"The Democrat's Strategy For Failure In Iraq"

[ThomWV]

The talking point phrase for the month mouthed by one after another Republican at every interview is that the "Democrats have a strategy for failure in Iraq", that Democrats want our soldiers to be killed and for us to lose.

What kind of idiotic talk is that. What in hell doesn't one of the TV hosts stand up to that sort of bullshit? Why aren't they stopped dead in the their tracks and have this question demanded of them - "What Democrat has formulated this 'strategy', who is that person? Why hasn't the Republican Department of Justice charged that person with Treason? If there is such a strategy why hasn't the President done something to find the traitor that put it together and put them in prison?" If they can't answer that question they should shut their fuckin' mouths.

Why in hell do hosts of TV shows put up with this sort of shit? Why do listeners and viewers put up with it?

[WinkyDink]

1. "Treason"? Maybe a different approach might be suggested.

[bryant69]

2. Well it would be nice if they challenged it

But as a rhetorical gambit it is pretty defensible.

They think the War in Iraq is winnable, and as such they are happy to pour more men money and machines into that conflict. We think it isn't winnable (and has been lost for some time) and so are looking to get out.

From their perspective, Democrats seem determined to lose when we could definately win. From our perspective, Republicans are determined to sacrifice more American Soldiers in an unwinnable war.

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[patrioticintellect]

3. Fear and respect this conservative logic

The Republicans, while twisted, will have no trouble convincing the people of America what they say. At least, they will have no trouble affecting those in the middle who are contemplating not voting Republican ever again. I am speaking about the people who are stuck in the middle of a two-party dictatorship and wondering the way out or which side to vote for this time. They may not know everything or even the truth, but they know they are unhappy. But who to trust this time?

And the Republicans will have no trouble selling that Democrats have a strategy for failure if they continue to talk this tough talk on campaign trails and in the House and Senate chambers without doing something that produces results i.e. our troops being brought home.

The Democratic Party is already guilty of ignoring and bypassing plans to defund the war, use those funds to bring troops home, and institute a UN international peacekeeping and security task force in Iraq. In effect, this means failure because our troops continue to bring on violence that if we left could mean the government could actually focus on fending off the U.S. government's imperial orders for what they should legislate and focus on rebuilding a broken nation.

The Iraqi people have no patience and can wait no longer. I have no patience. I don't want to believe in a strategy for failure. But if one is in place, it's working.

[TwilightGardener]

4. Can't win an occupation. You can only continue to occupy, while enduring the

bombs and bullets that the natives lob at you, and hope that they eventually get tired of doing it. It stuns me that so many in this country can't see this for what it is.

[bemildred]

5. Bush's strategy has been a failure in Iraq, eh? nt

[msongs]

6. the democrats have a strategy of any kind? nt

[jschurchin]

7. Actually Thom, It's very simple

Why in hell do hosts of TV shows put up with this sort of shit? Why do listeners and viewers put up with it?

It's because most people are very lazy. We don't want to do the research necessary to find out what is really going on. We turn on the boob tube or the radio and EXPECT those people to do the research for us.

There are paid shills all over the airwaves spewing all kinds of information full of half-truths and outright lies. The majority of Americans get their information this way and they BELIEVE it. Facts never have to get in the way a good story.

If CNN or FoxNews broadcast a STORY that Iran shelled the Green Zone most Americans would be ready to attack Iran, whether the STORY is true or not isn't relevant because sheeple are lazy and don't really care if it's true.

Just remember the Gulf of Tonken, or Weapons of Mass Destruction. The media broadcast it, Americans believe it and our soldiers die because of it.

Being Lazy Sucks.

[KharmaTrain]

8. It's Nothing Like The Repugnican Strategy For Failures...Mission Accomplished

I had the fun of playing around with a Repugnican last weekend (he claims either he's a "libertarian" or "independent") and he used those same talking points. It didn't take much to put him on his heels...from the mismanagement of this invasion to the ineptitude of this regime in reading the realities on the ground and providing the proper number of troops or material to do the job to the bogus causes for the invasion.

He was spinning so fast he was in cetrafuge range...and no matter how he attempted to blame Democrats, I kept hammering him on who really made the decission. For almost all this invasion, including its critical early stages, it was a rubber stamp Repugnican House and Senate that made this war possible and they've done little to do more than give the inept leadership (and many Repugnicans now admit boooosh is a total fuck-up)...of course Democrats didn't have a "strategy", they didn't have the votes to make it happen. And, of course, there's that PA Congressman (I happened to be in suburban Philly at the time) named Murtha who did have a plan...and how ridiculed he was for proposing it (a plan many Repugnicans agree with now).

Corporate media plays the "conventional wisdom" game...an inside the beltway ego trip that surrounds their little world of access, bylines, cocktail parties and being pals with those in power (who provide those "annonymous sources"). They bleat among themselves throwing around spin and talking points as if they are the truth and this storyline is what seeps into their "reporting". Right wing media...the Mighty Wurlitzer...is well represented in these circles, while the non-existant Progressive media sits outside this party and thus the dialogue and narrative being presented by the corporate media.

[backscatter712]

9. The GOP's projecting again.

They accuse us of wanting another terrorist attack, but it was Addington that said "Just one more bomb, and we can be rid of FISA."