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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:12 AM
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Gore breaks silence on media coverage of 2000 election RAW STORY/Vanity Fair
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 09:35 AM by kpete
Gore breaks silence on media coverage of 2000 election RAW STORY
Published: Tuesday September 4, 2007

For the first time Al Gore talks about the effect the press had on him and on the 2000 presidential election, telling Vanity Fair contributing editor Evgenia Peretz http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2007/10/gore200710 that he doesn’t blame the media for his loss and that he accepts responsibility for not being able to communicate more clearly with the public, according to a release from the magazine to RAW STORY Tuesday.

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“Modern politics seems to require and reward some capacities that I don’t think I have in abundance … such as a tolerance for … spin rather than an honest discussion of substance. Apparently, it comes easily for some people, but not for me,” Gore says.

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Asked about the debate coverage, Gore tells Peretz, “The sighs, the sighs, the sighs … Within 18 hours, they had turned perception around to where the entire story was about me sighing. And that’s scary. That’s scary.”

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Tipper Gore tells Peretz that following the loss, “we were roadkill … it took a long time to pick ourselves up from what happened.” Tipper also says that Al has made no moves that would suggest a run for the presidency, but adds that if he turned to her one night and said he had to run, she’d get on board, and they’d discuss how to approach it this time around, given what they’ve learned.

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more at:
http://rawstory.com//news/2007/Gore_breaks_silence_on_media_coverage_0904.html
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:30 AM
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1. Full article now up at Vanity Fair:
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:30 AM
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2. Interesting article.
K&R
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:55 AM
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3. I'm only half way through the VF article but it is calling out the real liars: Dowd, Connolly, Seely
and the others.

This is a great article.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:09 AM
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6. Dowd, Connolly, Seely --
None of them see themselves the way I see them:

Drenched in the blood of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis - the children...
Drenched in the blood of thousands of Americans - the towers, the troops, the military families...
Drenched in blood.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 12:09 PM
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8. Strange his 3 most vociferous critics were all women, isn't it? Maybe they
were jealous of Al and Tippers beautiful relationship and life together.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 04:05 PM
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23. More like strategy
All Dem men candidates are mysteriously stalked by angry GOP harridans who can get away with attacking manhood, military service and any other issue the GOP men are too chicken to try. It seems quite conscious and has been used in other venues of defense and attack. The GOP prefer women in long skirts not from any concern for modesty or conservative fashion but as a good place to hide behind. Coulter led the way in daring to call Kerry a coward.

I don't think enough Dems have awakened to how planned and perverse has been the systematic opposition to them. You can't play a game by accepting the cheaters' rules. Anything you try, you will lose. One need only place the objective qualities of candidates side by side to see the entire MSM is geared, poisoned or planned to defeat Democrats or any who oppose the GOP power machine or corporate interests. The group of reporters who jeered and mocked Gore in one famous incident when they were all watching him on TV is more important than the visible results of prejudice that frustrate naive Dem pols.

We have NO fair media forums, just spotty examples of liberal or fair reporting in a Corporate {Pravda lunge for GOP one party rule. As with election fraud one wonders if the pols even know how bad it really is in essence and performance.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:30 PM
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35. Maureen Dowd, Howard Fineman, Chris Matthews, Lou Dobbs, Brian Williams, Connolly, Seely.......
They're ALL complicit in MURDER, as far as I'm concerned.
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 02:35 AM
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44. I have a fantasy about being on Real Time with Dowd and shoving
some photos in her face and dare her to talk about "earth tones".
What a totally useless self absorbed POS she is.. Don't even get me started on the Spite Girls..
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 01:56 PM
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15. It's taking me a while to read the whole thing
I have to keep pausing because it's pissing me off so bad.

I want to write to all those so-called "reporters" and unleash my extended vocabulary of profanities on them. :grr:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:44 PM
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18. Write?
I had a fantasy of calling them and giving them an idea of what I think of them. Don't think it would help his campaign now tho. But when it starts and they try any of this shit - boy, they won't believe the storm that will follow.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:53 PM
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19. but (as the column noted) they've already started
where do you think that "Edwards haircut" bullshit comes from?
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 03:11 PM
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20. I'm going to keep a closer eye on these three
from now on. Thought Dowd had written an anti-bush book? As IndyOp says up thread, they all have blood on their hands.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:04 PM
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26. Maureen Dowd was fairly rightwing at that time; she had a conversion to very anti-Bush . . .. . .
Ironically, as she moved to the left and became very popular with NY Times readers -- along with Frank Rich -- the NY Times switched their columns to less read days and cut down on their appearances -- !!! Isn't that just what you do with a success?

Frank Rich got moved to the Arts Section -- !!!!

I didn't read Dowd before her left-wing conversion --
and I read so little of the NY Times now, I have no idea what she's writing about now -- ????

In fact, I think we're pretty close to the point where we will be giving up our NY Times subscription, completely -- !!!!

I'm at libraries quite often so I can always scan a few days of newspapers very quickly --
to see if I'm missing anything.

I have no idea who Connolly and Seely are -- but I haven't read the article yet.

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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 02:41 AM
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45. I appreciate that she has enough native intelligence to understand that
she needed to take a closer look at the issues and make an adjustment but it does not excuse her overall behavior. This isn't funny or snarky anymore. I feel the same way about her as I do about Sandra Day O'conner and her "see, I'm really a good guy" lecture tour. Too little too late.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 06:31 AM
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53. Dowd- like Dennis Miller- goes where the money is...
whores all.
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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 03:15 PM
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21. Ah, yes. But here's where a delicious sense of Karma comes into play
The internet, which the Honorable Al Gore was instrumental in creating, will have his back this time. Every year sees M$M ratings declining while more and more people get their news online. If these harpies/bloodsuckers tried to pull the same b*llsh*t this time around, the blogoshere would chew them up and spit them out. And we wouldn't have this tool if not for Al.

Run, Al, Run! :applause:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:10 PM
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27. Internet isn't really viable when election results move to TV . . . .
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 09:13 PM by defendandprotect
In fact, I was just thinking about this that we've even had the internet debate, so to speak.

But, when we get to the vote counting -- and election night coverage -- lots of attention returns again to MSM/network coverage.

And -- the idea that the League of Women Voters is shut out -- that we are continuing with black box voting -- !!!! Wow!!!

Or -- the dismissal of the EXIT POLLING -- ????

I was wondering how the internet might pick up these very valuable pieces and move more attention to the internet on election day/night --

It's a year still to the election, but I'd like to be able to stick with the internet totally on Election night.

I can still remember the odd feeling in my stomach when they took back the call of Florida for Gore -- and then called it for Bush!!!!

We were all 'ROADKILL' . . . . !!!!

We should be impeaching the Supreme5 . . . .

And 2004, when Kerry had been in a very strong lead and very optimistic perdictions, when suddenly Bush was winning -- ????? !!!!!

It's all a farce ---



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proud_Kucitizen Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:19 PM
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33. what about the real news network
has anyone heard if they are getting enough funding to be broadcasting soon and be fully operational by the time the primaries are over.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:12 PM
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38. They get 80% of the campaign money for TV ads -- though I never watch them . . . do you????
Yeah -- TV networks which run the commercials for candidates get 80% of the campaign money, supposedly . . .. !!!

So, they're kind of out of it when we talk about public financing of campaigns or free air time for candidates --

a bit biased --
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:36 PM
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36. AND....YouTube! YouTube wasn't around in 1999. Now, the real speeches/words actually USED, can be
online within hours. The LIES the reporters and MSM tell can be debunked almost instantly.:)
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:13 PM
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39. Can ALL of this be coordinated for internet Election coverage . . ..
Can we see it via internet TV -- ???

Especially where we can have a couple of screens up at same time -- ????

And, then have live reporting from bloggers all over the country -- ???

And --- WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED --- ????


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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:59 AM
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56. I have been having the same problem. When the VF article
appeared, I yell at son that you have to read this. He started after I did, and finished it way before I could. I couldn't even discuss it with him.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:57 AM
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4. Hmm, marking this for a later read
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:09 AM
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5. me too n/t
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:15 AM
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7. Damn my optimism
Why do I see this as the beginning of a campaign? As if he is already starting to respond and prepare for the press. Planting seeds? Why can't my hope die? :cry:
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 01:18 PM
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10. It may very well be so...
Its not too late for him to enter the race. They may be setting the media straight prior to re-entering the arena. Makes sense to me that they would do so. Sort of de-fanging these women before the fight.

Why let hope die when its still viable to hope? Come visit the Gore forum - we'll keep you company! :hug:
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NastyDiaper Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:48 PM
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30. Qft.
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 09:48 PM by NastyDiaper
" :cry: "
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 05:43 AM
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51. Or it may be his way of closing this chapter to move on
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 12:53 PM
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9. I don't know Mr. Gore, you always communicated very clearly to me
In my view it is the media, particularly in regards to their lack of repsonsibility in truly being a free press that educates rather than entertains that was, has been, and continues to be a chief accomplice in the decline of that honest discussion of substance.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 03:49 PM
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22. And thank you for your candor in this interview...
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 01:20 PM
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11. K&R
I'll read this later when I have more time. Thanks for pointing it out!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 01:20 PM
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12. This is a long overdue and outstanding column, well worth the read.
Thanks for the thread, kpete.:thumbsup:
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:54 PM
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32. Worth the read, but a read that really makes you mad!
I found it a tough read because it brought alive the anger over the way Gore was treated.

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tofurkey Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:38 PM
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37. That's how I felt reading his The Assault on Reason
Although none of it came as a surprise, seeing it laid out factually in black and white was infuriating. It was really hard to get through. I found it similar to watching videos of animal abuse and exploitation. Disturbing but necessary..in order to see the truth.

Everyone should read The Assault on Reason. If you aren't a Gore supporter now, you will be.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 01:26 PM
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13. This is exactly what Gore would say if he were running in 2008...
Nobody seeking political office would dare blame the media for anything. If they turned around his sigh in 18 hours, imagine how quickly they could create more skepticism about climate change.

By the way, I seem to remember reading this

"Tipper also says that Al has made no moves that would suggest a run for the presidency, but adds that if he turned to her one night and said he had to run, she’d get on board, and they’d discuss how to approach it this time around, given what they’ve learned."

was almost exactly how Richard Nixon began his 1968 run.
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kma3346 Donating Member (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 01:51 PM
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14. Please, please, please....
Let it be true!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:20 PM
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17. I hope so. I think we'll know for sure in the next month or so. nt
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 02:04 PM
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16. He feels fine and he makes me feel fine! Run Al.... please!
Thanks OP for posting this!
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:41 PM
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24. I really wish Gore could have served his elected term in office.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:58 PM
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25. I haven't read it yet and I know my blood is going to boil
I watched the Gore sliming in real time by reading Daily Howler every day. They would take the most innocuous phrase or factoid, twist it until it was unrecognizable, then slam Gore hard with it.

And each new column would grow and grow, each time adding these smears, sometimes with some new lies added in, like a bizarre fish story that grew with each telling.

And they all quoted each other, fed off one another, sometimes using the exact turns of phrase, time after sickening time.

Ok, cover me, I'm going in....
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:10 PM
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28. His "LOSS"? Et tu, Brute?
Thanks a lot, Al!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:52 PM
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31. He lost the presidency - not the election
I found it poignant that they were so stunned and shell-shocked that they had to go to Europe.

They really felt lost and bewildered by the experience. As did over half the country.

And most of the world.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:21 AM
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49. That's exactly right. nt
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:18 PM
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29. I suspect the same will happen in 2008
The Washington Post and NY Times led the smear campaign against Gore that put Bush in the Whitehouse. It's amazing that Gore managed to narrowly win the 2000 election given the absurdly unfair treatment he got from the media. The smears in the Post and Times of Clinton, Obama and Edwards have already started and I don't see any strong response from liberals. We need to fight back.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 01:07 AM
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43. Welcome To DU!
:hi:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:24 PM
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34. After reading that article, I can fully understand why Al Gore would NEVER want to get back into
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 10:26 PM by in_cog_ni_to
politics. What I fear is the propaganda networks manipulating the polls and making him think he should run again and once he throws his hat in the ring, they go for the jugular again. Set him up to knock him down again. They LOVE that crap. They love the manipulation, the power, the ability to twist the facts at will. If he's not THEIR candidate of choice.....they will DESTROY HIM....again. Seems to me, there's nothing the propaganda networks would like better than a Gore/Clinton battle. We've already seen who the propaganda networks have chosen as their candidate.....Hillary.

Unless, of course, they would like to redeem themselves and give Gore a fair shake, but I don't see that ever happening. They like their power and control over our elections. They get high on it. Gore won, in spite of them, but he could have had a CLEAR victory had the propaganda networks done their jobs HONESTLY and RESPONSIBLY. We can blame the MEDIA for the destruction of our country. It's their fault. Plain and simple.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 05:41 AM
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50. Incognito, I couldn't agree with you more...
I just read an article written on a Conservative site last week calling for him to run... and they would like nothing better because I believe it would play out exactly as you stated in your post. It's like your enemy suddenly making "friends" with you and inviting you to a party at his house just so he can have his goons jump you. All of these people constantly beating the "run Al run" drum trying to make us all think the media will play nice now, the votes will be counted now, the election won't be stolen now, and that the beltway in DC is fair and Constitutional and has no desires but to fulfill the will of the people so he would "win" in a landslide" because there is nothing stopping him... Yes, what hogwash that is.

I firmly believe the media, and the RW, and perhaps even some other groups are doing nothing but pushing this man to run again so they can see a brawl... so they can satisfy their political bloodlust... and, in the case of some, so they can get a chance to knock him down again. And the media would LOVE IT. I too can see why he would never wish to go through it again, or at least just keep his options open ever so slightly for the future in the hope that the people will wake up in time to change things. So I hope he sticks to his guns and follows his heart now and is not tempted by all of the soundbites and media rhetoric designed to push him into the trap again.

And I agree with you about the media and their complicity and am not willing to give them a free pass on this. It was theit fault and it is still their fault. They were accomplices in a judicial coup that went unchallenged by the American people as a whole, Mr. Gore's fellow Democrats, and the "hierarchy" of the Democratic party... and to this day I have never heard an apology from the Democratic party for what they did not only to Mr. Gore but to this country.

So, since 2/3 of this country already think he lost the coup of 2000 due to the media still printing that crap, just what do people think the media will focus on if he did run again? ISSUES? Please. It would be 2000 and his LOSS. I can see the headlines now, and I hope again that Mr. Gore follows his heart because I truly do believe right now that the road he is on is a better way for him to accomplish his goals. He is finally away from all of that crap and able to do it his way and frankly, I wouldn't give that up for anything, especially looking at the alternative.
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 06:38 AM
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54. No- they won't destroy him...
WE know better now and WE won't let them.

Never give up. Never surrender.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:14 AM
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55. TRUE, but anyone running against the GOP-er will eventually get the same
The primaries are but MSM's pick of the designated loser.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:58 PM
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40. One bit of advice - DON'T HIRE SHRUM or BRAZILLE!!!!!!!!!!!
Run Al!!!!!!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 12:49 AM
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41. "“we were roadkill … it took a long time to pick ourselves up from what happened.”"
especially when you consider that by popular vote and, if all the votes had been counted, electoral votes, he won...
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 12:50 AM
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42. The Al Gore of 2007 is NOT the Al Gore (tool of the DLC) of 2000 (n/t)
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 02:57 AM
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46. Who you callin' a TOOL ???
Most people believed Al Gore was the best candidate in 2000.

He got the most votes - and those are just the ones they counted!

Al Gore would have been a great President in 1989, 1999 (if Bill had resigned), 2001 ...

I hope we will get to see how great he can be in 2009-2016!!


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Sign the Live Earth Pledge: www.liveearthpledge.org

Then ask all your friends and family to sign it too! :-)

Visit Al's site www.algore.com and read his blog http://blog.algore.com

Sign the petitions at www.algore.org and www.draftgore.com

:kick:


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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:18 AM
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47. It's going to take the U.S. a long to pick itself up from what has happened to it.
But a good start to doing just that would be to have a leader such as Albert Gore, Jr. at the helm....
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 03:20 AM
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48. BTW, regarding the Internet, his right move would be to ram what he did
for the whole thing right up their ass.

That man is a goddamned genius.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 05:54 AM
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52. During the 2004 race I met the man John Kerry pulled from the river in ..
.... Vietnam as he was bleeding from a shrapnel wound in his shoulder and yet
the "Swift Boat Lies" were being sold 24/7 .... just remember there is NOTHING
that the right wing will not do to win. "They" are now doing the same thing to
Edwards in order to "soften him up."

Liberal Press my ass.

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<Dowd wrote in one column that "Al Gore is so feminized and diversified and ecologically correct,
he's practically lactating." In another, referring to his consideration of putting a Webcam in the
Oval Office, she wrote, "I have zero desire to see President Gore round the clock, putting comely
interns to sleep with charts and lectures on gaseous reduction.">
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57. Gore Rocks
But why did it take so long to state the obvious ?
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58. To me
the VF article seems to be paving the way for his entry into the '08 race. After this unusually scorching Spring and Summer with drought in the West and Mid-West, people are prepared to listen to his leadership on global warming.
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