes for 100% masculine and 100% feminine? If they are actors, we should remember that it is acting, anyway.
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Fri Aug-31-07 02:41 PM
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15. As far as I've been able to figure it out... |
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this all flows from the seventh grade when everybody was struggling to find or construct their sexual identity. Apparently a lot of people get stuck there and can't get out. They're stuck forever comparing and labeling in hopes of finding their place in the grand scheme.
Sad, really, when you think about it.
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