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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:01 PM
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CNN Quick poll
Is TV fame an asset when running for office?

58% voted yes

Where do these dumb people come from.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:02 PM
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1. From the US of A.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:03 PM
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2. Decendants
from the folks who voted for Reagan. It's genetic. If you're stupid, chances are your kids will be stupid.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:03 PM
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3. Not dumb. It IS an asset when you're running.
Just like movie fame got Arnold elected. Governing? Eh.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:07 PM
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4. Actually, it IS an asset...for a while. Think about it. Millions of
people watch L&O, and every fan knows Fred Thompson! They may not know him by his real name, but when they see him, they recognize him! Do you have any idea how many people I've talked to about 6 months ago who only knew 2 of the candidates who were running...Hillary Clinton & John McCain!

Now, a TV star can only ride that familiarity so far, then they have to actually say things of substance! But initially, it sure IS an asset!
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 11:21 PM
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8. Fred's going to go through the roof. His message is straight and stupid and his face familiar.
Edited on Wed Sep-05-07 11:24 PM by Flabbergasted
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:12 PM
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5. CNN has jumped the shark even for QuickPolls.
It now has the content of a combination of Fox News and Weekly World News.

I used to post many a Quick Poll here at DU. Not any more.

Ted Turner's baby is an embarrassment.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 10:21 PM
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6. absolutely...

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/PoliticsNewsMedia.html
The Politics of News Media
from the book
False Hope
by Norman Solomon, 1994
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Popularized renderings of reality, however phony, supply us with shared illusions, suitable for complying with authorized itineraries, the requisite trips through never-never lands of public pretense. Privately, we struggle to make sense of our experiences; perhaps we can create some personal space so that our own perceptions and emotions have room to stretch. But the limits of privatized solutions are severe. Public spheres determine the very air we breathe and the social environments of our lives. The standard detours meander through imposing landscapes. Beyond the outer limits of customary responses, uncharted territory is "weird"-certainly not familiar from watching TV or reading daily papers. Following in the usual footsteps seems to be safer.
Confusion about politics and power denies us clues as to where to go from here.
Anne Wilson Schaef has identified pivotal results of such confusion:
" First, it keeps us powerless and controllable. No one is more controllable than a confused person; no society is more controllable than a confused society. Politicians know this better than anyone, and that is why they use innuendos, veiled references, and out-and-out lies instead of speaking clearly and truthfully.
Second, it keeps us ignorant. Professionals give their clients confusing information cloaked in intimidating language that lay-people cannot understand. They preserve their "one-up" status while preventing us from learning about our own bodies, our legal rights, and our psychology.
Third, it keeps us from taking responsibility for our own lives.
No one expects confused people to own up to the things they think, say, or do, or face the truth about who they are.
Fourth, it keeps us busy. When we must spend all our time and energy trying to figure out what is going on, we have none left over for reflecting on the system, challenging it, or exploring alternatives to it.
These have the combined effect of keeping us stuck within the system. And this, I believe, is the primary purpose of confusion. A confused person will stay within the system because the thought of moving out of it is too frightening. It takes a certain amount of clarity to try new things, walk new roads, and cross new bridges, ~ and confusion makes clarity and risk taking impossible."
Mass media encourage us-viewers, listeners, readers-to suspend disbelief, willingly or otherwise. Stalked by propaganda wolves in chic clothing, we are the intended sheep. Conformity is disguised with appearances of diversity-just as silence about what matters most is in no way inconsistent with constant verbiage.
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The pretense is that You Are There, or you have choices; the reality, much more likely, is that you aren't anywhere, and/you can choose from the choices that have already been made for you. The delusion of "choice" from an array of televised (and corporately backed) programs is parallel to the delusion of choice from an array of pre-screened (and corporately backed) presidential candidates.
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In effect, "The TV newsman comforts us as John Wayne comforted our grandparents, by seeming to have the whole affair in hand.... Since no one seems to live on television, no one seems to die there. And the medium's temporal facility deprives all terminal moments of their weight."

Being numb to untoward events is in sync with being passive. For mass media, this is a perfect fit. Television, a powerful number, asks that we do nothing-"don't touch that dial"-except go out and buy things. Everything is well-produced, including the latest war; especially one made in the USA.
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/PoliticsNewsMedia.html
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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 11:12 PM
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7. Sounds like something from the movie Idiocracy
Seriously hilarious but kinda scary movie, imho.
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Colorado Progressive Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-05-07 11:24 PM
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9. Maybe not agreeing but based on the Reagan nomination...
he swept the whole country pretty much, and he was almost as stupid as Shrubboy
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