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tired_old_fireman (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:08 PM Original message |
What is wrong with mandatory check ups? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Suggestions" are not "mandatory". |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. People just like making shit up to bitch about. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Maybe true, but there is a power imbalance in any relationship |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. heh. Mandatory vaccinations, education... there's always someone who'll bitch. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Just goes to show |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Yup. "Why doesn't governmentt provide healthcare?? (whine)" turns into.... |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. LMAO!!! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
68. Oh, please. Women have plenty of medical "probings" long before they reach 50. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
165. GAWD I hate it when men complain about a FINGER UP THE ASS |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #165 |
170. Isn't that the bestest?!? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. OMG supernova |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #172 |
178. Owie! |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #178 |
184. every time I get one |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #184 |
187. Wish they's switch the SoC to MRIs |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #187 |
194. haven't heard but it does sound promising |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #170 |
186. one tip no one ever told me, if I may digress |
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Bake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #165 |
275. I just had my annual prostate exam last Friday. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #26 |
57. Nah. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #26 |
261. BINGO |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
325. How dare you suggest integrity in my lifestyle? |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
3. sounds fascist, dictaturial |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't trust the medical community and have good reason |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Amen to that! |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #31 |
72. Oh, c'mon. This is semantics. Edwards needs better terminology. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #72 |
188. forgive me for missing |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
75. Agree about mammography |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #75 |
100. I wanted to have a sonogram |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #100 |
191. My dog barked. It rained. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #75 |
185. I had a neighbor |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
193. We've always been told |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think at 30 yrs old |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. Consider what he is going through right now. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
63. so she had the money and didn't get HER annual checkups? |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
82. Evidently. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
284. yeah, just like millions of people..... |
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partylessinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
73. This copycat "runtothedoctor becausesomeone noteablegot adisease" |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Are you by any chance running |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #73 |
84. Well, I think when things get in the news it reminds people |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
83. Not necessarily so. Breast cancer lump size doesn't correlate to the lethality of the tumor. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. Well. EE said she hadn't had one in several years |
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partylessinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #83 |
96. It was recently stated by a commentator that Elizabeth Edwards took |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #96 |
320. No, I don't, but that's only based on what her doctors say |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #83 |
103. Excellent post! Thank you!!!! |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #6 |
181. Although I sympathize with Elizabeth Edwards, |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #181 |
321. Funny thing is, I had a doctor who advised me AGAINST monthly BSE. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #321 |
323. I think your doctor is nuts, |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
7. I can think of a few reasons |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. exactly. In addition, such mandatory medical survelliance |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. Reason #2 is my big concern |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. And while we're in the doc's office |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Don't forget the outsourceing of transcription and much lab work analysis |
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Lady President (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
88. A couple more for your list |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. It's standard preventative care |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
50. Good points....just gonna say, some countries |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I think the people not whining here |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
78. The whole thing about a good socialized system is that you CAN'T |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Precisely my point |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
97. And those segments have a choice..... |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #97 |
182. I could understand the mandatory |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #182 |
190. It seems there are |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #55 |
174. Oh, is that why we're "bitching"? |
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tired_old_fireman (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
81. I think you're onto something |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
279. Not if it's mandatory. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
9. "Hunh! Nobody gonna tell ME what to do!" |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Yep. But it's only individualism and liberty for themselves |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
177. Uh huh. It's "Mostly Men" who have these crazy ideas about soveriegnity over their own bodies. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #177 |
304. Trust me they will take my reproductive rights away LONG before they take your porn |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #304 |
318. Who brought up porn? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. People are asking for |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. Apparently alot of people here think you can't have one without the other. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
89. But those of us who don't buy into the |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
92. My brother, a lifelong Republican, believed that. At age 67 he died suddenly |
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Nutmegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #92 |
253. I'm so sorry. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #253 |
254. Thanks. My point wasn't to beg for sympathy but to show the ultimate |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #9 |
163. What if the mandatory doctor visit comes with a mandatory piss test/hair analysis for drug use or |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #163 |
285. what if aliens came and zapped my city |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #285 |
286. Right. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #286 |
287. nobody is telling you what to do with your body |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #287 |
288. I'm not ripping on Edwards. I'm responding to a poster who claimed that ANY wariness |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #288 |
289. I saw John Edwards on CSPAN being asked about that plant |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #289 |
290. You want to know the one thing that's keeping me from voting for Edwards right now? It's not this. |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #290 |
291. for what its worth, I think Elizabeth is open to it |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #291 |
294. I know. I liked her answer. |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
10. Another viewpoint |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. But isn't that the point at which individual judgment comes into play? |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
24. Totally agree with you |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. (1) describes too many American doctors today. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. I haven't had that experience |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I support universal healthcare, just not Edwards's plan. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. They are also in bed with big pharma. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. Yep. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #49 |
281. You are incorrect. It is illegal to accept vacations, gifts, tickets to sporting events, etc. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #281 |
297. And if you think it doesn't happen |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. A few things |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. ... |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. You're not understanding |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. You're not understanding. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
143. Actually, yes I do |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #143 |
149. You are really dense. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #149 |
156. No, I am not dense |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #149 |
210. "If the average murderer were more foresighted, he/she would become a doctor. "? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #210 |
223. Doctors not only get away with killing people, they keep |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. Did you know there are a hell of a lot of doctors who do not make hundreds of thousands/yr? |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
189. You have had very different experiences than mine |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #189 |
211. It's good that you have family members skeptical of doctors. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #211 |
212. Of course drs that commit medical malpractice need to be held accountable, so do lawyers that do |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #212 |
215. You don't know that. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #215 |
222. Doctors who want to help people are mostly incompetent. Wild. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #222 |
225. If you think that's a book review, you really need to work on reading comprehension. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #225 |
227. Guess you didn't look at your own link, or maybe you missed the reviews |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #227 |
228. Look again. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #228 |
229. Look again. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #229 |
232. Those are on the side of the page. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. "If you think that's a book review, you really need to work on reading comprehension." Yup. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #233 |
235. The reviews are not the primary text of the page. That's really dishonest. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #235 |
240. You give me a link with a book clip and reviews on it. The reviews are there. On that web page. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #240 |
242. Do you know what a book review is? |
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likesmountains 52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #215 |
236. ok, AGW..how many doctor-patient interactions are there per day in the US? Any what % are what you |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #236 |
238. Even if most MDs weren't incompetent, careless or both, there are clearly too many bad MDs. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #238 |
241. Of course THAT is not controversial. What is is your broadbrush insulting all doctors |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #241 |
243. It's entirely justified, though I haven't went to the trouble of citing research here. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #243 |
245. Broadbrush insulting ALL doctors is justified? And citing NO source is ok? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #245 |
246. You've ignored the other citation. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
99. Doctors in general don't care about you, only want money &prestige?That's why they're doctors??? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. No way? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. Wow, another nasty broad brush post against doctors. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. That is really quite dumb. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. Hahahahahahahahaha. You MUST be a lawyer. Right? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Yep, it's those evil trial lawyers who |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Where is that number from? Link to reputable source please. I knew you were a lawyer. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. The Medical Malpractice Myth published by University of Chicago Press. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. A book. OK. How about something that is provable? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #124 |
138. It's a scholarly work, not a "pop-book." |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #138 |
206. Let me try again, cutting out the offending word. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #206 |
216. I already provided a link. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #216 |
220. You provided a link to a review, clip from book. That is all. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #220 |
230. It is the first 14 pages of the book. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #230 |
231. So I guess all you have to back up that oft quoted number is this book. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #231 |
234. Yet again... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #108 |
134. lack of will power explains all of everyone's problems, doncha know? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #134 |
144. When I say, |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #144 |
150. uh huh; and when you say that people in France and New Zealand |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. Threads digress. That's fairly common. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #144 |
204. You strongly state that opinion and now say you are referencing another thread? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #204 |
217. Why make references to anything? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #217 |
221. Forum posting 101 |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #221 |
237. ... |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #102 |
130. That's in the running for the silliest post I've seen on DU in 5 years. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. And they lack will-power. |
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likesmountains 52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #130 |
139. Not to mention they are mostly "unqualified, incompetent and generally dumb."..from another thread.. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #139 |
155. You should get the reference if you've read that thread. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #139 |
207. Did this poster really say that about doctors? whew. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #130 |
154. You don't get the reference. Don't worry about it. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #154 |
208. We don't get the reference for a broadbrush insult, so don't worry about it? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #208 |
213. People who haven't heard Beethoven's "Hammerklavier" sonata |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #213 |
214. People who broadbrush insult and try to condesendingly pass it off? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #214 |
218. It was a not-so-subtle reference to a poster in a thread about college loans. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #218 |
226. Carrying a flame war to another thread to continuing insulting here is not a good idea. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:14 PM Response to Reply #226 |
239. It wasn't a "flame war." |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #226 |
296. Always remember..."Ignore" is your friend. n/t |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #296 |
316. Yeah, sometimes it is worth it, sometimes not. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Have you read the book |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
67. all one has to do is look at the list of "illnesses" ascribed to menopause--and the oh-so-convenient |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #10 |
272. In many ways I agree with him-yet, for me, the benefits outweigh this. |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
11. my solution: just opt out if you don't want to deal with regular health care |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. I was thinking similar |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. and look, i hate going to dentists, doctos, as much as anyone. Especially because I'm overweight. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. totally agree with you |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
37. Yeah, and for those people that opt out... |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. I would answer no |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #11 |
65. If I opt out will I have to still pay |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. i think it's fair that if you opt out, you pay more into the system |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
140. Most of the people on this board have never |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. I want private insurers GONE |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Did I say Private Insurance? |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #146 |
160. That's what it sounds like |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #145 |
179. I know exactly what you're saying |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #140 |
169. Germans are not exactly poverty stricken by their tax load, the way people here are when |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #169 |
180. Of course they live well |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. So why don't they change the system, if it is so bad? Or get on a plane and come to the U.S. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. Can I opt out of paying part of the military's budget because I oppose the Iraq War? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. I think it's a total lack of trust... |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
14. I think there's a better way to do it than make it "mandatory" -- |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. I think the big babies |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
74. And such people create a demand for more doctors, |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
95. OMG, I'm a big baby! I'll throw out my blood pressure pills, cancel my |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
195. Obviously you have never had RLS. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
20. Mandatory is what's wrong with it. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. When doctors go on strike mortality rates go down..... |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Yes, and that has been well documented in both France and Israel |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
90. and labs are virtually without |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
98. No they don't realize |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
110. You've got to be kidding. France has been cited by the World Health Organization of |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #110 |
127. Exactly my point though |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #127 |
157. well, I don't know if you can attribute it directly to doctors. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #157 |
196. That doesn't make any sense....... |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:35 AM Response to Reply #196 |
251. Yes, but a statistic isn't a statistic until it is known. |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #157 |
205. being diagnosed because of mandatory check up provides |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:43 AM Response to Reply #205 |
252. "In the long run, we're all dead, " said economist J. M. Keynes. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Two books you might find interesting: |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
91. I'll check those out. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #91 |
247. How did they almost kill you? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #247 |
258. Overprescribing drugs |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #258 |
283. The same thing happened to me. I was almost killed by doctors on three different occasions. |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #283 |
302. I almost died the night of my back |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #258 |
303. My father-in-law |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #23 |
133. That people without access to health care are healthier than those with health care? |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
203. Then we should cancel Medicare and Medicaid, right? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. IMO she who has the gold makes the rules and if govt pays for health care, it has the gold. Those |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. If they refuse the mandated inspections |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. "treatment at the emergency room"? It would be up to each individual to obtain insurance or pay for |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. so it would be the same as it is now. nt |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
269. What is those with the gold decide to add drug testing to these physicals? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
34. We're adults, with free will. I don't appreciate being treated like a child |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #34 |
257. it's not so much that you are a "child" |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
36. Checkups might be ok--mandatory preventive care, not |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
38. There's a relatively simple solution |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:52 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. That's an idea. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #38 |
125. Will that apply to the poor and homeless as well? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #125 |
128. well I guess not |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
42. But they'll put CHIPS in our ass! |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
43. Let's FIND something wrong with you |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:12 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. The testing merry-go-round |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
119. You're objecting to actually getting a thorough physical when a physical was required? |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
48. In the future... |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
61. tell me which of the civilized countries that has universal health care has such a demand, please |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
116. None of them. This is a hysterical response and it's stupid. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
69. Two Words: Tuskegee Study |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. I wouldn't be surprised. |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
77. Nothing's wrong with them. They're a great idea |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #77 |
101. Since mandatory health care is just impossible in a free society, John Edwards' verbiage |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #77 |
106. Oh, sweet Jesus..... |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
113. You want people "FORCED" to be responsible??? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #113 |
123. I'm not sure..... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #113 |
129. Yes you are still on DU. Lots of people with different views here. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #77 |
136. "Ve haff vays of making you responsible". |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
151. Wow what a world to live in |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #151 |
197. Truly..... |
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TheFriendlyAnarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #77 |
202. "If people don't want to be responsible, then they should be forced to be." |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #202 |
209. Hey, I'm from the socialist side of the progressivism, it's totally cool for us |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
80. If You Made Breathing Mandatory, Some People Here Would Immediately Hold Their Breath. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
109. it's that whole bullshit that somehow the government is alien from American life. |
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TheFriendlyAnarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #80 |
142. Now come on man. Here me out for a second. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #142 |
201. You Don't Even Know What the Plan Would Be Yet. |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #201 |
308. I'm sorry, but anyone saying, "The government has no right to not let me be sick!" is just asinine. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #308 |
315. You Forgot Your Hat: |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:49 PM Response to Reply #315 |
317. I know you are, but what am I? |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
198. No, it's children who |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #198 |
259. children often rebel; |
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The Vinyl Ripper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #198 |
324. You don't have kids, eh? n/t |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:42 AM Response to Reply #80 |
264. Indeed. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:12 PM Response to Original message |
85. tell me which of the civilized countries that has universal health care has such a demand, please |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
87. free universal healthcare -- and someone is going to make me get a check up? -- |
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tired_old_fireman (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Thanks. I think you said it better than I did. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
104. People may be outraged about it, but it ain't true. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
105. If it's "mandatory," that means someone is going to have to keep |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. Not to worry! They can just "Chip" us all, when our "chip" number doesn't show for an exam in a year |
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qdemn7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
107. So if mandatory checkups |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
111. It needs to be worded differently. Perhaps, "Anyone wishing to have a yearly physical may do so, |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. I worked for feds at a state fed building doing check ups.Every employee could get 1 every 4 yrs. |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
118. Would the Mandatory Check Up include Drug Testing? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #118 |
126. Fair questions, but Edwards didn't mention any of those. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
132. oh, for pity's sake |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #132 |
147. Foolish mock outrage on DU? |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
135. Why are mandatory check ups necessary? In Canada, we have a pretty solid healthcare system, but the |
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TheFriendlyAnarchist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
137. I'm against it because it is my right to decide if I want medical care. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
141. just a bit of fact, to go with the phobia |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #141 |
158. But, but, |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #141 |
164. It's obviously from what you've posted, that he means everyone will be required to PAY |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #164 |
168. I wish to hell I knew |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #168 |
176. More than a little off the wall if you ask me...n/t |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
148. I'd want to know how any pre-existing matters might be used against me if any... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #148 |
159. in a universal health care system |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. my sense is that HMO's & underwriters here will find a way to lobby such... |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. I'm sorta in the same boat brigit |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #166 |
171. i'm feeling you, let's muscle on in, but this is funny... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
152. It's the mandatory part. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #152 |
162. do you really, really believe there's a mandatory part??? |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #162 |
167. THANK YOU |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #167 |
263. Edward's plan is corporate America spin |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #162 |
173. Of course. As I have said elsewhere, this "mandatory" thing makes no sense. |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #173 |
192. Apparently, according to some, health care is so dangerous to your health we all should be against |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #192 |
250. Yeah, how dare he? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #162 |
175. I have no opinion at present. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #175 |
265. it was his intention in his 2004 plan |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #162 |
255. Has somebody posted this information separately? This is good stuff. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:39 AM Response to Reply #255 |
256. okay ... I'll do it |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #256 |
282. Thanks! It is easy to get lost in the opinions when people start arguing over what they "think" |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #162 |
298. It would be easier if Edwards supporters weren't vehemently defending mandatory checkups |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #298 |
311. Sometimes they are defending mandatory checkups |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #311 |
322. It's not only disgusting, |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
199. It's not about mandatory check ups, its about them hating edwards |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #199 |
244. No, it's about mandatory |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:55 PM Response to Reply #199 |
248. Simply Not True |
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Crunchy Frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #199 |
249. Then why are there Edwards supporters on this thread |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
200. In the Japanese national health care system |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
219. It probably takes less time out of your year than un/buckling your seatbelt every time you get |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
260. What amazes me is that there is even a debate about this necessary issue. |
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Katherine Brengle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
262. People want all the perks with none of the obligations. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #262 |
273. Yes but...there must be a serious privacy firewall |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
266. I think it's a good idea. |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
267. "Anthem Healthcare". "Novartis Pharmaceuticals". |
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ryanus (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
268. "cry every time someone tells us what to do." |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #268 |
292. Then make them and pay for them yourself. That is your right. |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
270. Uh, first off, we have a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to own firearms... |
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Extend a Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
271. no thank you |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #271 |
301. Why yes there is way |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
274. YOu can CONTACT Edwards here: |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #274 |
293. You know he never said anything about mandatory check ups, right? n/t |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #293 |
299. Yes he did say mandatory check ups. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
276. The fact that someone is here asking this is scary |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
277. What if the provider list is wide and varied? |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
278. The problem is obvious: |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #278 |
300. Exactly! |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
280. IMO I think it could be a pre-condition for receiving universal health care |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #280 |
307. here's an even better option |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #307 |
313. No! |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #313 |
314. apparently so |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #307 |
326. But then the conformists.... |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #326 |
327. Geez, where is it anyway? |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
295. How in the world would they ever enforce "Mandatory" checkups? |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
305. "mandatory" is a fascist directive |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #305 |
306. Bingo! |
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GreenArrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #305 |
309. seems like a simple enough proposition |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #309 |
312. "mandatory" IS authoritarian -- get that part straight |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
310. I honestly don't know. But I know that I'm uncomfortable with the idea. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
319. The mandatory part |
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