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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:41 PM
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The cycles of rage. Is the recent tone of DU really just mainstream?

I can't go back too far into history because I'm still just a younger geezer, but let's look back at least to the 60s. The classic teevee show "All in the Family" pretty much used the rage of that era as fodder for its excellent plot lines. On the one hand there was Archie, representing the mostly WWII veteran aged 'adult' white, Christian, male. Archie resented everything that had transpired since Herbert Hoover left office. The show's theme song even mentioned this. On the other side was the mostly ineffectual Mike Stivik, mostly raging against Archie. Also raging against Archie was his neighbor, the equally angry, but for very different reasons, George Jefferson.

Archie was, indeed, an Everyman. He was the white, Christian, heterosexual, male. He was raging against a world that his many nemesises were working hard to create.

Following Archie was the Silent Majority. Feeding into and off of them, and frothing them to an all-consuming rage, was a nascent right wing talk radio.

This begat the Reagan Democrats and the Moral Majority. With them all the way was right wing talk radio. They raged and raged.

They raged against the blacks.

They raged against the gays.

They raged against the independent women.

They raged against the Jews.

They raged against the atheists.

And they raged against the Liberals.

Meanwhile, while those vilified experienced and exercised some spotty (and mostly righteous) anger and rage, there was no counterbalancing rage to that which truly energized the right. We had the myth of the angry black man in the 70s. We had the myths of angry women and angry draft-eligible kids. These were as much - or more likely more - right wing created hate targets as they were real phenomena.

But the last six plus years, at least, have fomented a different kind of rage. It is much more genuine. It caused the beginnings of a left wing radio rather than being the product of such. It caused the coalescing of disparate groups to a common cause rather than growing out of it.

Those not still followers of the right wing rage machine are now raging against it. Some of that rage remains amorphous and only fuzzily targeted. But it is coming into clearer focus. We are becoming the Backlash of the New American Century. We're liberal, we're gay, we're of color, we're working class and we're educated. We're young and we're old. We lived the 60s and we don't even know its history. We fought in Viet Nam and we fought in the Middle East. We came when we were called to duty. We're less likely to have been shirkers. We're involved and we're aware. We're rich, we're poor, and we're everything in between. We really ARE America.

And we're raging.

And our rage is growing.

Some of us have managed to get in touch with the rage. Some of us have not. Some of us are targeting that rage and some of us are shooting friend and foe alike.

But we are becoming a force. A real force. One that can be harnessed and directed and led.

And Archie Bunker is scared as he has never been scared before.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 02:45 PM
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1. Bingo. KnR
Nailed it.

'nuff said.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 03:54 PM
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2. a brilliant verbal hand grenade my friend!
:hi:
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 04:01 PM
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3. been seeing a lot of shooting "friend and foe alike" here at DU
I wish we would channel that energy against the common enemy. They would get the ass kicking they so richly deserve
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 04:39 PM
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4. Right ON!!
Hat's off to H2Sparkly.

K&R
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:06 PM
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5. Yuppers!
:kick: and REC'D!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:23 PM
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6. Now if we could only get a protest organized by someone other than ANSWER
It would be a great step forward.

-Hoot
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 07:54 AM
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11. We're ready to be harnessed and led. All we need is that leader.
I have never ever felt leaderless as I do these days.

Sure, there are plenty of people-who-would-be-leader, but there is no leader. I know it isn't a popular thing to think that we're just waiting for a person to come along, inspire us, and make us all *want* to stand in unison, but the fact is, that's what it will take.

We're ready ..... and waiting.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 12:39 PM
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14. I've tried to lead.
I would walk away from my career if I knew my rent could be covered and my kids would be fed.

How can I do this?

-Hoot
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 07:57 AM
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13. True that! Those clowns are an embarrassment. nm
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 05:24 PM
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7. And the rage comes from the no-holds barred new hates - M & M's - Moslems
Edited on Sat Sep-01-07 05:26 PM by higher class
and Mexicans (and for those of the haters who are geograpny deficient, Mexicans means Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, etc.).

And the new rage is about vote thefts, rights thefts, rendition, prisons, mercenaries, torment, torture - waterboarding, dogs, forced male-male sex with a laughing audience in attendance, and set-up executions, invasions, theft of precious cradle of civilization treasures, waste of government property, theft of tax funding for the country as in bridges, the stealing of a heart of a city - New Orleans, the arrogance of invading a foreign country with revolving lies and excuses. Utter, inexecusable vile arrogance and greed.

Yes, rage and coming together, but not enough if the next rage is about the bombing of Iranians - as in Persia. Babylon, now Persia - by American elistists of northern European stock pretending to be Christians.

The rage begets rage. Archie - Michael. If only this was just a tv program. Norman Lear - saw it.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 06:24 PM
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8. one part of your argument is wrong. The 60s and 70s were real and
a time of real anger and change. You mentioned that you are young and that may be why you see that era as:

We had the myth of the angry black man in the 70s. We had the myths of angry women and angry draft-eligible kids. These were as much - or more likely more - right wing created hate targets as they were real phenomena.

They were real. We were real. The whole generation was real. No myths involved. no right wing creations involved. This tells me that the history classes are not telling the story correctly. not surprisingly.
Unfortunately, people in our country today haven't a third of the courage or insight or caring about democracy which that generation had. Otherwise the streets would be FULL as they were back then.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 07:29 PM
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9. I'm young in the sense of my geezerness ...... I was a grownup in the 60s.
I am a young geezer now.

I was in and out of the Navy before the 60s ended.

The point I was making is that the anger our side displayed was turned against us and used to vilify us even more to those who would benefit from that. The 'angry black man' just as an example, was mythified for purposes not favorable to black men. So, too, for angry women and angry youth and angry liberals.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-01-07 10:52 PM
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10. Idont agree, but that's what demcracy is all about.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 07:55 AM
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12. K&R
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