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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 09:37 PM
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How safe ( I use that term loosely) are we ?
I have no idea why I was thinking about this today since I am not really afraid to die , however it stuck me since 9/11 what has really changed other than to create more enemies across the globe .

I'm certain the government has their plans and safety nets all in place and all with place cards at the table . I'm certain bush has more extreme security than any ( another loose term applied here ) president we have ever had before . He even has his own toilet that travels with him .

so what have we got besides miles of open borders that anyone with the determination could setup something similar to a race rally where instead of passing a baton one would pass a dirty bomb or some highly toxic chemical . This could be done on foot or anyone of assorted ways .

So we sit here , you and I and everyone else concerned about trucks from Mexico allowed all across the US , not that this should not be a concern , but it is made and framed into a immigrant plight or racial issue which in a very real sense this is partly true but I do have to wonder what sort of mind games are behind this sort of thinking all by the courtesy of our very own government .

I am on Barbra Boxers email list , a few months back I got an email telling the story of how after two attempts with much time in between that , here it comes another loose term ( homeland security ) has no plans what so ever if there were a major earthquake in the state of sunny hot calif .

A similar thing was expressed by Greg Palast not long ago about plans for New Orleans to this day don't exist .

We now know out food is not checked or labled , drugs came come from many sources without the discount attached , and petfood and toys and even clothing contain lead and or who knows what that can either put you on the road to death or at the very least kill you within days if the mix is just right for the condition .

Oh , we can stock up on bottled water ? or we can stock up on canned foods also questionable contents , it sort of depends doesn't it . and we can stoke up on batteries and candles and what ever else we may need yet we are told a supply for 36 hours , not much time really if you think about it .

So my question is , how safe do you really feel ? Not that any of this concern is really new but how many have their 36 hour supply stock and how many have tied things down in case of an earthquake . I'll be honest , I have done nothing other than to avoid certain canned foods that I would not normally eat and they sit in a cabinet ready someday perhaps for that time when that gross looking clam soup or cream of whatever may come in handy .
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 09:43 PM
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1. We are only as safe as bu$h/cheney want us to be
If they need to start another occupation they will just kill several thousand Americans in a "terror attack."

Then the media will help them get the sheep in line for another slaughter.

The keeping us safer mantra is all an illusion.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:08 PM
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7.  It certainly is an illusion
That's what makes it such a sick twisted joke .
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 09:43 PM
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2. I feel "Countdown To Looking Glass" Kinda safe right now. n/t
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 09:46 PM
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3. The truth is no safer than pre 9/11/07 in fact it's not the outside
forces that we are in the most danger from it's Homeland Security and FEMA.

These organizations have intentionally weakend the ability of states citizens and volunteers from other states to help in times of disaster. They prevented Ambulances from getting the the NOLA airport to transport sick people out because they didn't have the right badges. They stopped Dr's at the borders because they didn't have the right badges. 1800 people died because there were not enough resources and FEMA and Homeland Security didn't respond for 4 days.

No this is intentional and criminal.

The truth is groups like DU should think about Disaster Recovery we are our own community aren't we? We should have alternate sites around the country...for example if someone has Farmland etc...where survivors of a disaster can go...for safety. We have people from all walks of life and different career paths that are capable of contributing.

No I am not paranoid, I consider myself a realist...only States and State Citizens can help their neighbors.....State Governers should form their own Tri State etc Disaster Recovery Plans if they don't already have one. The Government organizations at this point cannot be trusted. Just sayin...
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 09:53 PM
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4. Not safe
Edited on Sun Sep-02-07 09:57 PM by Whoa_Nelly
But am more angry about all the BUshit, than I am scared.


Who will stop the madness iof King George?

Who will stop the insane greed of the PNAC?


Yeah...the other thing I feel, at times, is a surrender to hopelessness when it comes to the near future of our nation and our planet.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 09:57 PM
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5. Is it SAFE yet????


How many more teeth do we have to have drilled?
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Rick Myers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:01 PM
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6. I keep a 'bugout' bag handy at all times!!
I refresh the supplies in it occassionaly. About 4 days food for 2 people, some water, about $160 in ones, fives and tens, all medications, medical kit including ability to do stiches, real pain meds, mil-spec flashlights, spare batteries, police/aircraft scanner, emergency blankets, special forces knife and ammo. 4 days water stored in car.


It might sound estreme, but you never know. We had a bridge collapse in our backyard last month.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 11:08 PM
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11. So do I
and I keep six months of food in the pantry plus a keep a garden. Nothing in life is safe. I worry more about natural disasters than I do about "terrorism".
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:15 PM
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8. The economy scares me the most.
How can we not suffer from the housing bust?
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:21 PM
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9.  That too , it's all part of their grand design .
There are lots of ways to suffer or die in the end .
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-02-07 10:22 PM
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10. I feel as safe as I ever have - the biggest threat to me is the cops and the governement.
Edited on Sun Sep-02-07 10:23 PM by BlooInBloo
EDIT: By orders of magnitude.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-03-07 12:46 AM
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12. No one is ever totally safe.
There will always be some kind of terrorist attack. More people are killed yearly on the interstate highways, robberies and murders than all of the wars, terrorist attacks and tainted food put together. Death changes nothing. It makes the corporations more wealthy. The only death that changes anything is the kind that is publicized to control public sentiment. There is a 'Madison Avenue' approach to what deaths are publicized. We live in a culture of death controlled by the criminals in the White House put there by people that think killing is the ends that justifies the means and the answer to all problems. :dem:
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