Arthur Silbur responds to Ray McGovern's "Do We Have the Courage to Stop War with Iran?" post:

[scarletwoman]

The Pathetic Words: Too Late

August 31, 2007
The Pathetic Words: Too Late
(Updated at the end.)

This will be short, and very rude.

Ray McGovern asks: "Do We Have the Courage to Stop War with Iran?"

Answer: NO.

Sorry, Ray. Sorry, world. As I have explained at some length, and as the King quote at the conclusion of McGovern's article has it, it is already too late. It may not have been in February of this year, but it is now.

Tragic beyond measure, but it's the truth.

<snip>

PRIORITIES: I just received an urgent email from Media Matters. Like, totally super urgent. A call to action to stop an attack on Iran, and a possible nuclear world war? Oh, my. No, no, no.

A call to action to protest some of Tucker Carlson's remarks about the Craig story, which came perilously close to an endorsement of gay-bashing. And the MSNBC/Carlson story continues to be highlighted on Media Matters' homepage.

Carlson's remarks were reprehensible; so are these related comments from Jonah Goldberg. They both should be severely condemned. I'll have much more about the sources and meaning of these kinds of remarks in the very near future. But, dude, I don't think Carlson and Goldberg are, like, threatening the entire galaxy, know what I mean?

And I realize this is completely amazing, since I'm a freakish faggot and all, but I actually think an attack on Iran and its probable consequences are more important.

Well, there's some freaky faggot thinking for you.

posted by Arthur Silber at 11:16 AM

If you really want to deepen your thinking, go read Arthur Silber. I hope folks will click on the link and read the whole piece.

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[regnaD kciN]

1. It isn't a matter of courage...

...but of power.

We had the courage to stop the war in Iraq. Remember the millions who demonstrated throughout the U.S. in the months before March of '03? But only one person had the power to choose war or peace, and that person had already decided to ignore us, no matter our numbers or our courage.

And there's no sign anything has changed this time. :-(

[scarletwoman]

3. I mostly agree -- although it also seems to me that really truly confronting power IS a matter of

courage.

But Ray McGovern's piece isn't what I wanted to focus on in my OP, it is Arthur Silber's answer to McGovern's piece that I wanted to highlight.

Sorry if that wasn't clear -- I only included the hyperlink to the Ray McGovern piece to make it more convenient for people who hadn't seen it and might not know what Silber was responding to.

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[Tom Joad]

2. the real scandal in DC is that whenever the warpushers tap their feet, the politicians

start playing footsie.

http://www.nysun.com/article/50391
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/house-dems-indicate-they-are-more-united-on-iran-legislation-2007-05-15.html

House Democratic leaders initially attempted to insert Iran language in their now-vetoed Iraq supplemental bill, but abandoned the plan after some New York Democrats, including Reps. Eliot Engel and Gary Ackerman, balked at the language.

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), an influential group that advocates strong U.S. ties with Israel, lobbied heavily to remove the Iran provision in the supplemental, arguing that the measure would weaken President Bush’s attempts to dissuade Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

see also www.stopAIPAC.org its part of the problem.

politicians theme song:
Knock Three Times on the Floor if you want me......

[scarletwoman]

4. Yep. It's footsie, all right. Silber makes the same point in his post:

And keep in mind that with regard to foreign policy, every politician in Washington is Larry Craig.

Great minds think alike, Mr. Joad.
:)

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[shance]

5. Is this a repetitive version of "no use, just sit back and enjoy"? I think it is.

Implying by corporate media that we are no voice and we have no options, thus of course doing their job in enforcing powerlessness and helplessness.

[scarletwoman]

6. Why are you asking? Did you go to the link and read Silber's whole post?

You do not seem to have gotten his point.

[scarletwoman]

7. Late morning kick...