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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:17 PM Original message |
Whoopi just lost me as a fan. |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Did you watch The View |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. My "knee jerk" reaction came from reading the article. |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. If she's not defending it she sure seems to be justifying his mind-set |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. You won't find such things in the suburbs. You have to go to rural |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
53. thats just not true |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. As a general rule about all you find in the suburbs is some vandalism |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Um, not necessarily - it's in all FIFTY states. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I can see where dog fighting can take place in industrial areas. Many |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I live very close to those McMansions - they have them, too. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. That sucks. I lived in Detroit and Pontiac, two cities were you didn't |
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iamthebandfanman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #70 |
90. right |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Understanding where he came from and justifying his behavior |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 12:53 AM Response to Reply #25 |
98. Or just rent "Deliverance" (n/t) |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. perhaps |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
51. Where did I say that she was excusing animal curelty? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. I give up |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:12 AM Response to Reply #51 |
101. She never excused his behavior at all. |
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astonamous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
93. Email from Jennifer Pryor to Whoopi... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #93 |
112. we did all note what she did *not* say? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
64. Maybe you should have read it more critically. |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I'll remember your "advice" for next time. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. What part do you disagree with? |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. Where was the part where she defending Michael Vick? |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. I was raised in Portsmouth, VA |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. And I live in Norfolk, VA and the men proudly walk their 'winning' |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Hi there, Homey |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. It's warm but not intollerable today...been the hottest summer in 100 |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I used to live out that way, too |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. My husband's parents currently live in Cavalier Manor! small world |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. I thought we were Old Dominicans |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. Fair enough, but here is where Vick lost his way.. |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Virginia, |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #56 |
110. Yep, well said... |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
4. you were never her fan nt |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. Don't assume to know me. n/t |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. People actually watch that crappy show??!! |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. My reaction, too. nt |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Ditto n/t |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. ding! |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
7. Jamie Foxx defended him too... for similar "cultural" reasons... |
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beltanefauve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Dog fighting |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'm watching it on CNN. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Exactly. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. Yes... you are right... |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. I agree. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. It sounded to me like she was defending it, also. And what is all this 'Deep South' crap?? |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #47 |
87. was he from a rural area? |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
61. My grandfather used to take us to cock fights...it was the norm in southern |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. I was born in Charleston, SC, grew up in Greenville, SC and Atlanta, GA and we now live in upstate |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Anyone who hosts The View has lost me as a fan. |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. lol! I call it The Coven but really I think that's an insult to witches |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:27 PM Original message |
I was raised in the South, too. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
33. The fact that you are well aware of it proves that it is a cultural thing. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #33 |
48. No - I was aware of it because I was a CRIME reporter - |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
12. DUPE |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
16. Sigh...I miss Rosie |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. It is breeding? |
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Link93 (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
17. I do not see where she was defending his actions. |
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qdemn7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. Dog fighting no, chicken fighting yes |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. Cock fighting is also illegal. |
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qdemn7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. So what? |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
26. Doesn't take much, does it? Fact is that dogfighting is... |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
88. you have to be a bit more specific |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
28. The same arguements could be used to justify membership in the KKK |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
29. ohhhhh it's Vick she's defending |
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knowbody0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
32. my take: |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
36. It's really too bad Vick couldn't have been a bull-fighter instead. |
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Buns_of_Fire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
38. But there's a world of difference between an EXPLANATION and an EXCUSE. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. You have to expect that. |
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rudeboy666 (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Sort of like 9-11 |
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Hope springs eternal (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
42. Racial prejuduce |
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liberati (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
102. Yep, all this talk of "southern" culture. |
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DemGa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
45. Umm, yeah, Vick was on cultural autopilot |
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Arkansas Granny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
46. I didn't watch the show, just saw a clip of the exchange on the news, |
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rudeboy666 (959 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
49. Bad Journalism |
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Bryn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
50. Another Black Eye for the South |
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tears4terra (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
92. Thank you Bryn! |
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Thirtieschild (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
57. Oklahoma... |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. They've got that in California |
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Gruenemann (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
58. Would Whoopi defend clitoridectomy? |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. and add "honor killing" to the "do not touch" list, |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. Since when is torturing dogs a southern tradition? |
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tears4terra (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:07 AM Response to Reply #59 |
104. Yes, a stupid and VERY ignorant thing to say. |
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mountainvue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
62. Really disappointed in her remarks. n/t |
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Booster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
63. Well, that didn't take long. |
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Lex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Exactly my thoughts. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
71. Animal cruelty is NEVER okay. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Misleading Headline. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:27 AM Response to Reply #75 |
99. I lived in the south for decades and don't know anyone who does such crap |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
72. Michael Vick's School For Disobedient Dogs (video, parody) |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
73. Did we watch the same show? Because Whoopi did NOT defend Vick. |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Then perhaps she should have left "culture" out of it |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #73 |
89. wow....that is even worse: "Whoopi clearly said that Vick didn't know any better." |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 12:38 AM Response to Reply #89 |
97. No-the point is that people are TWISTING what Whoopi said. |
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Phoonzang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
74. Oh great now this is going to be the top news story |
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coco77 (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
77. So. Everyone doesn't have to crucify Vick... |
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Bethany Rockafella (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
78. Who is Vick? |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
80. No line between EXPLAINING and CONDONING in this instance |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
82. Chicken George from Alec Haley's book Roots |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
83. Reality check |
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idgiehkt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #83 |
91. dog fighting is all over the U.S. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #83 |
95. But for SOME reason, it ONLY became important because VICK did it. |
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VLC (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. Maybe to those who don't pay attention to it specifically |
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TexasBushwhacker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
85. Well, I went and read the article .... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
94. And then there were none. |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
100. See ya 'round Clown n/t |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 05:36 AM Response to Original message |
103. No one in the media is talking about Vick. I say thank you Whoopi |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
105. I'm not really a "fan" of anyone, but |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:16 AM Response to Original message |
106. I did not get that she was "defending"Vick. |
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tears4terra (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. Southern culture my ass! |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Well, I Sure Did |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. See I don't buy that... |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
108. She Also Said "Deep South" |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:18 AM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Depends on what part of Virginia you're talking about.. |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #111 |
114. I live in Iowa, and there are places here where... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #108 |
115. It's ingrained in the deep south. I hail from Vicksburg - is *that* deep enough for you? |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:23 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. That Wasn't My Question! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. My mistake. I thought you specifically questioned her authority based on her being a NYer... |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:30 AM Response to Reply #117 |
118. Fair Enough |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. It's all good. |
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