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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:15 AM
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Listening to Diane Rehm show - I am very, very frustrated....
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 10:25 AM by NRaleighLiberal
Diane is not there, instead a woman from the BBC (who is doing a fairly good job) - panel of 3 from the media. People are emailing or calling in with great questions - the topic is about the impending return of Congress and what they are likely to tackle. Callers and emailers all sharing their frustration and anger at the way things are going - as if we are on an inevitable path toward whatever Bush and the Republicans want. The responses from the 3 panel members are just the typical, wishy washy, non answers. They are not owning up to NOT doing their job, to enabling this misadministration toward anything that they wish to do.

My question - is there just simply no way at all to stop this madness? The excessive (and permanent and expensive) new embassy in Iraq? The mindless driving of the right wing agenda into our so called democracy?

Aren't the Dems now in the majority - you would never know it from looking at how the same failed agenda is progressing, at how we weakly kowtow to the right at every opportunity.

I am starting to think, more and more, that we are in an incredibly ugly, unavoidable cycle - an inevitable decline in our values, our lifestyle, our media, our government. There is simply too much apathy (amongst we the people) and money induced criminality (amongst our leaders and lobbyists) and weakness due to the double whammy of misapplied religion and fear (we the people, again) - for me to have much hope for things to improve before they get a whole lot worse. The only way for people to get shaken up and wake up is for the shit to really hit the fan, so that we can see our way clearly again.

I just don't understand how so many can stand back and let the lifetime, miserable failure that is our so called president take down the world in such an efficient way.

I guess that to most (including the media and most of the public), this is all just a bad movie that they can turn off. Problem it is not a movie - it is real, and a disaster!
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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:20 AM
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1. We are just being good Germans.
n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:22 AM
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2. I'm not. My neighbors aren't. In fact
the majority in my state aren't.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:27 AM
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3. Perhaps we should purchase several hundred billions of dollars worth of media...
> My question - is there just simply no way at all to stop this madness?

Perhaps we should purchase several hundred billions of dollars
worth of media outlets (as the Republicans have done since
about the seventies or so) so that *OUR* side of the story
can actually reach people unfiltered?

Short of that, we're screwed.

Tesha
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:32 AM
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4. YOU missed the BEST PART: "A Free Market" = LIBERTY. WFT.com????
When I heard THIS gem, I almost drove off the road.

The interviewee is saying that Liberty must sometimes precede Popular Sovereignty, but then he EQUATES "A FREE MARKET" and LIBERTY??

Since when does the economic system of the Eternal Salesman/Middleman equal LIBERTY? Did I hear this guy right, and why wasn't he IMMEDIATELY pilloried for the RIGHT WING POLTROON he was showing himself to be?
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Locrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:39 AM
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6. exactly
Since when does the economic system of the Eternal Salesman/Middleman equal LIBERTY?



I think most of the talking heads, marketing, business, media, etc belive PRECISELY that - that "A FREE MARKET" = "LIBERTY". Ever watch MarketWatch? Worst case of free market leg humping I have ever seen (heard).
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Tyler Durden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:46 AM
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7. Try "MARKETPLACE" on NPR.
Every time I hear "We're in the Money" played as if the Stock Market is God's Gift to Humanity, I want to projectile vomit. I actually CHEER when I hear "Stormy Weather."
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:11 AM
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9. That David somebody from Texas who is AMAZED and EXHAUSTED
Edited on Tue Sep-04-07 11:14 AM by Idealist Hippie
every time the stock market goes up and then is AMAZED and EXHAUSTED again whenever the stock market goes down or up the next day -- what is with this clown? Wouldn't you think he'd get accustomed to the idea that the stock market goes up and down?
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:39 AM
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5. The Republicans Have Used Up Their Credibility
the tide is turning. The media isn't afraid to be critical. Unfortunately, the changes have not been as fast and will likley not be as far-reaching as most of us hope for. But that's the history seems to work.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:09 AM
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8. I think you have lost perspective
the country does not turn on a dime, it takes time. Remember 50% of Americans were against the war in Vietnam in 1968. Nixon ran as the peace candidate. We were 6 years "withdrawing" from Vietnam.

Admitting we were wrong is painful when we know we have ruined the lives of millions of people. The war make look like an easy answer to you but it isn't to me and it isn't to many Americans. Yes, we want out but it makes us sick to think leaving will make it worse. That is NOT to say we shouldn't pull out. I just think you have to recognize that not everyone sees this in such stark terms as you do.

There is another post here showing this Congress has voted against the President more than any Congress in 50 years. We also got rid of those monsters Rummy and Rove and that complete incompetent Gonzo. If you think for one minute we didn't do that or it doesn't matter or that it is not an accomplishment you are blinded by your or rhetoric.

If we all start saying the dems are no better than the GOP who will you blame when we lose in 2008 because the media says "the dems are no better than the GOP?"

Keep this up and you better get used to saying President Rudy.

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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:38 AM
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10. I don't think so....
It is not that I expect change to happen overnight - but I expect the Dem leaders and the media to at least give the impression that they are aware of the crap that's going on and to NOT enable it. I've not seen sufficient evidence of that to convince me we are moving yet in the right direction.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 01:04 PM
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12. As Mark Twain said:
I'm an old man and I have known a great mqany troubles, but most of them never happened.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:50 AM
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11. Why is a PERMANENT embassy a problem?
:shrug:
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