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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:33 AM
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Progress Report: A partial list of Benedict Arnold Democrats and their 2008 primary challengers
I posted this list on GD a while back to highlight Democrats who seem to have sold our party out. Let's see how things have progressed since then in terms of Democratic primary challengers.

Moderators, pay careful attention - in no wise am I encouraging independent or third-party candidates to run against these Democratic incumbents. This is strictly Democrat vs. Democrat, and I say let the battle for the party begin!

Disclaimer: This is not a complete list. Updates and additions are welcome.

(AL-5) Robert "Bud" Cramer
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(AR-2) Victor Snyder
Voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(AR-4) Mike Ross
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(CO-3) John Salazar
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(FL-2) Allen Boyd
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(IL-3) Daniel Lipinski
Voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: MARK PERA

(IL-8) Melissa Bean
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: RANDI SCHEURER

(KY-6) Ben Chandler
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(LA-3) Charles Melancon
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(MN-7) Collin Peterson
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(MS-4) Gene Taylor
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(ND-0) Earl Pomeroy
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(SD-0) Stephanie Herseth Sandlin
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(TX-28) Henry Cuellar
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

(UT-2) Jim Matheson
Voted for Military Commissions Act (8/27/06), voted against McGovern Amendment (5/10/07), voted for Bush's demands for warrantless wiretapping (8/4/07)
Primary Challengers: NONE AT PRESENT

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As you can see from the list presented above, out of 15 turncoat Dems, only two of these turncoats have Democratic primary challengers. Only two. Clearly, our party still has a world of work to do - and not much time left to do it.

So, if your Congressperson is one of the individuals listed above, and there isn't anyone challenging that individual for that seat in Congress, it's a sign that you should find an honest Democrat who is willing to run against them - or possibly run against them yourself.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:35 AM
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1. Hmmm
Don't spose Rocky Anderson would be interested in running against Matheson? :shrug:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:37 AM
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2. Notice anything about these folks?
Because it should be as plain as the nose on your face that almost all of them are from red states or red districts. This is just lunacy. I don't approve of those votes they cast, but I sure don't want to see them replaced by repukes. Those votes hardly represent all of the votes they cast.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:39 AM
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4. Who's talking about replacing them by republicans? This thread is about PRIMARY challenge.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:41 AM
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5. Fact: A liberal cannot get elected
in most of those districts. Fact: The OP is calling for a liberal challenger to all these reps.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:42 AM
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6. Then they won't win the primary either.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:48 AM
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11. Probably true. n/t
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:47 AM
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10. Doesn't have to be a LIBERAL Democratic primary challenger...
Liberal, progressive, moderate, conservative, whatever. Just has to be a Democratic primary challenger who doesn't have his head so far up his ass that he's unable to read the Constitution anymore.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:56 AM
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13. A liberal can't, but a populist probably could do extremely well here.
Sure, most typical populists are socially conservative, but they've historically been strong left wingers on economic issues and isolationist on foreign policy.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:07 AM
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20. NOT a fact, just an opinion,
and MY opinion is that a well funded Economic Populist with Democratic Party support can get elected anywhere in the USA.

I support the Primary Challenges.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:42 AM
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7. Have you ever considered that maybe the reason Republicans win in these places
Are because their opponents every election are often these DINOs like the current incumbents
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:47 AM
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9. No. Because I prefer to
deal with reality and anyone who wants to educate themselves can see the history of these districts.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:45 AM
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8. Shake and bake, baby, shake and bake!
These people are one big part of the reason why we are still in Iraq. Why torture is now used by the Bush administration - even on our own citizens. Why Bush has yet to face impeachment.

The 110th Congress has been grinding down to near-impotency partially because of the division in the Democratic Party. We need to fix this problem, and now.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 11:31 PM
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18. No kidding.
Edited on Sun Sep-02-07 11:31 PM by provis99
Of the ones listed, I see that eight are Southern Democrats who represent white majority districts. They're already probably just barely holding on to their seats from Republican challengers, who I guarantee would look like monsters next to these guys. No liberal is ever going to win in those eight districts. Sometimes, you just gotta take the Democratic Big Tent approach and realize a moderate or conservative Democrat is better than a reactionary Republican.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:38 AM
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3. Now this is the sort of thing I can get behind! Thanks!
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:52 AM
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12. What a horseshit list... what is their labor voting record and
Edited on Sun Sep-02-07 10:55 AM by Gman
have you even considered that before encouraging someone to run against them? These people are from red states which means their constituents are moderate to conservative which means they're doing their job as their constituents want which means BYOFB if you're not in their district and can't vote.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 11:03 AM
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14. Many of them voted to LEGALIZE TORTURE
Not to mention making the centuries-old concept of habeas corpus go poof. That's pretty fucking huge. Makes me think about why the Declaration of Independence was penned in the first place.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 12:29 PM
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16. Many of them have good labor voting records...
Edited on Sun Sep-02-07 12:30 PM by Gman
so what? Why is your sole issue more important than the working people of America? Your list makes me wonder if those that hung to death for the Haymarket Square affair died in vain.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 11:07 AM
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15. Did I miss Brian Baird on this list? "Surge Man" is No.1 to go, if you ask me!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:11 PM
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17. Where's the list of targeted Republicans?
I thought they were the ones we're supposed to be raging against.

Oh wait ... they might get mad or something. Its easier to target red state, red district, conservative constituented, Democrats. I forgot.

My bad. :eyes:
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:03 AM
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19. This next election is our best chance to get any DEM elected.
With the tone of the country decidedly non-Repub. It is a good time for change all around. There will be more people voting in DEM primaries, because they don't plan on voting Repub. This means that new DEMs have a better shot in the primaries. Because lots of people are disgusted w/congress altogether, they are looking for change. I suspect there will be DEM incumbents that are defeated in the primaries because they haven't done enough to stop the war or impeach.

But there must be another choice running against them. Choice is always good.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 02:02 AM
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21. K&R n/t
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