Were there 5 nukes or 6? I've read both.

[lonestarnot]

[autorank]

1. One would be too many, but I heard two.

How do you do that by mistake. Do they hate the midwest or something. I thought that was
"the heartland."

[lonestarnot]

2. two? nope haven't read that one yet.

[bahrbearian]

3. Do you think that they would give us a straight answer?

I don't recall. I don't remember,, hey, how about a new one "I was out of the loop"

[lonestarnot]

4. No, But the leaker, what did he/she say?

[bahrbearian]

14. there were 6 but they returned 5

[seemslikeadream]

5. is there one missing?

[lonestarnot]

10. Who the hell knows.

But I'm not falling for the mistake bullshit, not even for a second. Same feeling as 9/11 the day of, sitting watching it occur on the TV from the moment I saw it posted by Texas Lawyer or whoever. link I will find.

Here it says 5 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2978074

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. started wiht five and now gone to six

that alone makes me nervous

[lonestarnot]

7. All of it is just too fucking disturbing. Most alarming bullshit to date.

[burythehatchet]

8. you tell me...do you feel lucky, punk?...well do ya?

[lonestarnot]

12. What's with the punk shit?

You a bushitler think alike tonight?

[burythehatchet]

18. reference to the classic Dirty Harry line. No harm intended

[lonestarnot]

28. Oh.

In that case, peace, carry-on :patriot:

[MannyGoldstein]

9. Six When It Took Off - Five When It Landed (n/t)

[lonestarnot]

11. Nice.

Link?

[MADem]

22. no--see the reason below--reporting error by the story source. NT

[MADem]

21. No--it was an error on the part of the source to the story, later corrected.

http://www.militarytimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_nuclear_warhead_070905/

It was originally reported that five nuclear warheads were transported, but officers who tipped Military Times to the incident who have asked to remain anonymous since they are not authorized to discuss the incident, have since updated that number to six.

Air Force and defense officials would not confirm the missiles were armed with nuclear warheads Wednesday, citing longstanding policy, but they did confirm the Air Force was “investigating an error made last Thursday during the transfer of munitions” from Minot to Barksdale.

The original plan was to transport non-nuclear Advanced Cruise Missiles, mounted on the wings of a B-52, to Barksdale as part of a Defense Department effort to decommission 400 of the ACMs. It was not discovered that the six missiles had nuclear warheads until the plane landed at Barksdale, leaving the warheads unaccounted for during the approximately 3 1/2 hour flight between the two bases, the officers said.

[lonestarnot]

29. Caught your answer on down thread. Thanks MaDerm.

[seemslikeadream]

13. Kent Conrad and Byron Dorgan, learned of the bomber mishap on September 4th in classified briefings.

http://www.kfyrtv.com/News_video.asp?news=10196



http://www.kfyrtv.com/News_Stories.asp?news=10196

[lonestarnot]

15. Thanks SLAD.

[lonestarnot]

17. 5 days after the fact.

[Ready4Change]

16. That's my biggest question.

I can see this transfer being leaked to send a message, either by our leaders to some external entity, or by someone within spilling the beans on the operation for their own motivations. Either of those could be the case. Have been before. Will be again. No biggie to me.

But the question of 6, then 5? In our current circumstances? Anyone with a hint of paranoia can piece together a reason for this out of our brew of a very unpopular president and administration, a wavery War in Iraq, a seemingly abandoned War on Terror, rampant misinformation campaigns, and who knows what the hell else.

Even a HINT of a single loose nuke? Anyone in a position of power with even an taint of integrity should be busting down doors to get the real poop on that.

Who the hell is busting down doors? No one.

[lonestarnot]

19. And military investigations take oh about foreva.

[MADem]

20. Six. The original report said five, but the corrected one said six. NT

[lonestarnot]

23. Did someone finally count what showed up?

LOL OMG :rofl: Someone could finally count to six at the destination?

[MADem]

24. Military Times broke this story, and their source was an officer or officers at the base.

Those officers, who are still anonymous, corrected the number--they were the ones who originally said five, and called the reporter and corrected it.

[lonestarnot]

25. Thanks MADem.

They are in the crapper for reporting to the reporter. Whistleblower protections apply I guess, but if they were career, they can forget about it now.

[MADem]

26. They're anonymous. Known to the reporter, though. Those papers are not DOD. They're indy.

It's a bunch of crusty guys who know the various branches of the military pretty well. They aren't MEAN to the military, because they're smart enough not to bite the hand that feeds them. They want their papers in every exchange around the world. They want subscriptions to every department, division, and leader, paid for by the commands. They want individual subscribers, too.

They'll happily do a puff piece on some brass asshole to curry favor, but they also LOVE a juicy scandal--it sells papers.

They have offices not far from the Pentagon, an easy commute from Springfield VA. They go all over hell for a good story, though--and, like I said, they love a scandal. They'll protect their sources, too.

[lonestarnot]

27. I hope they are not ferreted away for a fingernail job until they divulge their sources.

[MADem]

33. Hell, it could be one of the duty officers--and not even someone who was on the flight line

You know how it is when you have the duty--the shit may roll downhill, but someone has to prepare the shit (to include the AwwwwSHIT message traffic) and get that uphill over the wire to the brass. And then, since this event probably had some serious back-and-forth over a couple of days once Congress started asking for details, there were likely a LOAD of duty officers briefed on this, to say nothing of the PAO, everyone in the Weapons Department, every idiot on the flight line whispering...I'm sure there are probably too many sources to pin it down, unless someone's giving out serial numbers of weapons!! This was a beaut of a fuckup--one for the decade, really. Careers WILL end over this 'un.

[entanglement]

30. 6 in all. 5 carried by the B-52, the 6th one went to Ebay.

:P

[emilyg]

31. LOL

[tyedyeto]

32. Edited to say

Where is the 6th one? Is it truly missing? If so, will it be used against Americans? (tinfoil hat time or is it?).