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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:34 PM
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Have any Du'ers read Scott Fitzgerald...beyond Highschool reading for " Great Gatsby?"
Edited on Thu Sep-06-07 06:39 PM by KoKo01
Reason I ask...is that he wrote so much BEYOND Gatsby...about stock market crash..times of the 20's when THINGS WERE GREAT...and his vision of what would come after.

If you haven't read Fitzgerald beyond Gatsby...here's some stuff. I'm thinking that Fitgerald was a little ahead in VISION...and if he's not visionary ....he wrote some great romantic stuff that DU'ers might want to visit...since it's NOT what "REQUIRED READING" your English Teacher or Professor MADE YOU READ...it's the "other stuff that Scott wrote that might be a good read for "Our Times." :shrug:


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F. Scott Fitzgerald: Under the Influence
Editorial Reviews
Book Description
F. Scott Fitzgerald was an artist of extraordinary literary talent who tried to synthesize the ideas and events around him and give them personal expression. And, he was more than that. He and Zelda were personal participants who defined and helped to shape much of what is American. Their lives and American life are so intertwined that they seem impervious to an unwinding. They defined the Jazz Age through self-advertisements; then, Scott gave the epoch its name. Americans generally were obsessed
Fitzgerald's life and novels continue to personify the great contradictions in American culture and in American capitalism. Fitzgerald's novels-especially The Beautiful and Damned, The Great Gatsby and Tender is the Night- can tell us about our past but just as much about the present and our future. Notably, Scott had originally set Gatsby in the Gilded Age, an age of excesses similar to those of the 1920s. Today the Casino Economy-beginning in the early 1980s and becoming global-has remarkable parallels to these earlier epochs.

Then, the inevitable; the crashes came. A banking panic in 1907 ended the Gilded Age though not the gild, the Crash of 1929 ended the Jazz Age though not "all that jazz," and the collapse of the technology-driven Nasdaq in 2001 brought an end to the most notorious players in the Casino Economy though not its legacy. Zelda, on the precipice at an earlier age than most supposed then or since, crashed shortly after the stock market. Although the public was unaware of Zelda's plunge, only the Great Depression upstaged Scott's "crack-up." As he dispassionately acknowledged, his literary reputation had gone the way of the economy, as had his earnings from the Saturday Evening Post that sustained his little family.

Though Scott's novels have long been on required reading lists around the world, Fitzgerald and Zelda's cultural presence ebbs and flows. There nonetheless was, of course, a "first" Fitzgerald Revival. It came during the early 1950s-being first literary, but inevitably leading to a renewal of his cultural significance. The Fitzgerald Revival now underway is, if anything, even more confounding because it follows some serious academic studies, yet derives its inert velocity from the vibrant personalities of Zelda and Scott, while its deeper significance once again is properly attributed to Scott.


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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:37 PM
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1. I have not, but thanks for the rec...
I will put that on my wish list of reading..
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:43 PM
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2. I'm in the midst of a rereading of "Tender is the Night"
A favorite of mine.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 06:57 PM
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3. Yes...and there's so much else...his short stories and other novels...
Good night Reading...but for DU Romantic/Realists....I would thing. But he was GOOD...and his time might be coming again.......given the Bush ties to the Financial World that Scott was trying to fit into as an impoverished writer who had a past that went between living on the "dole" or having a benefactor get him into the World of the High Rollers.

If anyone wants and "past read" that portends of American Future...Scott Fitzgerald is your man. He was a contemporary of Hemingway..(the best Repug read anyone would ever want) but Scott put the "human face" on those times. Hemingway..(I think) was doing his "man's view (Bush World) that would last the test of time far beyond Fitzgerald.

Yet...Fitzgerald is more resonant in these very sad times we live in...where he pointed to much that would transpire when GREED overcomes Sensibilities.

His life is the life of what happened to him...when the "have nots" try to live like the "haves." :-(

And WHO ARE THE "CHOSEN!" Bush, Inc. are obviously (from what we've seen) THE CHOSEN...
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 07:06 PM
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4. Yes, I read alot of his short stories ages ago. I had a large volume
of his short stories and read quite a bit. I was single and not dating much then, so I read alot. Enjoyed reading him thoroughly.

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:06 PM
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9. I read everything I could find of his..years ago.,,
but he popped into my mind when I was watching CNBC tonight where they were yammering on about Ben Bernanke saving us from Market Implosion and Disaster...and I had this epiphany..."SCOTT FITZGERALD" came into my mind...and I knew i had to go to the library and get out the books and short stories that i loved to read awhile back. Scott taught me to be very wary about live and stock markets and folks like the "entitled Bushies" and the "RICH who are different from you and me...."

I thought I'd pass it along here for those like me who might want to read him again and those who haven't. We don't do much with American Authors anymore past High School...and he's a great read...for romance and realism...

Thanks to those who've read him on this thread and have replied! :hi: :grouphug:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 07:10 PM
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5. I've read every SS and novel by him..I think he's my favorite author lol
Yes, he is one of the most important American writers ever because he wrote while America was on a high, but he still saw the dark underside of even our glory days.

"A Diamond as big as the Ritz" is also probably one of the earliest...sci-fi stories I've encountered.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 07:11 PM
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6. A Diamond as Big As The Ritz
and everything else he ever wrote.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 07:14 PM
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7. LOL I beat you
See the post above yours ;)
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:08 PM
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11. So you did!
Though I wouldn't call it a sci-fi story; fantasy yes. Speaking of Sci-fi stories, have you ever read any of E.M. Forester's?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:07 PM
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10. That's a good one....and one folks don't usually come across...thanks! n/t
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 07:44 PM
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8. I have - I love his work.
You know, I haven't read anything by him in about a year and half...think it's time to go back and re-read some! Thanks for the idea!!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-06-07 09:31 PM
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12. It's been longer than that for me...and I loved his short stories, too.
There was an anthology of them out way back. Maybe it's available in libraries. For folks who don't like to read novels...the short stories are a good read, too.

I haven't checked my library recently. I wonder if they still carry Fitzgerald's work...like the short stories...not just "Great Gatsby" which I didn't think was his best work...but English teachers did.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:59 PM
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13. After another Market Crash Today...maybe reading Scottie...would
be something good to do over the weekend...when news is slow and there's only Tim Russert to look forward to on Sunday Morning. Or...maybe Howie Kurtz talking about the "Media."
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:54 PM
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14. Mostly his shorter fiction.
I've never done novels very well.

I think Fitzgerald is one of the greatest writers of the 20th century. His style is so deceptively simple. Yet, he always manages to evoke a good deal of emotion in me, while telling one helluva story.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:58 PM
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15. His short stories are good reads...and worth it...if one can't hack going through
the novels. With all of us these days...reading long stuff is hard to do. But, his short stories stand up...Thanks the post! Hopefully if some DU'ers haven't discovered him they could read a few short stories in an anthology in the library or do a Google Amazon and find a collection and read some reviews .
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MUSTANG_2004 Donating Member (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:18 PM
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16. The crashes weren't inevitable
There seems to be a general opinion among economists that the Great Depression would have been a far less severe had the Fed (and other countries) reacted to prevent the money supply from shrinking so drastically.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:22 PM
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17. Almost everything
usually more than once. This might be a good time to go back and re-read some more.

I love his work. There is a lot going on today that is relevant to the times he wrote about, when there was so much disparity between haves and have nots; exposing the seamy underbelly of the moneyed class.

And boy howdy did they know how to party. I always think of him and the Great Gatsby every summer solstice.
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