Are we seeing the Republican Party Splitting over Craig Incident?

[KoKo]

Viewing M$M I'm hearing Repug "Talking Heads" pro-Craig (he was set up) and others "Questioning" and then there's Senater Minority Leader Mitch McConnell that MSNBC described as "befuddled" trying to say that Craig should resign but he has until Sept. 30th to do it. Stan Brand, Craig's lawyer says that the Ethics Committee doesn't prosecute drunk driving or hit and run cases against Senators who've done this in the past so what Craig did or didn't do shouldn't even be an issue for the Committee to strip him of his job.

Tweety talks with Stan Brand the lawyer Craig has hired to represent him with the Senate Ethic's Committee and Stand is supposedly going to "pressure" Feinstein who's Ethics Head to drop the case against Craig and Brand says they are working on all fronts to get the charges dropped (I assume with that Billy person...the lawyer who represented Michael Vick) who is working in to get the original charges dropped in Minnesota against Craig. Lawyer Brand didn't explain to Matthews how Craig could get off after he pleaded guilty ...but I guess we are to figure that Craig can pull strings in his home state.

Then there's Arlen Specter who seems to be breaking with his own Repug Party and Leader McConnell who is defending Craig.

It's kind of incredible. It's hard to know which side to come down on this now that Craig is saying he's innocent.

My personal opinion is that if he wasn't doing anything wrong then why did he plead guilty in the first place and then now try to hire lawyers who will get him off.

:shrug:

[liberal N proud]

1. I am sure they will come together in time to support more war.

[izzie]

3. But it would be fun to see Stevens go down. But I think before

it gets to Steven's something will be done to keep old Ted safe.

[NC_Nurse]

2. We can always dream...

:)

[goodhue]

4. McConnell-Spector divergence is pretty entertaining

I hope it continues

[jzodda]

6. Me too, and for months also

The more we bleed the Repukes the more they are at our mercy for 08

[KoKo]

10. That's probably most important thing about this...Why would Specter go Against McConnel?

Is Specter thinking he can replace McConnell if Dems win in '08? What was Specter's Motive for coming out in support of Craig after Craig "flip/flopped?" What does Specter get out of this? :shrug:

[tridim]

5. No, we're seeing BushCo get away with murder..

While the MSM and America are focused on phase III of a lame sex scandal.

[KoKo]

11. How is this a "lame sex scandal?" Do you remember what happened with Clinton?

Do you remember that Al Gore couldn't run with Clinton where the American People were doing Okay (little did we know) because of the Lewinsky Scandal where every night MSNBC and other media were villifying Clinton over a Blow Job?

Is foot tapping by a Senator and passing his hand under a stall (where he says he was looking for toilet tissue that was "on the floor") equivalent to what Bill Clinton did?

As far as I know Bill Clinton didn't legislate against BLOW JOBS but Larry Craig did everything he could to hurt Gay Rights in every bill he voted on....and his views against gays are well known in the Right Wing Community.

If Larry Craig manages to "get a pass" blaming Liberal Democrats for a Witch Hunt against him...what does that say? :shrug:

[tridim]

12. I guess I meant it's becoming lame now

and lame is probably the wrong word too.

Regardless of the wording it's now being used to suppress more important news. That's all I'm saying.

[KoKo]

14. IOWDS...it's ANYTHING GOES...and so we need to "clear Deck"

because Legislation tops Ethics. :shrug:

[napi21]

7. CNN just reported the Ethics Comm. refused to drop the Craig case.

They reported this as "just in" at about 5:55PM est, rught before completion of the Situation Room's second hour. Oh well, so much for Stan Brand and that futile effort! I suspect Billy Martin will encounter the same response from the Judge he plans to appeal to let Craig withdraw his plea.

Don't ya just love watching an arrogant idiot struggle for his last political breath, and LOSING!

[KoKo]

15. Amazing...then Feinstein didn't CAVE over Craig... Tweety had Lawyer saying

he was asking Di/Fi to Dismiss the whole ethics thing with Craig. Amazing...

[Jack from Charlotte]

8. Here's what's going on here IMO.....

Craig seems to think if he can get his conviction of Disorderly Conduct overturned, it will prove he's not Gay. I expect him to pull out anything he can in order to prove this to himself.

Anyone see the Repug woman CNN last night prior to Larry King? A woman who said 217 times that the only difference between The Craig case and The Vitter Case is..... "Craig has been convicted of a crime." CRIME. CONVICTED.

It has nothing to do with any allegations that Craig's "problem" was one of homosexuality, unlike Vitter's. Yea, right.

So sit back and enjoy..... Wonder if Craig's conviction is set aside, all those..... repugs who swear they want Craig gone, only because he's been convicted will rescind their objection to him.

I'm guessing, they won't.

[KoKo]

16. It's not whether Craig is gay or not...it's that he exhibited behavior that was Offensive

enough that a Vice Squad Cop picked him up. And Peeping for a long time through bathroom crack and stuff does lead one to wonder about "bathroom privacy" for all of us.

I think for some reason that folks got confused over this. If Harry Reid, Levin or Schumer had been picked up "peering through stall crack and tapping toes and then putting hand under stall to pick up sheet of toilet tissue..."what would we here on the LEFT have thought about this? :shrug:

[hlthe2b]

9. Craig's home state is Idaho... How does that help him pull strings

in Minnesota?


This whole affair is unbelievable, really.

[KoKo]

13. Apparently Stan Brand is representing him in the Ethic's Committee Senate Case

and Billy (somebody) who was Michael Vick's Lawyer in Dog Fighting Case is going to try to overturn the case against him in Minnesota. (Assume that means stringing up by the balls or torture to the police vice squad guy who caught Craig in the mensroom.) If you go after a cop for entrapment and you are a Senator with a HIGH PAID LAWYER...you can WIN!

What does this say about other folks who are caught up but can't afford high priced lawyers like Scooter Libby did or set up a "Defense Fund" where the known RW'er Corporatists will kiss and cover your butt.

Would that all of us out here has access to these incredible lawyers. But, we out here can't afford shit...except some feebie court appointed...if we get in trouble. :-)

[malaise]

17. I don't give a flying fugg

but I'm lovin this mess :rofl: What a bunch of hypocrites.

[Frogger]

18. Stupity.

My personal opinion is that if he wasn't doing anything wrong then why did he plead guilty in the first place and then now try to hire lawyers who will get him off.

The answer is that the man was stupid, and is now paying the deserved price. I don't care if he was gay; I don't even really give a damn if he was a 'hypocrite'. The man did some incredibly stupid acts, breaking the law was the minor one. The major one was not shutting up, dummying up, and lawyering up.

[jazzjunkysue]

19. I certainly hope so.

Popcorn, please.

[Snarkturian Clone]

20. If it is, it's only short term.

The one advantage I would say the repukes have over us is that they get reprogrammed back into unity relatively quickly after stuff like this happens. It's part of why we call them bushbots, no?

[opihimoimoi]

21. The Pub Party has morphed into the Tub Party, the Bath Boys, the 2 Tap Dancers