this story just posted on yahoo news-"Iran running 3000 centrifuges"

[w8liftinglady]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070902/wl_nm/iran_nuclear_centrifuges_dc_3;_ylt=Apf9j1Y7LETKZcYGRpleE850WnwV
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran is running more than 3,000 centrifuges used to enrich uranium and is installing more every week, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Sunday, in comments likely to fuel Western fears Tehran is seeking an atomic bomb.

Western experts say 3,000 machines running smoothly for long periods at supersonic speeds could make enough enriched uranium for an atomic bomb in about a year, if Iran wanted, and form the basis for "industrial-scale" production of nuclear fuel.


I don't know what to believe anymore.

[lligrd]

1. And So It Begins???

As promised.

[seemslikeadream]

2. and so it goes.............

[niyad]

3. didn't the IAEA just say that something like that wasn't the case?

[EFerrari]

4. YES THEY DID. THIS IS A LIE.

Sorry to yell.

[PearliePoo2]

15. yes it is.

Just like WMDs and mushroom clouds. Now the idiot has labeled Iraq's Army as terrorists.
Guess he figures that label gives him free reign to drop bombs on anyone.
The Decider is ratcheting up the rhetoric, beating the drums and the worthless media isn't asking any questions.
My nephew is on his THIRD tour of Afghanistan and he is in the NAVY!
He usually is on carriers running aircraft maintenance. If he writes me that he is being transferred back onto a ship, I'll take that as a huge clue that the shit is hitting the fan.
He is supposed to be home in 90 days and then he's getting OUT.
Impeach.

[w8liftinglady]

6. apparently,that isn't the rhetoric Bush wants to hear

[cali]

7. Here's what the IAEA said:

PARIS, Aug. 30 -- The United Nations nuclear watchdog agency gave an upbeat assessment of Iranian cooperation with international inspectors in a new report Thursday that could make it more difficult for the United States to win tougher U.N. sanctions against Iran.

The report by the International Atomic Energy Agency in Vienna also concluded that while Iran continues to enrich uranium in violation of U.N. Security Council resolutions, its fuel enrichment plant has produced "well below the expected quantity for a facility of this design." The quality of the uranium also was lower than expected, the IAEA said.


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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/30/AR2007083000460.html?hpid=sec-world

[w8liftinglady]

8. so...did Ahmadinejad really say this,or is it manufactured?

[cali]

11. Really say what?

Iran has denied that this development is for anything other than peaceful means.

[Coexist]

21. YES they DID.

[Botany]

5. Is Judy Miller writing again?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

9. Any nation that has been threatened by outside forces, and having

seen what happened to Baghdad/Iraq would seek some sort of deterrent so they don't end up the same.

[spanone]

10. is karl writing for reuters now?

[Forkboy]

12. 3000 Centrifuges would make a good band name.

[Subdivisions]

13. "By November, or December at the latest,

we should be able to see whether the Iranians are sticking to their promises. If they fail to do this, Tehran would be missing a great chance -- perhaps its last," ElBaradei said.

So, November or December, eh? I don't think so. If an Iran attack comes, I think it will be sooner than that. Failing sooner, then that's about right I guess. Seems they would want as much time post-attack to nurture their master plan of privitizing and oil siezure.

[niyad]

14. how many centrifuges does the US have? I mean, 3,000 sounds so unlikely.

[Bitwit1234]

16. CNN put it up some time ago as breaking news...

[depakid]

28. Of course they did- they're the standard bearer for yellow journalism

or at least, they like to think they are. Their American versions are actually little more than tabloids.

[knitter4democracy]

17. Sounds like saber-rattling to me

Tehran wants to be the strongman so badly that I think they lie just to make everyone take them seriously. Saddam did the same thing. I say we ignore them for awhile and see what happens.

[aquart]

22. This guy is their George.

He's basically yelling "Bomb me!"

Which could be considered the equivalent to "Bring it on."

My deep sympathies to the Iranian people.

[sandnsea]

18. USEC American Centrifuge Plant

In Paducah KY. IIRC, there are different centrifuges for power and bomb uranium. That was the dispute about the Iraqi centrifuges, again, IIRC.

http://www.usec.com/v2001_02/HTML/Aboutusec_centrifuge.asp

[w8liftinglady]

19. My concern is that this story will be construed like these:

http://www.globalexchange.org/countries/mideast/iraq/1448.html
http://www.military.com/features/0,15240,127051,00.html?ESRC=topstories.RSS
http://100777.com/node/576
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/ap-is-busted-uses-bogus-source-for.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1130-07.htm
http://cuttingedge.org/news/n2127.cfm
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/9226/
etc,ad nauseum

[blogslut]

20. That's just Ahmadinejad blowing smoke

up Duba's butt.

The article goes on to say:

But an International Atomic Energy Agency report issued on Friday said Iran remained well short of 3,000 centrifuges and that its rate of enrichment was still far below capacity.

The report also indicated the pace of centrifuge installation had slowed markedly since April, when Ahmadinejad first announced "industrial" capacity.

[blues90]

23. Here's what troubles me about this entire issue .

There is all the talk about Iran building up nuclear power whether it is believed to be for a power source or a bomb . Ok , what is to keep Iran from acquiring a bomb from any number of countries , for all we know they may already have a few .

This is not to say I agree with bombing Iran it is only meant to put out all possibilities and to simple ask why all the focus is on Irans effort to build a bomb of their own .

I already have the sinking feeling that there will be an attack on Iran based on bushs speech last week and the many articals by reliable sources that only seem to increase this talk rather than discount it as simply conspiracy theory .

I also don't think this pending attack depends on the election time slot , what purpose would this serve , bush or cheney don't care about polls or elections in 2008 . And if this is to keep bush in power then there is no reason to wait they can do this anytime and for all we know the day may be already set .

How much do we really know , there will be no warning to the public , it will just happen like 9/11 .

[w8liftinglady]

24. That's my concern-the facts are being twisted to justify nuking Iran

since we don't have the troops to actually fight over there,and "complete the mission" in Iraq.

[blues90]

26. I tend to feel that

With all I've read and what we have seen even here in New Orleans that lives mean nothing to this admin . I doubt the number 1500 is even a true number of deaths in New Orleans . I doubt the true number of troops deaths in Iraq are real .

It seems apparent that death is not the issue of ths crime family and the lives of people in Iran or the result of an attack on Iran will have on the troops in Iraq means anything to these freaks and war mongers .

They seem very willing to sacrifice whatever it takes to promote their corporate interests .

I doubt one cent of the last war funding went to Iraq for reconstruction or troop supplies , i think it's all for the Iran attack . Otherwise the troops would have what they need by now , it's not a production issue as we are told that's just another lie . what checks and balances are there in place to account for where this money is going ?

[krispos42]

25. This is sure is a good thing Iran is cooperating with the IAEA

I doubt that it will matter though, because the popular "truthiness" is that Ahmahdinejad just can't wait to fire a short-range nuke at Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, and give a couple of more to Al-Qaeda so they can vaporize New York City.

VIENNA, Austria - The International Atomic Energy Agency on Thursday reported "significant" cooperation from Iran with its nuclear probe and noted that Tehran had slowed uranium enrichment - assessments that could hamper U.S. hopes for new U.N. sanctions.

Iran said the report proved it was the target of unfair U.S. attacks. But Washington and its allies said it did not change the need for more U.N. Security Council penalties.

IAEA Deputy Director-General Olli Heinonen highlighted the importance of Tehran's cooperation, noting that its past stonewalling had triggered Security Council sanctions in the first place. But he cautioned that Iran still needed to prove it would abide by its commitments.

<snip>

Repeating the findings of the Iran-IAEA cooperation plan, the report - to be considered by the 35-nation IAEA board at a meeting starting Sept. 10 - said the agency felt that information provided by Iran on past small-scale plutonium experiments had "resolved" agency concerns about the issue.

<more>

http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/08/30/ap4069796.html

Making weapons-grade uranium-235 is a matter of time. The centrifuges can make a lot of U₂₃₅ enriched to only 10% and use it in nuclear power plants, or they can make a little of U₂₃₅ enriched to 90%, suitable for a nuclear bomb.

It's like a distillary: Any single plant can make a lot of 80-proof vodka or a little of 160-proof Everclear. It depends on how many times you process it.

[Igel]

30. It's a conundrum.

Do we believe El-Baradei's report, based on what cooperation's been extended to the IAEA?

Or do we believe Ahmedinejad's statements, based on what cooperation's been extended to his government?

Elbaradei wants to avoid confrontation; he'll play down anything he can. Ahmedinejad wants to play up confrontation; he'll exaggerate anything he can. On the other hand, just because that's what we could expect doesn't mean that's what we can assume is the case. It's quite possible for the truth to be told, no down-playing or exaggerating involved.

The scientists may want to not exacerbate things. They may be completely forthcoming to the IAEA but not quite honest to their superiors ... an old ruse to cover their butts and work in accordance with their own conscience or out of fear. Or ... they may be completely forthcoming with their government, in accordance with their conscience and duties, but not be quite honest with nosey outsiders.

Give me a side to argue for, and I can do it.

Even the numbers of centrifuges in operation differ. Elbaradei ... 2k, with 650 or so in progress; Ahmedinejad, 3k up and running. You'd think they'd be able to at least agree on how to count. But, no.

[C_U_L8R]

27. A thousand points of hype

Der New World Order goosesteps onward.

[BlooInBloo]

29. Bomb, bomb, bomb.... bomb, bomb Iran.... You gotta love warmongers.

[sarcasmo]

31. PROPAGANDA