BUSH KNEW - MONTHS BEFORE WAR - THAT SADDAM HAD NO WMD'S (Salon:Exclusive Info From 2 CIA Officers)

[kpete]

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction
Salon exclusive:
Two former CIA officers say the president squelched top-secret intelligence,
and a briefing by George Tenet, months before invading Iraq.

By Sidney Blumenthal


Sept. 6, 2007 | On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam's inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

.................................

Now two former senior CIA officers have confirmed Drumheller's account to me and provided the background to the story of how the information that might have stopped the invasion of Iraq was twisted in order to justify it. They described what Tenet said to Bush about the lack of WMD, and how Bush responded, and noted that Tenet never shared Sabri's intelligence with then Secretary of State Colin Powell. According to the former officers, the intelligence was also never shared with the senior military planning the invasion, which required U.S. soldiers to receive medical shots against the ill effects of WMD and to wear protective uniforms in the desert.

..............

In the congressional debate over the Authorization for the Use of Military Force, even those voting against it gave credence to the notion that Saddam possessed WMD. Even a leading opponent such as Sen. Bob Graham, then the Democratic chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, who had instigated the production of the NIE, declared in his floor speech on Oct. 12, 2002, "Saddam Hussein's regime has chemical and biological weapons and is trying to get nuclear capacity." Not a single senator contested otherwise. None of them had an inkling of the Sabri intelligence


much, much, much - more at:
None of the senators who voted to authorize the use of force had an inkling of the Sabri intelligence
http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/06/bush_wmd/?source=whitelist

[Solly Mack]

1. k/r

[dickbearton]

129. Bush is a traitor...

and a war criminal.

[spanone]

2. k&r

[countmyvote4real]

3. Impeach already.

[Seabiscuit]

99. Lying to Congress to justify a pre-emptive war is an impeachable offense

in addition to being a violation of the U.N. Charter, a violation of the Constitution requiring Presidents to honor international treaties such as the U.N. charter, a federal crime and a war crime.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

101. any congressperson aiding and abetting this should also go down

if it a federal crime and a war crime then perhaps the GOP could be persuaded they are not off the hook so they had better provide the votes for impeachment.

[Zodiak]

119. You said it!

Hell...we've all been saying it for years, but now we have somuch evidence that we are drowning in it.

Impeach the bastard already!

[lostnotforgotten]

4. Impeach Nay Sayers - Dismiss This!

eom

[wicket]

5. K & R

:kick:

[varkam]

6. To bad he didn't get a blowjob somewhere along the way.

:shrug:

[w8liftinglady]

7. impeachment is too good for him.I suggest this...

http://www.haguejusticeportal.net/

[upi402]

8. media crickets! HELP I need earplugs!!!

4th estate traitors

[berni_mccoy]

9. WE KNOW ALREADY!!! CAN WE IMPEACH FOR THE SAKE OF HUMANITY!!!!

[earth mom]

121. Exactly! nt

[bbgrunt]

10. there are no words for this kind of treason.

[aquart]

11. I knew that. Anyone with an IQ over ten should have known that.

Bush is a liar. He lies. He never casually tells the truth about anything. After he gives his name, nothing is true.

I do not believe, now or in the past, our senators were that ignorant of the basic character of the man. Or the poverty of his arguments. They made a choice to protect their careers when it became obvious to them they had nothing to fight with. They could have walked out. They made Souter's choice. We will never know if that was the best choice. We don't even know how many are dead now. We know less how many would have died otherwise.

But it is certain that thousands of people died because the Republican-controlled Congress refused to question George or honestly examine the evidence. Or say boo to him.

I hate the the criminals whose gang is called the Republican party. I want only harm to come to them. As each one falls on earth prior to eternity in Hell, I grimly rejoice at the small justice.

[Gregorian]

12. Add a little Hans Blix and Scott Ritter and what do you have?

War crimes soup.

So Blair was a poodle. The Dems really should have known, or at least had the level of skepticism that WE HAD.

Are there any sane people out there willing to say what the next step may be? Impeachment, maybe? Hello!

[whoneedstickets]

13. Too bad no one was brave enough to leak that tidbit...

..not that they would have found a willing reporter/editor with big enough kahones to actually run a story that was counter to the WH propaganda machine at the time.

[agincourt]

14. Sidney Blumenthal,

along with Palast and Perry are last of the few journalists in this country. This is grounds for removal from office in spades.

[bluesmail]

67. Don't forget Seymour Hersch---eom

[me b zola]

15. k&r

[Mrs. Overall]

16. I feel like we are living in a looney bin--how are they getting away with these blatant crimes?

Why isn't there outrage? I just don't get it.....

[Cleita]

27. The same way Hitler did.

They convinced the Germans that disaster was around every corner so they had to support the Reich to be protected and were accused of being unpatriotic if they questioned what was going on. Those things that the Nazis knew the Germans might find fishy, they lied about just like this administration does.

[bdamomma]

52. yea, Hitler was a lunatic and so is *, Prescott must be so proud

of his worthless and sick grandson.

[SlowDownFast]

74. As evidenced by this quote:

"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."

-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials

[gateley]

123. Sobering. n/t

[harun]

69. There is plenty of outrage, the reason they easily get away with

it is because once you have the Media, the Executive, the Judiciary and the Legislative agree on something, it is irrelevant if it is against the law or not.

[gateley]

122. I'm with you -- I just don't understand how they keep railroading on their

merry way and nothing is done. And I'm at a loss for words at the national uproar over Clinton's escapades with Monica -- If the R's can stir up the country over that, why can't the D's whip up some ferver for nailing this guy? Does ANYONE have an answer?

[L. Coyote]

17. What is the liability for going to war based on lies?

With personal injury law, if the party causing the harm was acting outside the law, there is no real defense. This is the position Bush has placed the USA in. We are liable for the harm of the war, and have no defense! What will this cost, in addition to the war and the interest on the debt?

[Maraya1969]

85. We need some personal injury suits brought up against this administration

Maybe a member of the military can't file a suit but what about their children or parents?

At the very least it would make for some good exposure. People understand law suit while they may not understand illegal war.

[Raejeanowl]

110. I've Thought About That

A nice class-action lawsuit brought by the parents, perhaps? The illnesses are starting to mount up, I hear, including those attributed to the mandatory vaccinations for those not ultimately deployed. Maybe Cindy Sheehan could be persuaded to spearhead?

[Auntie Bush]

138. How about all us DUers, and all the other Dem forums joining

together and start a class action suit of our own. To hell with congress if they won't do anything. I'm serious! I'd start one myself if I were a rich lawyer. There's a job for Edwards if he wants to make a name for himself.

[Raejeanowl]

141. If There Is a Civil Attorney Among Us

I would love to hear his/her take on the possibilities of a civil lawsuit naming the principals jointly and individually as respondents for the negligence and reckless endangerment in all deaths or personal injuries accruing to American troops active as of or activated after the launch of the illegitimate Iraqi invasion.

I think you only need two named plaintiffs to file a class action suit, but whether this is tenable or precedented, I don't know. Maybe there's better grounds more consistent with this type of lawsuit? Maybe throw out the class action idea and just file a regular civil suit with a lengthy list of plaintiffs.

It's up to someone more knowledgeable than I. But if as others have pointed out, Congress wishes to sit on their keesters (dereliction of duty in any other quarter) regardless of the accumulation of offenses, and the media pretends that all is hunky dory, what choice by legal channels do seriously aggrieved American people have?

I will die a happy woman if they are forced out of office one way or another before the end of the current term.

[bleever]

18. Add some Downing Street Minutes, and "Fuck Saddam,

We're taking him out", and history writes itself.

Fuck the surfers; history is the ocean.

[hang a left]

19. Sorry...

I don't believe it for one second. All the information regarding the absence of WMD was here and discussed ad nauseum. For them to come out with this article to attempt to alleviate any responsibility of members of congress that voted for this war and occupation is just sickening.

I. Don't. Buy. It.

They all had the information available to them just as we had. For them to somehow attempt to distance themselves from their votes will not work. It may work for the percentage of the population that wasn't paying attention. BUT. IT. WILL. NOT. WORK. FOR. ME!!!

[NoFederales]

66. It doesn't ring true; I immediately had the same notion that this is somehow

revisionist history at work. There was plenty of speculation AND circumstantial evidence that Saddam had no WMD 'back in the day', so why this concoction? Who would benefit from it? Who gets let off the hook for enabling the * rush to war? And why would these two guys just now be coming out?

There were many people on this board and elsewhere who were astounded and disgusted by the actions of politicians "swallowing" the * admn rationales for going to war--those reasons were trumped up, false, and promulgated ad nauseum--and for enabling the silly fucks to play at warrior/world dominators.

Enough with revisionist shit.

NoFederales

[wiggs]

100. Yes. Evidence was flimsy from the beginning. In addition it is axiomatic that

intelligence is right only half the time AND YOU DON'T GO TO WAR ON UNCERTAIN EVIDENCE. That's why the so-called Bush Doctrine of pre-emptive war is faulty...it requires perfection in intelligence-gathering and in oversight.... impossible.

I might add that that the invasion was not pre-emptive (legal) but it was preventative (illegal).

All this was known at the time. The IWR passed because pugs and enough dems wanted this to happen...as did the media and watchdog groups. I certainly believe that the WH had information that congress did not...but it would have been easy for congress to slow things down, ask questions, and get to the bottom of it if they wanted.

[Lugnut]

20. Can we impeach now?

:grr:

[itsrobert]

21. Why is this considered an "opinion" piece?

This reads like an actual news story, not just someone's opinion.

[mmonk]

43. Truth is now considered to be just an opinion of radical leftists.

[Cabcere]

57. Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

- Colbert

[progressoid]

59. If Novak wrote it, THEN it would be news.

[lala_rawraw]

82. because it has to be

put into that section for non-registered users

[TheWraith]

22. I don't think Bush knows NOW that Saddam didn't have banned weapons.

Sure, he can be told it, but this is the guy who perfected faith-based policy. Facts don't enter into it.

[Divine Discontent]

28. he's quite possibly functionally insane...

seriously it seems, like you say, that the facts seem to escape him, and yet he goes on believing whatever he speaks...


f'n nuts!

IMPEACH ALREADY!

[hisownpetard]

115. I have been seriously wondering about this very issue: is he, indeed, insane?

At this point, his mindset seems not just off kilter but deliberately contrary
to all the facts and findings. What if he is verifiably insane - how would we know?
And are WeThePeople to sit by, twiddling our thumbs, while this evil, illiterate megalomaniac
leads us blithely into war with Iran?

I'm not ranting: I'm serious!

[Dangerman]

23. George Bush, YOU BASTARD!

You invaded a defenseless, sovereign country knowing that Saddam had no WMDs, even if you insisted at the time that he does!

Go to Hell Mr. President! You and your sh*thead goons!

[chknltl]

24. We ALL knew prior to the fiasco that Saddam was no martyr

He never gave ANYONE the notion that he was a martyr. Ask even the densest freeper if Saddam were a martyr and the response will be: HELL NO!
Another-words We ALL knew that Saddam was no martyr!

He proved that to us during the first Gulf War. Did Saddam stand his ground and lead a mighty defense of Kuwait? Nope! As soon as The Coalition Forces started into Iraq his mighty army skedadled...
Saddam himself led that retreat from the SAFETY OF A BUNKER IN BAGHDAD! Speaking of holes in the ground, remember where Saddam was eventually found just after the fall of Baghdad? Not a very martyrly spot to defend if you ask me!

My point? If Saddam HAD actually unleashed a WMD ANYWHERE after 9-11 his life would have been measured in mere days at best! Go ahead ask ANY freeper what would have happened (after 9-11) had Saddam hit Israel with a small nuke...or Kuwait with Anthrax...yep, the entire world would have hit the pause button and focused all their energies on finding, trying and stringing up Saddam!

Guess what? Saddam Hussein was very much aware of this too! The utter LAST thing he wanted was to use a WMD in any offensive way. His primary function in life was in hanging on as Dictator over a country which was under an international microscope! Hell, he couldn't even have shot spitwads through a straw across the Iraqi border after 9-11!

Naturally MOST folks here in America were not thinking along such lines during the run-up to the bush war. We were in a fierce propaganda shitstorm here, being made to fear Anthrax and Mushroom clouds and such...hindsight may be 20-20 but SOME of us knew that Saddam was NO martyr!

Maybe we should invade Ecuador next! I strongly doubt there are any martyrs about to unleash non-existent WMDs on the world in Ecuador right now! If that ain't a great reason for invading them....!

Ecuador IS much closer to America and think of the gas we could save! When the good citizens of Ecuador get upset by our invasion we could give them all guns and get them to shoot at each other, teach them how to make anti-tank devices and maybe blame Paraguay for all the violence!

Yep we better invade Ecuador right now! If you don't want a mushroom cloud over Osh Kosh then you better support this invasion! You are either with us on this or you are with the terrorists! I am absolutely sure that we can find Al-KAIDA training camps on the outskirts of Quito! I'll bet you did not know that most Ecuadorians secretly hate Israel too! Isn't it time we brought Democracy to Ecuador? (btw: I hear they may be developing nukes!) (and rockets that can cross the Atlantic to Israel)

[libnnc]

25. Christ what is it going to take?

Insanity.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

135. Revolution. (n/t)

[Cleita]

26. Not to mention that the weapons' inspectors kept telling him

so, Scott Ritter and Hans Blix. I read someplace that Cheney was talking about going to war with Iraq only days after 9-11 occurred.

[orleans]

29. k&r&impeach that fucking asshole! n/t

[pacalo]

30. The boy king's lies...

"required U.S. soldiers to receive medical shots against the ill effects of WMD and to wear protective uniforms in the desert."

[othermeans]

31. Here's my prediction: Bush will finish his term no impeachment will ever touch

him. He'll retire to Dallas Ft. Worth (that is where Pickles wants to settle) make loads of money doing speaking engagements and all of our bitching won't amount to a hill of beans.

[ClintonTyree]

35. How many people will pay to listen to.....

this ignorant fuck-up? Sure, there are the 25%ers that would follow him to the gates of hell, but how many times are they going to pony up big bucks for the treat of listening to the same ignorant drivel? Bush plans on making all this money after his pResidency is over, to fill the old coffers :eyes: but who is going to listen to the mental midget more than once?

I think a vast majority of Americans can't wait to forget the most fucked up pResident this country has ever had. They don't want to be reminded of his constant blunders and destruction of our Democracy.

Relegated to the dust bin of history, he'll be, and not a moment too soon. I can't see him making "big bucks" on the lecture circuit, I really can't. :shrug:

[rambler_american]

36. "Relegated to the dust bin of history, he'll be"

Not exactly. I expect that he'll be found in the history books in much the same way Hitler is along with the other evil bastards. He should NOT be forgotten. :mad:

[pokercat999]

47. His corporate sponsors will provide the bucks. Every

box of cereal, tissue, gum, golf tees, every gallon of gas, everything you own was produced by a corporation most likely to buy some of an ex-pResident's time. He will speak of the glorious days of making those tough decisions to send "our boys" into harms way.

It makes me want to :puke:

So in the end it's you and me that will be providing the "big bucks" on the lecture circuit. A small percentage of the profit on the things we must buy will be going into the pockets of a war criminal the Dem's are too afraid of to impeach. This government makes me want to :puke:

[liberation]

40. ... and once the country recovers

There will be a new generation of Bushs ready to leach our country.

Just like a good parasite, the Bushs know not to kill the host... just suck enough to leave it weak as to not fight the invasion but healthy enough to recover ever so slightly as to start producing the nutrients again. And then you suck again...


We will be a sick society as long as we allow the parasite.

[Red Zelda]

48. So true

Bush is Jesus.

[bdamomma]

53. he thinks so, but he isn't more like a spawn of the devil

how can we let this lunatic remain in office to take us down with him is mind boggling.

[progressoid]

58. Yep...n/t

[pingzing58]

32. Condolizza Rice is complicit in this crime and she should not be forgotten for what she has done!

[hisownpetard]

116. And for what she hasn't done, as well. n/t

[iLikeJello]

33. Bush = War Criminal

I have no words for this. Even though I'm not surprised, I'm pissed as hell.

Go to hell, you scumbag. And take Cheney with you.

[OneBlueSky]

34. there are two -- and only two -- reasons that we invaded Iraq . . .

1) the oil, and

2) Bush's perverted desire to be a "war president"

in the process of making himself a war president, he also made himself a war criminal of the first order . . . that Congress continues to refuse to initiate impeachment proceeding is, by now, a crime in and of itself . . . by not impeaching, they are enabling the ongoing destruction of a sovereign nation and the ongoing murder of its citizens -- not to mention the ongoing death toll among our own troops . . .

Congress . . . Impeach him before he strikes again (i.e. Iran)! . . .

[ProfessorGAC]

77. I've Got One More

3) His constituency is highly moneyed folks with direct interest in the defense industries. The inventories needed to be thinned to justify new spending. No peace dividend is to be allowed, so a war is needed, and a scary enemy is to be vanquished to justify a few hundred billion more that otherwise would not have been needed to be spent.

I think the oil is a secondary gain.
The Professor

[acmavm]

37. Take this story and combine it with the one that told of how Saddam tried

to cut a deal, even stepping down from power, in order to avoid war and what do you have?

International war crimes on a scale that would make any amoral, sociopathic dictator proud.

[Pooka Fey]

38. Well, it's a good thing Congress has all that dry powder lying around.

[liberal N proud]

39. Is impeachment still off the table?

Nancy, a nation wants to know if their President is a crook.

Most of us already know he is.

[leftchick]

41. "Curveball" again

I imagine he is living off our dime somewhere for his service to the neocons.....

<snip>

On the eve of Sabri's appearance at the United Nations in September 2002 to present Saddam's case, the officer in charge of this operation met in New York with a "cutout" who had debriefed Sabri for the CIA. Then the officer flew to Washington, where he met with CIA deputy director John McLaughlin, who was "excited" about the report. Nonetheless, McLaughlin expressed his reservations. He said that Sabri's information was at odds with "our best source." That source was code-named "Curveball," later exposed as a fabricator, con man and former Iraqi taxi driver posing as a chemical engineer.

[Disturbed]

42. Remember that disgusting skit of Busholini searching for WMDs?

This man is a perverted Sociopath. The Dems in Congress know this. They know about the Torture, rendition & secret torture prisons. Congress is complicit in all of this. Something is seriously wrong in America.

[leftchick]

44. I certainly do

and you are correct. Let's add to that Global Warming as we melt again today in 100 degree heat and realize that they are doing NOTHING to stop it. I weep for my children's future. :cry:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1744145

[Laura PourMeADrink]

49. amen. I am in Texas and it has rained every day - when it's

usually dry as a bone. When you fly over it you can't even recognize it - because it's so green. Prettier - but scarier. What have we done to our planet?

[snappyturtle]

89. Amen here too! I'm in TX and it looks like Irish hillsides in the springtime!

Something is very wrong in America....liars, thieves, spin doctors and their like are ru(i)nning the place!

If this knowledge (no WMDs) isn't impeachable, what is? What do we do with it? I doubt this will lead off the evening news.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

95. LOL "Irish hillsides" - You are so right. And so much of it is

unseen - poison in the air and water. And now even Barbie is poisoned with lead.

[Beausoleil]

60. That's why he thought it was so funny

He knew the whole thing was a scam, that there never were any WMDs. Thing is we weren't in on the scam so the "humor" was lost on us.

Yuk, yuk!

[motocicleta]

45. WAKE UP AMERICA! ITMFA!

K n R

[Laura PourMeADrink]

46. Liar

[trusty elf]

50. One DULLARD AND NO SENSE !

[rateyes]

51. What the HELL is it going to TAKE?

IMPEACH, INDICT, IMPRISON!

[Vinca]

54. Ditto what you said.

:mad:

[rateyes]

55. Hey, Vinca....

How goes it? :hi:

[Broadslidin]

68. Tis obvious, the Dem. Party is Afraid of a Southern 'God Fearing' Voter Backlash....

Since our Imperial Empire is constitutionally condemned
to an entrenched two party political biz...

The Dem. Party fully understands,
Without a Strong Authoritarian Father Figure
from a Southern State on the Dem. Party ticket,

the Rep. Party machine can be expected to spit out
yet another
"Fearless Leader" winner,
dressed up as a benevolent 'Christian' man.

[glitch]

96. don't forget

REPARATIONS

[TankLV]

139. not imprison - EXECUTE!

[goodhue]

56. of course he knew

and he didn't care

[racaulk]

61. I wonder why the liberal media isn't covering this?

Hmmm...

:sarcasm:

K&R

[PianoBlack]

62. Yeah...

More of the same old same old.

And here for a long time I made fun of the US intelligence...the intelligence was good...it's the president who is incompetent. Isn't that lovely!?

[kysrsoze]

63. gonna kick it root down.

[NastyDiaper]

64. Cheney: "Everyone Thought Saddam Had WMD's"

The Biggest Lie Ever continues.
He knew that Saddam DIDN'T have WMD's.
The world's problem, and congress too, turned out that they trusted the WHIG's.

Yet the Kleptocracy appears firmly in place as congress ignores HR333.

[The Count]

65. Sydney, Sydney, Sydney - there were many other sources the Senate Intelligence Committee

HAD access to - some of them, the ones that lead Powell in 2001 to make a speech about them, some of them that lead Clinton to say it in 2002 in a speech to CFR. Carl Levin mentioned the existance of such information - so nice try letting the accomplice senators of the hook.
As for bush hiding information from congress - we already knew that GOP-ers in congress got different info than democrats. Nothing new here - but glad it's underscored that Bush lied, there was no "mistake" as they keep telling us.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

70. but George TENET said all this in his book

I guess Tenet couldn't get the message through to Bush that Wolfowitz, cheney and the rest were hell bent on having the Iraq invasion. He also said that CIA's documents/memos etc were re written/changed by aides in the Bush administration (cooked)? Can't remember who, Hadley maybe? I think the info was also shared with the Pentagon but was ignored. Powell was too weak to say anything. He knew the intelligence was faulty!

I think Senators are lying that they didn't know. If they had been proper and competent representatives of the people they would have delved a little deeper as they do have access to this information. I think the Democrats were in war mode at the time after 9/11 so they wouldn't appear weak.

[redqueen]

73. I suspect they're lying, too.

And if they were so gullible as to be fooled by neo-cons once, I sure don't trust them not to do so again.

[EFerrari]

88. Tenet was too busy having a power struggle with Deadeye Dick

to do his job.

[SpiralHawk]

71. "Smirk, smirk, smirk" - Commander AWOL

[mdmc]

72. no need to impeach - CORPORATIONS are fine with this news

The military-industrial complex thinks the Iraq war is the way to go.

Impeach for the people already.

[Marnieworld]

75. Is this finally it? Is this enough?

In a sane world this would desteroy them. Do we live in a sane world? :grr:

[Raster]

76. Oh, hell! I was wearing a blue dress and I gave bush* a blowjob!

Now can we impeach? Enough already!:kick:IMPEACH!

[BlueEyedSon]

78. Oh yeah, like I'm shocked

[BurtWorm]

79. KICK

Must read!

http://www.salon.com/opinion/blumenthal/2007/09/06/bush_wmd/

[Major Hogwash]

80. Maybe this will be the final nail in Bush's coffin. Some legacy this clown will have.

Not only have many people been saying this for years, but there has been no backlash for Bush lieing about WMDS.

Bush's "joke" at the 2004 White House correspondence dinner, in which he was 'looking' for WMD's in the White House wasn't funny then, and it's even less funny now.

[ProSense]

81. Evil!

In the beginning, Bush lied

And that's why this monster, traitor and clearlysoulless jerk should be impeached!

[Cha]

83. Of course, buSHIT knew that..

he doesn't know much but he knew that. The little wracked up blubbering slob.

[dogday]

84. He did not listen to them before 9-11 when they warned

about a plan for using planes as weapons and flying them into buildings, and he did not listen to them before he went into Iraq... He never listens to them apparently...

[milord]

86. What? Bush lied?

The man is a criminal and should be in jail. No question about it. So let's do it!

[donkeyotay]

87. Bush's rush to get his war on before it got hot and to bring down gas prices

blew through another big stop sign: the UN and the reasonable need to build a (real) coalition. Here's Senator Wellstone in his last speech of opposition:


"...the U.S. should unite the world against Saddam, and not allow him to unite forces against us.

A go-it-alone approach, allowing for a ground invasion of Iraq without the support of other countries, could give Saddam exactly that chance. A pre-emptive go-it-alone strategy towards Iraq is wrong. I oppose it." ...

...in recent weeks, I and others including...Brent Scowcroft...James Baker...Senator Hagel...General Anthony Zinni and other leading US military leaders have raised serious questions about the approach the Administration is taking on Iraq.

There have been questions raised about the nature and urgency of Iraq's threat, our response to that threat, and against whom, exactly that threat is directed. What is the best course of action that the U.S. could take to address the threat? What are the economic, political, and national security consequences of possible U.S. or U.S.-British invasion of Iraq? There have been questions raised about the consequences of our actions abroad, including its effects on the continuing war on terrorism, our ongoing efforts to stabilize and rebuild Afghanistan, and efforts to calm the intensifying Middle East crisis, especially the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And there have been questions raised about the consequences of our actions here at home.

Of first and greatest concern, obviously, are the questions raised about the possible loss of life that could result from our actions. The United States could send tens of thousands of U.S. troops to fight in Iraq, and in so doing we could risk countless lives, of U.S. soldiers and innocent Iraqis. There are other questions, about the impact of an attack in relation to our economy. The United States could face soaring oil prices and could spend billions both on a war and on a years-long effort to stabilize Iraq after an invasion. The resolution we will be debating today would explicitly authorize a go-it-alone approach. ...

Acting with the support of allies, including hopefully Arab and Muslim allies, would limit possible damage to that coalition and our anti-terrorism efforts. But as General Wes Clark, former Supreme Commander of Allied Forces in Europe has recently noted, a premature go-it-alone invasion of Iraq "would super-charge recruiting for Al Qaida."

http://www.wellstone.org/archive/article_detail.aspx?itemID=5423&catID=3605

[snappyturtle]

92. This speech was given on October 3, 2002. Paul Wellstone

died October 25, 2002! Enough said.

[donkeyotay]

98. Changed the balance of the senate and removed THE best voice for opposition to war.

Happy, happy coincidences. Trifecta squared. With Wellstone alive, we might have been able to stop this thing.

[snappyturtle]

104. I lived close to the crash site.....I will never forget the awful, sickening

feeling in the very pit of my stomach........it hasn't gone away. It was certainly a time that reasoned voices were few.

[kestrel91316]

90. Impeach. Now.

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Oh, yeah. Did I mention that I think we should impeach this TREASONOUS BASTARD NOW? Hanging's too good for him.

[Supersedeas]

91. But but but the Corp Media keeps shouting that Tenet told * it was a slam dunk

[debbierlus]

93. A big ol KICK - Can we imeach NOW????

Isn't lying to Congress to start a war the ultimate treasonous act?

IMPEACH & TRY FOR WAR CRIMES

ENOUGH

[pauldp]

94. Will you whack-job conspiracy theorists just STOP already! Jesus!

:sarcasm:

[Buns_of_Fire]

97. Tsk. You're all living in the PAST!

After all, IT ISN'T IMPORTANT HOW WE GOT THERE. Now we HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND THE BEST WAY TO PRESERVE THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT. After all, IRAQ IS NOW IN THE FRONT LINES OF THE GLOBAL WAR ON TERRORISM. THERE IS NO GOOD REASON TO LOOK TO LAY BLAME ON ANYONE. (I know this isn't necessary, but I'll drop it in anyway: :sarcasm: )

For an administration that gave lots of lip service to "accountability," they've sure bent over backward to avoid any accountability -- for anything.

And while I'm on the subject, if I hear "the administration" used as a euphemism for boosh* one more time, I think I'm going to scream. That little shithead wanted to be a Uninary Executive so damned bad ("L'etat c'est moi"), I'm more than willing to hang every ignorant decision made since early 2001 DIRECTLY on his sloping, receiver-wired, Kevlar-draped shoulders.

Screw these people. I damned sure AM looking to lay blame on someone! And guess who?

[Mrspeeker]

102. Gee ya think

LOL

[Initech]

103. It's now becoming painfully obvious that he was determined to get to Iraq at any cost.

And yet, there seems to be nothing we can do to stop the war-mongering asshole.

[endarkenment]

105. Duh.

Double Duh.

No wait, make that the:

BIG DUH

[focusfan]

106. you know whats bad is the sorry s.o.b will walk out of the white house

Scott free.him and Cheney both I wish he could get his 

[Disturbed]

107. ".it's the president who is incompetent"

The US Corp Media would rather have us believe that this Silver Spoon Sociopath in incompetent than what he really is: Evil

Most of the Dems in Congress want the US Occupation to continue while saying the opposite. The Dems are complicit in the deceit of the Busholini Regime. Remember the words "Our vital interests"? What are those?

[Cronopio]

108. Sorry folks, but until truth comes back into style, the unwritten rules of insider politics says ...

... powerful and organized corruption gets away with it.

Still waiting and hoping to get proven wrong on this.

[Raejeanowl]

109. By Any Means Necessary

No lie too great, no cost too dear, no sleight-of-hand too convoluted, no doublespeak too garbled, no crime too illegal, no atrocity too immoral (you kind folks can probably come up with a continuing string), Bush and Cheney wanted into Iraq, for paybacks, for pocket-lining, for payoffs to favored associates.

These bastards are going to be dead and beyond earthly punishment before very long. We're going to have a whole NEW generation of Vets who won't get proper care through the VA for their injuries and exposures, most of whom will have to limp along for many decades to come, no one to make accountable, no way to adequately compensate them for their sacrifices. And the guys who did it to them will have escaped justice.

[Duppers]

111. Draper, who authored 'Dead Certain' said:

Bush ‘Still Believed Saddam Possessed WMD’ In April 2006

In Oct. 2004, President Bush finally admitted that Saddam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction: “Iraq did not have the weapons that our intelligence believed were there.”

Yet according to former White House chief of staff Andy Card, this statement was just rhetoric. In his new book on Bush, Robert Draper writes that the President continued to privately insist through April 2006 that Saddam had possessed weapons of mass destruction:

Bush, for his part, was not disposed to second-guessing. Throughout 2006, he read historical texts relating to Lincoln, Churchill, and Truman — three wartime leaders, the latter two of whom left office to something less than public acclaim. History would acquit him, too. Bush was confident of that, and of something else as well. Though it was not the sort of thing one could say publicly anymore, the president still believed that Saddam had possessed weapons of mass destruction. He repeated this conviction to Andy Card all the way up until Card’s departure in April 2006, almost exactly three years after the Coalition had begun its fruitless search for WMDs.

Bush’s belief is nothing more than a delusion. Between the U.S. invasion and April 2006, numerous government inspectors concluded, beyond a doubt, that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction. Evidently, none of these were conclusive enough to convince the President that he was wrong:

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/09/05/bush-wmd-card/




Bush must have believed his own lies, according to Robert Draper, or bush was scamming this author. What a surprise, uh. There are other contradictions in Draper's book, "Dead Certain."

Either sick, twisted, incompetent, and delusional, or purposefully lying.

All reasons for IMPEACHMENT.

[View from Here]

112. Part of the problem here was

the complete abdication of the media from their basic responsibility to do investigative reporting

[JCMach1]

113. And of course none of them believed the UN weapons inspectors

:grr:

Even this report glosses over the mountain of information that was out there. It wasn't just dection on Bush's part, it was self-deception on the part of those Dems who supported IWR.

Or, even more disgusting a tactical political move for short-term perceived gain.

[MidwestTransplant]

114. Why believe him when you can believe Chalabi the Iranian agent or Curve Ball who was just paid

for false intel...more money for more sensationalist intelligence.

[roxnev]

117. The truth is

Bush has now murdered 3,700 plus military, in the quest for Big Oil, oil. If you can add 2+2 watch this Doc. On the sun Dance Chanel. I watched it last night it is on to night at 12:30 in Las Vegas. It is the scariest film I have ever seen

[robertpaulsen]

118. Alternate history headline: CIA SMOKING GUN PROOF OF BUSH GUILT AT THE HAGUE.

The only real question then should be whether Bush and Cheney should spend the rest of their lives in prison or face the same fate as Nazis like Eichmann at the Nuremburg trials.

[still_one]

120. so please tell me again pelosi why we can't impeach?

[BrklynLiberal]

124. Was there ever any doubt that prez Shit-for-brains could not have cared less whether or not Saddam

actually had any WMDs? He was just doing what Uncle Dick told him to do, so he could get some candy and watch TV before he went to bed.

[brettdale]

125. hmm I wonder why?

The MSM arent reporting this.

[jazzjunkysue]

126. Keith reporting live NOW!!!!!!!!

[HowHasItComeToThis]

127. I MUST HAVE MY DIRTY LITTLE WAR...

KARL SAYS IT WILL MAKE ME FAMOUS.

[The_Casual_Observer]

128. We knew it all along. I still don't understand why the press went

along in cahoots with jr. on this war shit. Was it mass hysteria that allowed the bastard an in to pull the whole thing off?

[bamacrat]

130. This should be investigated.

So many things are coming out lately documenting how Bush lied, covered shit up etc.. yet we still can't impeach him? Hey but maybe he CAN'T be impeached. Think about it.

[MisterHowdy]

131. already knew that, but n/t

n/t

[southerncrone]

132. Treason. Pure & simple. Impeachable offense.

[WCGreen]

133. They all should be tried as mass murderers on the scale of

Pol Pot...

[Imagevision]

134. Only goes to prove occupying Iraq is much bigger then Bush, big business

founded this country and the same big business will continue to run it, whether it be Bush or Hillary.
Hillary gets to enjoy all the crooked laws in place Gonzo pushed through for the traitor.

[emulatorloo]

136. KICK n/t

[TankLV]

137. So what are our spineless dems gonna do about it! NOTHING!

They're gonna get away with it.

bush* and cheney etall should be TRIED AND EXECUTED.

EVERYTHING we've been saying for YEARS has slowly and steadily been proven correct.

NOTHING the opposition and naysayers here on DU has ever been found to be true...

EVERYTHING has ALWAYS been STEADILY AND CONTINUALLY moving in ONE DIRECTION - that bush* COMMITTED WAR CRIMES.

NOT ONCE has it gone the other way. NOT ONCE...

And they will get away with it...

[Major Hogwash]

140. Nobody on the news even mentioned this article today.

Not even USA Today.

I wonder why.