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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:18 PM
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You know we don't really have a choice anymore about
impeaching the SOB -

Personally - I was always afraid about the damage to the country if we did.

More and more - I am more afraid of the damage to the country if we don't.

I don't care if he has two days left let alone 15 months - it doesn't matter.

Failure to do that - makes us complicite in a crime.

There is no choice. It has come to that.

This has to be done. And I don't want it - but I don't see the choice anymore.

Joe



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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:19 PM
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1. I'd prefer to get rid of Cheney
Bush would then be all alone on Pennsylvania Avenue. He would be castrated without Darth.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:22 PM
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5. It is the same charge.
They both go down.

Joe
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:21 PM
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2. Not impeaching Bush is the same as not prosecuting OJ.
It does not matter whether we can get a conviction; what matters is the rule of law.

The Constitution is the Supreme Law of the land and IT clearly tells us to impeach the S.o.b.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:24 PM
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7. God I don't want to do this - we all have to do things we don't
want to do - there is no choice.

If we fail to do this - we will be complicit as a society.

There really is no choice right now.

Joe
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:22 PM
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3. Yes Joe we have no choice in the matter, either we are with him in his crimes or we aren't
if we aren't we must impeach and send his sorry ass off to the Hague to be tried for War Crimes. Nothing else is important now
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:27 PM
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8. If we fail to do this - it is going to haunt our country for so long.
There is no choice. I do not like the consequences of this - but the consequences of not doing it are so severe.

There is no choice anymore.

Joe
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:32 PM
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10. It is the only thing that will insure we don't loose our government
by not impeaching we will loose it all, everything
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:33 PM
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11. I think it has come to just that.
Joe
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:41 PM
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13. That is right - it has come to that.
There is no choice. It can cost us our soul as a country to fail now.

Joe
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:22 PM
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4. The only saving grace...
is if they send their asses to the Hague on January 21st, 2009.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:22 PM
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6. we as a country look worse for not correcting the major blunder of Bush
being voted in a second time. There was a chance to change that and maybe make us as a country a better place and it certainly would have made us look better to the rest of the world for admitting there was a huge mistake made and we ain't to proud to admit it and take corrective action.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:28 PM
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9. We ARE complicit. n/t
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:39 PM
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12. I am not - you are not - complicit -
but failure now - we will be.

There is no political calculation justified when the question is right and wrong.

This has to happen - there is no choice anymore. There was once, arguably - no more.

I am afraid of the consequences of it - more afraid if we don't.

This is out of our hands - it has to happen. Now.

Joe

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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:49 PM
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14. First order of business for the 111th Congress
Imagine the new Congress convening as usual the first week of January 2009 after swearing in the new members and counting the electoral college ballots. Less than two weeks still remain in the term of the president and vice president.

Cheney and bush are impeached in one fell swoop. President Pro Tempore of the the Senate Robert Byrd of West Virginia will be chosen to be the acting President of the United States until Inauguration Day. President Byrd restores the Constitution in an elaborate ceremony that undoes all the executive signing statements of the past eight years. Bush and Cheney are remanded to the jail cell in the basement of the House as a symbolic act.

The Liberty Bell in Philadelphia will develop another crack as freedom rings once again from sea to shining sea.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:55 PM
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16. No - NOW.
I think they declared war on us -

and I do want to see what "run out on a rail" means in this new century.

I guess that is the good thing - we get to learn something new -

Joe
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:22 PM
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17. Why would Byrd become President?
He's not next in line.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:32 PM
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18. I don't think anyone said that -
I don't like you - who are you exactly??
Joe
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:26 PM
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32. Did you read the post
to which I responded?

That person said Byrd would become President. If you drank less, maybe you could read better. Just a thought.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 11:20 PM
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31. Honestly, that scenario would be political-porno for me. nt
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 08:53 PM
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15. Welcome to my world.
It sucks here, but there are more people joining everyday.

-Hoot
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:32 PM
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19. The occupation of these criminals in the White House
was nothing more than a hit and run. We can do nothing more that tolerate the existence of these pricks until they fade into history.
:dem:
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:34 PM
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20. We can do a lot more - we are the United States.
And we know how to run people out "on a rail". We invented it.

Joe
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:35 PM
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21. Holy crap! This is the first time I've understood what you said! And I like it!
:)
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:37 PM
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23. I am sorry I was ever criptic - I had a reason.
I don't now.

Joe
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:38 PM
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24. It's all good. I take what I can get. :)
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:37 PM
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22. I agree with you, Joe. If we don't impeach this bunch then we will
never be able to impeach ANYBODY. A president could kill somebody in the Oval Office and say the incident falls under executive privilege. It's a mockery of the entire country.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:42 PM
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26. We can.
I like your point.

I honestly think - the US - we are an eagle with two wings - a right and a left - and you better not be in the middle when they cross - and that is exactly what these bastards did.

SO god help them.

Like we were never compare notes or something.

They are so fucked - and they still don't get it.

Joe
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:40 PM
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25. Impeach Bush and Cheney before they carpet bomb Iran, you mean????nt
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 09:59 PM
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27. Oh -no -cause he screwed with us - he screwed with the
foundations of our country - the things our parents died for.

Who is this little prick to do that??

How dare he??

This is a lot deeper than "Iran" - a lot deeper.

Joe



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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:16 PM
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29. I'm with you there, I just wish congress would get some balls before
we have another world war going. Bush is not just a prick, he's a stupid little prick.
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Joe for Clark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:20 PM
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30. well put
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-04-07 10:12 PM
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28. It came to that a long time ago. nt
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 07:09 AM
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33. The emperor has no shame.
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