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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 08:54 PM
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Rogers rumored to be on the verge of outing Graham & McConnell.
I just hear thin on Mike Malloy's show. He was talking about Craig and he said he's heard it's not over for the Pubs. Rumor has it that Rogers is preparing to out Graham of SC as being gay, and McConnell for being discharged from the military for fondeling a man's ........

I about choked! On several shows tonight they were talking about how upset the Pubs were with the damage that has been done to their Party and that Shrub considers this week as the political week from hell.

I really hate to be vindictive, but I hope the rumor is right! They put BC through hell for 8 f'ing years! I want to see the last few years of their entire party suffer BIG TIME!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 08:56 PM
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1. How Could McConnell Hide Something Like That?
Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 08:56 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
Are military discharges public documents?
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 08:59 PM
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4. NO! And I understand he's been very careful to make sure they don't GET OUT!
Remember all the flack Kerry took about not releasing his military records? They're private unless the owner releases them.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:07 PM
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17. SOMEONE will get their hands on them. Maybe Mike Rogers has OTHER proof?
Man, I hope so!
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:05 PM
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12. If you remember, rove sent clerks to the NARA
to take all the records off the shelves. It is hard to tell what they took. They had to be looking for specific information. Because what they took was not classified. And they won't return it. Who knows..they might have been looking for stuff like that.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:05 PM
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14. I just googled and it seems old Mitch has refused access to his Military discharge info. There's
been a FOIA request filed for them. I have no idea if someone actually got them though. Maybe Mike Rogers did??? HOPEFULLY, Mike has PROOF of these accusations and isn't just releasing the stories because he has h\"heard" McConnell and Graham are gay. I thought it was an open secret in DC that Graham is gay?
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:28 PM
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32. Is this the same Mitch who wants Craig to
disappear. These Rethugs just keep on giving.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:36 PM
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34. One and the same! They are generous, aren't they?
:rofl:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 08:11 AM
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66. Way too generous n/t
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 06:58 PM
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76. Could it be another "MCConnell'?
from South Carolina?
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 08:57 PM
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2. Good timing.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:09 PM
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19. can it wait a week?
I think that would be the best timing - enough time to let it sink in that GOP stands for something else than Grand Old Party :)
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:02 AM
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61. Greedy Old Poofters???
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:43 AM
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73. I like that!
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 08:58 PM
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3. I thought everyone knew Graham
was gay? Did I miss something here? As far as the other guy...wow. But then nothing anymore surprises me.....i am just waiting for someone to out jr. It's coming.....and then I want to see old fright white momma defend her kin then.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:00 PM
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7. I think so far it's been supposition, and so far, I don't think the
people in SC seem to know, at least not for sure!
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morningglory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:31 PM
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33. Southern Baptist from the South here, there is a certain class of "Mama's
Boys" in the churches. Makes them seem sweet and harmless. Graham strikes me as one of those. Sort of like Frist of Tennessee, that sort of demeanor. Just sayin'...
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:03 PM
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42. Absolutely, Graham fits the "bachelor choir director" archetype perfectly
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 11:45 PM
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48. Absolutely no surprise there.
None.

Well, maybe to the right-wingers who think it's never "one of their own."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 06:52 PM
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75. dah, news to me. (about grahmn until a few hrs ago)
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:00 PM
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5. Yes, they do deserve it
especially because of the way they vote against gay rights any chance they get. They use hate to get elected, they play on it.

So when is Larry Flynt going to break his news, he was supposed to have more GOP hypocrits?
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:20 AM
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71. If he is smart he will wait until the Reps pick their candidates for 08
and the states have already made up ballots. That way it will be difficult, if not impossible to field another candidate.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:00 PM
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6. Who is Rogers, please?
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:02 PM
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8. ...
Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 09:02 PM by JackBeck
www.blogactive.com
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:04 PM
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11. Thank you

:hi:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:11 PM
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21. No prob.
Been visiting that site almost every day for years.

:toast:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #8
28. I loved it.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:03 PM
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10. Here:
http://blogactive.com/

He's a gay journalist/blogger who's been threatening to let out the names of all closeted, ant-gay, gay republicans.
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Mutineer Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:57 PM
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39. So why hasn't he already outed them all?
Put up or shut up--but why protect them?
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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:02 PM
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9. If you out all the gay Republicans, there will be very few left... 3rd Party?
We could have the Republicans (3%), the self hating gay basing gay Republicans (SHGBGR (97%))
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:07 PM
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16. Or fondly known as "Sugar-Boogers."
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:20 PM
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27. YOMANK!
:spray:
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:07 PM
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18. Most Republicans are not gay.
But when the overall few gays ones are outed it seems to be a big deal, rendering the Left to go apoplectic and assume that almost ALL Republicans are gay.

This has gotten old and tired.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:17 PM
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25. Of course not all Pubs are gay, but it's the same thing with any
other group. Cops are all viewed dirty (at least by some) because some of the bad ones are exposed. All NRA members are deemed to be crazy gun toteing AHs because a few are.

If the Pubs, as a Party, insist on keeping the total anti gay agenda as part of their Party platform, they better keep their own noses squeeky clean or they will suffer the pain of total distrust of the Party!
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:20 PM
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44. Obviously I agree with your observation that "not all Pubs are gay".
Try to convince the one I was responding to!

:pals:
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:08 AM
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55. It's not about being gay. It's about being a hater and voting to keep gay's from having equal
rights under the law. These men, while engaging in homosexual sex or show deviant sexuality themselves and publically condemn others for doing the same while earning a salary paid by the taxes of those same condemned people, is what's wrong. Don't you get it? Say no to hate and hypocrasy, stupid.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:21 AM
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58. Most of any random group's members are not gay, gays' being in the minority of society.
Edited on Sat Sep-01-07 01:22 AM by WinkyDink
Not a valid argument, therefore.

The question is: why would gays become Republicans?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:05 PM
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13. Yup--yesterday I said Graham and McConnell would be next. I was right.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:15 PM
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23. Let's not get ahead of ourselves so far this is nothing but internet speculation
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:19 PM
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26. I've seen the McConnell rumor elsewhere--maybe true, maybe not. But Graham?
Come on! He's GOT to be!
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 12:15 AM
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51. Please. Fill us in on what stereotype behavior of Graham's convinced you of his homosexuality?
After all..."He's GOT to be!"

:eyes:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 12:34 AM
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53. Oh my God. Get fucking real.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:36 AM
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64. You're the one who's making blanket, stereotypical assertions
But I suppose you think it's ok to gay-bait people if they're republicans. Never mind the hostile atmosphere it contributes to here.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:53 AM
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74. I respect you, but in this case you are being very disingenuous...
ask your brothers why so many of them do choose to demonstrate stereotypical mannerisms, speech cadences, etc...
Orientation is certainly biologically determined, but the signifiers...?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:07 PM
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15. Unless Somebody Comes Forward I Don't See This Story As Having Legs
Edited on Fri Aug-31-07 09:07 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
We'll see...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:09 PM
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20. they've put america through hell for the last seven years...
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:14 PM
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22. And you know what is so damn maddening
is the way these republicans snicker and sneer at Barney Frank. There is nothing wrong with being gay. Barney Frank has the courage to admit it. See the difference between him and the republicans. THE MORAL FAMILY VALUE party. Bunch of absolute hypocrites.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:13 AM
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56. you got it! eom
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:16 PM
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24. The more the merrier!
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:28 PM
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31. Which McConnell? Smarmy Ass Mitch McConnell, Senator from KY
or that other McConnell that Chucklenuts appointed?

I'm not getting my hopes up but I sure would laugh my ass off if it is Mean Mitch - his "base" in Kentucky just wouldn't stand still for that. His bought and paid for Governor, Ernie Fletcher, was found in the middle of a Republican political hiring scandal so he threw him overboard in the last primary and supported Anne Northup (defeated in Nov. 06 by John Yarmuth - yay!) and she lost. Add up losing the Senate, his candidates going down in flames, the horrible, terrible year for the GOP (Grand Old Perverts) and Mitch's karma is biting him in the ass right now. Add up his wife's own problems in the Dept of Labor and they both need to retire.

Puhleeeze let it be Mitch McConnell. /dream off
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:27 PM
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46. bit of history re McConnell
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:22 PM
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29. They better put an addition on the log cabin.
Goddamn!

Why lead your life this way?

Is it religion that fucks up their heads or what?

I suppose it's just the societal non-acceptance of gays.

Whatever the case, these men are despicable cowards. Despicable because they have worked hard to oppress people just like themselves.
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:22 PM
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30. Oh ho
COME OUT, COME OUT, WHEREVER YOU ARE! :popcorn:

Man, time to cue up Schadenfreude from Avenue Q again, good thing mp3s don't get worn out.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:41 PM
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35. WTF?
I've heard the Senate called the..'rich man's club'...but I had no idea...and here I've always thought they were bad liars.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:43 PM
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36. i thought people already knew Graham was gay, will this actually surprise anybody?
his voting record on gay rights is horrible---quell surprise.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:02 PM
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41. Yes, I wonder how one outs Lindsay Graham...
my mother in SC doesn't call him "Miss Lindsay" for nothing
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:45 AM
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59. I thought you were talking about Phil Graham . . . !!! Linday, yes!!!!
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:43 PM
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37. please, let there be a blue dress in there somewhere
oh, please, if a blue dress could bring about impeachment of BC, let's hope there's another one in
the closet.

Hee, Hee.
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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 09:55 PM
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38. What goes around comes around.
Maggots have quietly been feasting on the GOP for years and years. This party is on a collision course.


http://www.thelawparty.org/FranklinCoverup/franklin.htm

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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:00 PM
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40. Blackmailing those hypocritical coc-- would be a more strategic move
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:28 PM
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47. maybe thats why they rubber stamp bushco nt
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:09 PM
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43. K&R nt
no real text, as I'm 3 :beer: in here. Looks good though. Cheers!
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cloudbase Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 10:25 PM
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45. I can understand Mitch.
After all, if I were married to Elaine, another man just might have a certain attraction.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-31-07 11:51 PM
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49. Who is Rogers? n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 12:14 AM
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50. See post 8. n/t
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 12:17 AM
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52. McConnell? No way! n/t
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 12:59 AM
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54. Ain't that America...
The one good thing about outing gay politicians who play to a hate-agenda base is that this base hopefully will be so disgusted that they'll be discouraged from voting. And the independents will see the hypocrisy -- along with all the other horrific things the Bush branch of the repukes has brought to the American people and will vote against repukes.

I get so sick of American attitudes -- they certainly don't match Americans' behaviors.

I've thought for a while that Ralph Reed was gay. As far as the "why" -- he just sets my gaydar off. I assume I can be straight and still have gaydar if gays can gay and also be breeders.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:15 AM
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57. Lindsay Graham!
hahaha - I hate that rat bastard!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 01:48 AM
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60. Might we begin to think about how puritanical sexual oppression/patriarchal religion . .. .
creates distorted human behavior and possibly even aggression and violence -- ???

Hitler -- way fouled up sex life --

Hoover -- J. Mary Edgar Hoover

Nixon -- and his lover, Rebozo



Bush, Jr. -- any thoughts on that?

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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:08 AM
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62. Bush Jr.--Arthur Ashe, Gannon?, bald-head rubbers anon., etc.
I must hasten to add my problem is not with gay--my problem is with hypocrisy and gay bashing as a political strategy--practiced by all these Repig closet cases.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:28 AM
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63. For the love of God, VICTOR Ashe, not Arthur.... !
Sorry, but this mix-up is very offensive to me. Arthur Ashe was the wonderful tennis player who died in 1993 from transfusion-transmission of HIV after quadruple bypass surgery in 1979.


I'm sure this was innocent, but Arthur Ashe is a hero to many. Please correct!

Victor Ashe was the former mayor of Knoxville, Tn and a crony of Bush*.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 08:17 AM
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67. Not the great Arthur Ashe, but Victor Ashe the pear-shaped "very close friend" of *
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:39 AM
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65. Ha ha ha... This political season will be interesting...
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:07 AM
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68. Oh, please let it "out" about Mitch. How totally delightful for Kentucky.
If this is true, then Mitch is the top HYPOCRITE alive. He used the addition of a gay blasting to the ballot in Kentucky to save the seat in the Senate for PUGnacious, brainless Bunning. Mitch is up for re-election in '08. Oh, yes, please let it be true.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:10 AM
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69. On edit in regard to Mitch, I must also hope that the expose is
perfectly timed to coincide with our November election for governor. Hopefully if a replacement is chosen, we will have a democratic governor to choose the replacement.
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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:10 AM
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70. Maybe we oughta start calling them "The Pubes"?
Sounds more appropriate to me, anyway. These are the same guys that couldn't stop talking about Clinton and his liason with Monica. They're focused on sex so much, pubes sounds like a good way to refer to them.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 09:23 AM
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72. I don't like rumors. I prefer facts.
This is Drudge-type drivel.
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #72
78. Yea, I do to, but its fun to think about.
:bounce:
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BornagainDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 07:06 PM
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77. Oh faakin' hell yes! Let's take all the bastids down!!
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