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Mon Sep-03-07 06:21 AM
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I don't see Hillary pulling out of Iraq |
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if she becomes President. In fact, with the exception of Kucininch and maybe Richardson, I don't see any of them accomplishing that. Sure, they'll all draw down troops or redeploy them, but I fear the Occupation will continue. Just look at the new US embassy for a clue as to our future in Iraq.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:23 AM
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:28 AM
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2. Yep, they won't want to appear "weak on terra" |
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So they will continue the war in Iraq, quite possibly until '12. It is the same old story that kept us in Vietnam. God forbid that the Dems appear "weak" on anything military, therefore they go overboard to compensate. Hell, even Bill did this which is why we ended up with no peace dividend at the end of the Cold War, and why he continued sanctions against Iraq and bombing that country thrice a week. The 'Pugs and the militarists have got the Dems buffaloed into not doing the right thing. Thus they contninue to back the MI complex also. Insanity.
What's going to be sad are the excuses for the Dems that people will come up with around here for why they don't end the war.
And Dems are wondering why people are going Green.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:29 AM
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3. "If George Bush won't end this war, I will." - HRC |
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She's the only candidate who has demanded to see the Pentagon's plan for withdrawing the troops.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:33 AM
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5. That's just telling dem activists what they demand to hear |
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but hasn't she also stated that she'd keep some troops there? She won't end it.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:44 AM
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8. " think we have remaining vital national security interests in Iraq” |
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"she said, which require the continued presence of American troops. " < http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/15/the_skinny/main2572508.shtml>
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Mon Sep-03-07 07:21 AM
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10. She can demand all she wants |
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She knows the Pentagon won't give up any plans (they don't exist!). She can talk with the best of them because that's what her advisors tell her to say to look tough.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:31 AM
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4. I think she will have to respond to whatever balance of power we can manage to elect |
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just like any other Democrat.
I agree, though, that she won't likely be a force for clearing all of the U.S. troops, bases, embassy nonsense, and moneygrubbers out of Iraq on her own initiative. That could be more than aggravating if she faced another Congress which lacked a veto-proof majority of Democrats.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:38 AM
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7. As CinC, she wouldn't have to respond |
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She could simply order the troops to pack up and come home.
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Mon Sep-03-07 07:35 AM
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11. I meant absent of her own initiative which I think tends towards remaining |
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in Iraq with some sort of military presence for an extended time, no matter how much she insists she wants an end. I don't see ANY need for U.S. military meddling or assistance to any Iraqi regime, now or in the future. She still hedging like she doesn't want to completely let go of that military hammer, and that's just not what I want out of my president. I get the feeling, also, that she tends to go more hawkish than necessary just to appease those who doubt her ability or resolve in our national defense.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:33 AM
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6. SOS and 'business as usual'............. |
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I thought Democrats represented and wanted a new direction with substantial change.
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Mon Sep-03-07 06:50 AM
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Pull out of condoms, even if he may never have been in one?
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Mon Sep-03-07 01:45 PM
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accepted money from Rupert Murdoch, she is committed to staying in the Mid East because Murdoch wants control of communications in the Mid East. Plus she's a DLCer.
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Mon Sep-03-07 01:51 PM
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13. Hillary will not change the status quo on many things |
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if her actions up until now are any indication of how she will act in the future. Also, I'm dismayed at how many of her contributors are corporations whose agenda would not be served by a Kucinich or an Edwards.
I do believe the government would be run more efficiently and that she would appoint people capable of doing the job, not because they are her cronies.
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Mon Sep-03-07 01:54 PM
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Maybe not helter skelter at all possible speed with no regard for protecting our people as they withdraw, but I think she'd pull us out sooner rather than later. I think any of the Democratic candidates would. She might not be the quickest, but I'll bet she'd do it, and a whole lot more quickly than any Republican would.
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Mon Sep-03-07 02:03 PM
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15. Moot point - she's never going to get the chance other than as just another voice in the Senate |
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