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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 06:32 PM
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Rove chokes out a long and wrong (delusional) article trying to put a positive spin on Bush's legacy
August 31, 2007 11:45 AM

The Long View

Advisory thoughts on the 43rd president.

By Karl Rove

The Washington Post scorned President Truman as a “spoilsman” who “underestimated the people’s intelligence.” New York Times columnist James Reston wrote off President Eisenhower as “a tired man in a period of turbulence.” At the end of President Reagan’s second term, the New York Times dismissed him as “simplistic” and a “lazy and inattentive man.”

These harsh judgments, made in the moment, have not weathered well over time. Fortunately, while contemporary observers have a habit of getting presidents wrong, history tends to be more accurate.

<...>

President Bush will be viewed as a far-sighted leader who confronted the key test of the 21st century.

He will be judged as a man of moral clarity who put America on wartime footing in the dangerous struggle against radical Islamic terrorism.

Moral clarity?

On torture: Bush condemns world 2003; world condemns Bush 2006

The Abramoff Investigation; "better not put this stuff in writing"

More Rove in italics (followed by facts):

...he said, will not wait until dangers fully materialize with attacks on our homeland before confronting those threats.

August 6, 2001 PDB

The Pet Goat moment (video)


...the wisdom of removing terrorism’s cause...

"Hang Saddam Hussein because there's nothing else this president can get right."


...by advocating the spread of democracy, especially in the Muslim world, where authoritarianism and repression...

Juan Cole on Bush’s monumental stupidity

Bush to extend call for global democracy


President Bush will be seen as a compassionate leader who used America’s power for good.

Bush offers American flags to Katrina victims.

Two years ago today: key moments in Bush admin's Katrina response


While the world dithered, America confronted HIV/AIDS in Africa with the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, which has supported treatment for more than 1.1 million people worldwide, over one million of them in Africa. While most of the globe ignored Sudan and Darfur or refused to act, this president labeled the violence there genocide — and pressed world leaders to take action.

Laura Bush's Promotion of Condoms in Africa 'Evolutionary,' But Advocacy for Abstinence and Fidelity Short-Sighted, Opinion Pie

SOTU: Bush’s AIDS Policy Is ‘Basically Unworkable’

Democrats victorious in dodging attempt to cut AIDS funding

A wide range of human-rights issues — from the repression in North Korea, Myanmar, and elsewhere to religious freedom to trafficking in persons — are kept on the international agenda in good part because of this president’s demands for action.

Looks like Bush really did screw up on North Korea.

BCCI, Iran Contra relevance: UAE, Saudi, Pakistan, money and Bush family


In education, “No Child Left Behind” introduced accountability into our public-education system by ensuring every child’s progress is measured.

No Bush Left Behind


His faith- and community-based initiative is encouraging social entrepreneurship to confront poverty and suffering. Billions of federal dollars can now be accessed by such groups eager to serve a neighbor in need. Already, 34 Democrat and Republican governors and more than 100 mayors of all stripes have created faith- and community-based offices to build on the federal initiative.

Christian Coalition losing chapters; "They're a total disgrace."


On energy, the environment, and climate change, he is developing a new paradigm. Emphasizing technology, increased energy-efficiency partnerships, and resource diversification, his policies are improving energy security and slowing the growth of greenhouse gases without economy-breaking mandates and regulation. The president who won criticism by rejecting the failed approach of Kyoto has implemented policies that enabled the United States to grow its economy by 3.1 percent and reduce the absolute amount of CO2 emissions (by 1.3 percent).

"Bush's 'parting gift to the coal industry'"


...And he understood the necessity of appointing judges who know the proper and limited role of courts and will provide impartial justice and faithful application of the Constitution.

Abuse of Executive Privilege

"For the (SCOTUS), this will be remembered as the year of intellectual dishonesty."

"Gonzales, however, chose to function more like the President’s personal legal strategist..."


...President Bush had the political courage to confront the biggest economic challenge America faces.

The Bush Economy (PDF)
8/3/2007

Chart 1: Job Growth Among the Slowest of Any Administration in over 70 Years

Chart 2: Private Sector Job Growth Among the Worst of Any Administration in over 70 Years

Chart 3: The Most Protracted Postwar Jobs Slump

Chart 4: Unemployment Rate up by 0.4 Percentage Point

Chart 5: 1.1 Million More Unemployed Workers

Chart 6: Over 90 Percent More Long-Term Unemployment

Chart 7: Employee Compensation Has Lagged Far Behind Productivity

Chart 8: Real Earnings Growth Has Been Weaker and More Unequal Than It Was in the Late 1990s

Chart 9: Large Projected Surpluses Turned Into Large Deficits

Chart 10: $4.1 Trillion More Debt in FY 2008

Chart 11: Bush Tax Cuts Will Be More Than 100 Times Larger for Millionaires than for Middle Income Households

Chart 12: One of Only Three Administrations with a Decline in Household Income

Chart 13: Real Median Household Income Down $1,273

Chart 14: Real Household Income Has Declined for All Income Groups since 2000

Chart 15: Administration with Second Largest Average Annual Rise in the Poverty Rate

Chart 16: 5.4 Million More Americans in Poverty

Chart 17: 6.4 Million More Americans Without Health Insurance

FOLLOW THE MONEY...



more of Rove's delusional hogwash
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 06:35 PM
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1. This isn't from The Onion?
It should be, because I'm laughing!
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 06:38 PM
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2. Which is more nauseating, this or Rove's trying to be a rapper?
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 06:43 PM
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3. I am in way too good of a mood to read his nonsense.
But I'll bookmark it for Monday night, when I'll already be pissed off because I have to go back to work.


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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 06:48 PM
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4. Alligator tears. He's the ultimate skank. nt
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 06:48 PM
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5. Ah, yes, this will be Rove's last lie...
...his pathetic attempt to shore up, gloss over and gild the administration he helped put in office.

If he keeps repeating it enough, he's sure it will eventually be perceived as true.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 06:49 PM
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6. dreme on carl
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 06:50 PM
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7. That man deserves to be under the jail
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 07:20 PM
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8. But Bush Said, In the Long Run, He'll Be DEAD!
And that is the best we can hope for....
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 07:27 PM
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9. YUP! You're right, Karl. He was/is far-sighted, unable to see what was in front of him.
I can't wait to read the pages of history about you, Karl. I guarantee they won't be as "kind" as you'd like.

Sure, you got your little 'parade' as you left. Hitler got lots of those, Karl.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:38 PM
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15. Yep, he will be condemned with Atwater and Colson
Other men with no sense of morality, who wouldn't know truth if it bit them. Atwater was remorseful before he died. Colson rejected his actions and "found God" in jail. He came out and apologized to some that he had harmed, but did nothing in 2004 to out one of his noxious agents - John O'Neil. Apparently the God he found, didn't ask that he speak out when evil HE PLANTED surfaced. Both of these men , clearly at some point found it hard to reconcile what they did to their own image of themselves as good people. Though I hope that like Colson, he will face some legal punishment, I hope that eventually what he did troubles him.

I would bet that in the future, an older Rove will also speak of seeking atonement.
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 07:35 PM
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10. Um, yeah, except there weren't any radical Islamists in FUCKING IRAQ!

These people are seriously and dangerously deluded.


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 07:51 PM
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11. Cross posted at
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 08:51 PM
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12. Karl,ya lost me at "Bush will be perceived as a far sighted leader who confronted
the key test of the 21st century." This trash isn't even worth the slight effort it would take to show it for the bullshit it is.

Bush will go down as the worst president this country's ever had and you will be judged every bit as harshly as him and the rest of this despicable administration.

And screw you getting a bad rap in the history books. I still want to see your vile,flabby little ass thrown in jail. And no minimum security federal lockup. Toss your ass in a hole in Leavenworth, Florence,Colorado, or Marion,Illinois.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:16 PM
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13. Worst President Betting on Rovian Revisionism
Dung and his side kick Turd are betting that things will look cheery through a rose-colored rear view revisionism mirror. Planting, prodding, pushing, padding, pumping, prompting, proffering, pamphleteering, but mostly just propagandizing Bush's loathsome legacy of death, lies and narcissistic and Messianic self view. They'll laze away in sickening comfort in the wake of world discomfited by their NeoCon myopia. Good luck with that Mr. Rove I am sure you'll find a plum of a job as an "analyst" in the "Liberal Media".
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:15 PM
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14. Kick! n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:43 PM
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16. fantastic through counter to Rove's insane lies
I guess he didn't here that people now see that there is no wizard behind this administration's curtains. Strange that he goes for arguing greatness, at a time when arguing even competence doesn't work. If he were farsighted, wouldn't he have fixed things before they became quagmires and crises?
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Jesse Hemingway Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:52 PM
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17. A flying pig just
A flying pig just CHT all over my keyboard.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:57 PM
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18. Bush possibly "the very worst president in all of American history"
From Think Progress:

<...>

If Rove’s track record is any indication, this latest prediction will also likely turn out to be incorrect. In 2006, roughly a week before the midterm election, Rove predicted “a Republican Senate and Republican House” by claiming sole access to “THE math.” In Nov. 2000, he claimed the “election will not be close” and predicted Bush will “win enough states to get about 50 more Electoral College votes than he needs to win.”

Rove joins Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), who in July predicted that Bush’s “ratings among the historians will be greater than his ratings in the polls today,” and Rush Limbaugh, who said in May that historians will “place George Bush in the upper echelon of presidents who had a great vision for America.”

But historians are already debating Bush’s legacy. Rolling Stone recently wrote, “Many historians are now wondering whether Bush, in fact, will be remembered as the very worst president in all of American history.”



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 01:58 PM
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19. Kick! n/t
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