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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:45 PM
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Remembering 2002
When I try to recall being alive in 2002, my mind comes up with snapshots, glimpses, echoes, but hardly anything that is firm enough to grab and hold. I know I was teaching, and remember that context vividly. I lived in Cambridge, and can remember some of that. For the most part, however, 2002 is a lost year, a miserable year, there was so much fear on every face. We had not yet found stable ground, and were reminded of the whole ghastly nightmare every time the sky was blue, every time an airplane crossed the city skyline.

There were no trash barrels in the subway stations anymore, because someone could put a bomb in one of them, and the cops took all of them away to wherever they store things that were once useful but had become deadly, so 2002 was also the year I carried a lot of trash around in my pockets. When I finally found a barrel for the trash (empty box of smokes, cellophane from empty box of smokes, paper cup that used to have coffee inside, random buttons furry with pocket lint), there would always be at least one person giving me the hairy eyeball as I dumped the ballast, because someone could put a bomb in one of those garbage barrels, and I could be that someone, because 2002 was also the year nobody trusted anybody, and everyone was on a hair trigger, one overloud mousefart away from blind panic.

In 2002, we were bombing the hell out of dirt and civilians in Afghanistan, because "Dead or Alive" was still hot stuff. The Downing Street Memos confirm that Bush's plans for an Iraq invasion hit another gear in April of 2002, because that was the month he cut Tony Blair in on the action, so they were already fixing the facts around the policy at that point, but most Americans had no idea that it was even an idea during the entire summer, because you don't roll out new products in August. But then September arrived, followed by October, and on the 10th of that month, Bush opened the throttle on his domestic terrorism propaganda machine. The proof may be a mushroom cloud, plastic sheeting and duct tape, Iraqi WMD that could be given to Osama and his merry men, there is no doubt about it, lather rinse repeat.

My Iraq book was published that September, and my life became a blur of classrooms and radio interviews and TV interviews and new book ideas from my publisher and papers to grade and everyone was still scared spitless by everything. I realized I had to quit teaching or quit writing, because it wasn't acceptable for the book stuff to steal time from my students, and I wasn't able to write as much as I wanted because I had so much teaching work to deal with. I quit teaching, had another book published in December, and from then on I was On The Road, fully immersed in politics and campaigns, giving speeches while traveling more than 350,000 miles from hoot to holler and back to hoot again...but that's 2003, which is off the point.

I have two memories from 2002 that are clear as crystal, however. The first one is from the deep dead of winter (and I might be cheating, because it could have been February ’03, but who’s counting). I had a full courseload of classes, I was a Dean of a whole class, I had around 20 advisees, and I was in charge of the newspaper…and I also had something like five radio interviews a day about my book. I didn’t feel comfortable doing them from my office phone in the school, because it would have been wildly improper, and I had two officemates who would not have enjoyed me yelling into a telephone while they were grading papers.

So I went out and got some total disaster of a cell phone, and every time I had an interview, I’d trudge out into the bitter cold, plow through the snow, and hide from the wind behind a stand of trees with the phone in one hand and a smoke in the other. For some reason, one moment in particular stands out: a cold hard day, bright blue sky dazzling off the ice, and I’m standing in the snow basically blinded by the sunlight, trying to convince someone I can’t even remember now that it might be a good idea to give Hans Blix and his inspectors more than thirteen hours to do their searches before declaring them failures and rolling the tanks. Yeah, didn’t work.

The second memory, strangely enough, also has to do with Hans Blix and my pathetic cell phone. I’d had the phone for about three days, and was not anywhere near conditioned and practiced in the art of doing-stuff-while-holding-a-phone-in-my-hand. The moment this memory begins, I was driving home from school, my car at the time being a battered Honda Civic stick shift, and I had a smoke in my non-shift hand. And the phone rings. Fortunately, I was at a stoplight, and could manage the phone-answering process without undo chaos.

I said hello, and this very gotta-go voice tells me she’s a producer for either Connie Chung or some MSNBC thing (I’ve jumbled the two in my memory after five years, because I could swear she said Connie Chung, but I could also swear she said MSNBC, and Chung never worked there, so because my memory of it being a Connie Chung producer is stronger, that’s almost certainly what it was…and whoever that producer worked for, she was a serious bulldozer employee of a mainstream TV news show, of that I am mortally sure).

Up to this point, I’d done a whole bunch of radio interviews and a smattering of smaller local network TV things, but on my phone there was the big time, and my body went through this quick convulsion: I was flattered to get called, and happy the book was piercing the Amazing Duh of mainstream news, but I was also disgusted, because even at that point, the TV news people had their pom-poms out for invading Iraq, and I wanted no part of that. The spasm lasted half a second, the light turned green, and I suddenly had to shift through the low gears, maintain control of the steering wheel, avoid burning my ear off with a lit smoke, and try to talk to this producer person like none of that other stuff was happening at all.

Now, a reader will think the important part of the story is what she said to me. That’s cool, because it is, but I have a bias. When she said the thing to me, I dropped my smoke on my crotch, ground a gear in mid-shift, nearly lost the phone, and came fairly close to careening off a bridge, through a bunch of docked crew boats, and into the Charles River. You choose: rescue your genitals, maintain contact between tires and pavement, or keep talking to this producer person after hearing what just came out of her mouth. If you chose “In that order,” you’d be correct. I asked her to hang on, dropped the phone into the next seat, saved my sex life, and pulled the car over to a safe spot so I could finish this godawful conversation without killing myself or any innocent bystanders.

Here’s what she said, in paraphrase: we like your book, great great, wonderful, bla bla, we want you on the show in two days, the topic is going to be Blix and the weapons inspectors, and we want you to be the guy on the show who says Blix is doing a really bad job and Bush should just blow him off. At which point everything went wrong at once, and my mouth was hanging open in an absolute totality of shock. So I pulled the car over and stared at my phone on the seat for a few seconds like it was a singularly disgusting pile of infant feces. Picked it up, and asked her to repeat what she’d just said, because it could have been easily possible that I missed the nub of her statement because I was occupied with cheating death. She said it again, exactly the same way.

Take a moment with that. The number of things in what she said that are so beyond awful and terrifying, it is hard to quantify. 1. She never read my book, because if she had, she’d have quit that job; 2. She was telling me what I was to say, maybe because she dealt with a lot of whores who are fine with that, and will say whatever it takes to get some face time in front of the red light; 3. Blix had been in Iraq for less than a week at this point, and Iraq is a pretty big place for a few dudes to search comprehensively in the amount of time you have on a long weekend.

I said as much. Miss, I said, my book says the stuff isn’t there, but I could be wrong (I wasn’t), so we should let Blix do his thing and maybe avoid an insanely destructive, hopelessly calamitous war over there. Regardless of that, speaking personally, I’m not all that wild about the idea of getting spoon-fed the opinions I’m supposed to have on matters of life, death, national security, and you get the picture. I wrote two books in less than a year, and I’m not bragging, but I’m pretty sure that means I’m qualified to have an opinion of my own.

That was about the gist of what I said into my silly phone, and I was heated because the combination of what she said and the jittery adrenaline aftermath from almost killing myself put my needle in the red faster than Ben Johnson running from the law. I said these things to her in measured tone, but made sure things were clear as could be. And she snorted into the phone, snorted derisively, heaped on a chuckle and a “Jezzzuss” to boot, and then she hung up on me without saying another word. Not even an obnoxious word. Not a grunt, just a click and empty nothingness in the earpiece.

I have four thoughts on this. First, our news industry in 2002 was (and still is today) just a complete bought-and-sold disaster, and a severe threat to our national security, because uninformed voters cast dumb votes, not because they’re dumb people, but because they get their heads filled with nonsense and outright lies by the news people. Second, that spasm I had when I first answered was clearly a contest and a challenge to my integrity, and thankfully “disgusted” won in a walk. To this day, I have never and will never go near any kind of big-time TV news show. I’ve turned them down a bunch of times since ’02. Nah, fellas, you can keep it. Only idiots and dupes spin the wheel on a rigged table.

Third, yes, I have thought from time to time that the best move would have been to go right along, yes, of course, Blix sucks, where do I sign, but then go ballistic when the show starts with information and arguments never seen nor heard by the viewership, or anyone in the network building. But I am not zen enough to think that tactically when some horrid dumb-o-fascist starts pissing in my ear, especially about the war. Also, the show would have been taped, not live, and when it aired, there’d be a potted plant or something in my seat, and it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. It would have been fun, I think, but alas.

And fourth, whenever I think about that whole scene now, I have to wonder how that producer is feeling about herself. Maybe she’s just another craven TV vampire in the long shallow trench, maybe she has absolutely no sense of what she participated in, and honestly, I hope she is exactly like that. I would not want to sit through 2007 and know for sure that, in a small but significant way, I helped make this Iraq thing happen. I do hope she can’t see the blood on her hands, because all I have is pity for someone with a lump of coal for a conscience. If she has enough awareness to recognize her assistance in the slaughter, it would not surprise me at all to hear that she’s a catastrophic alcoholic rotting to death with a face full of gin blossoms and pants full of piss. If I were in her shoes, I’d be Leaving Las Vegas too. Beats looking in the mirror, I’d imagine.

Also, a word of advice. Don’t ever ever ever drive a stick in rush hour traffic while smoking a butt and talking to a Nazi on a cell phone. We’ve all had more practice at it since 2002, but the best course is to quit smoking, buy a headset/earset, and ignore the phone anyway. I have done none of these things, of course, but I’ll get around to it once America goes back to being merely crazy instead of whatever kind of label can fit all this.

Yeah, that was 2002. There was also the Enron thing, which frankly I can’t even talk about anymore. The Priest pedophile scandal erupted in Boston, which was a lot of fun for those of us who live here. A creepy side-note: the worst of the priests, Goeghan, the one who wound up getting stomped to death in prison, was my CCD teacher in Sunday school. He never laid a hand on me, because he never got a chance. I went to the first class and bagged all the others, which in retrospect might be a tiny bit of proof that there is a God, and he’s got my back, but he’s also got a really deranged sense of humor.

2002 was also the year Rove told the Congressional GOP wackjobs to “Run on the war.” And they did, and Saxby Chambliss (R-pudknocker) somehow managed to beat Max Cleland (D-most limbs still in Vietnam jungle) by running ads comparing Cleland to Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein. Never underestimate the awesome power of utter and absolute shamelessness. Cleland lost pretty much his whole body to grenades in Vietnam, and Chambliss had the gall to run that kind of crap on him.

But the ads couldn’t have been all of it, because Cleland was ahead in every poll taken in the solar system, but he lost by more than a slim margin. So it was 2002 when we also started to hear about a company called Diebold, whose touch-screen voting machines were deployed for that Georgia Senate race, and those voting machines were owned by big-time GOP donors, and how citizen votes become private corporate property after they’re in the software, and no paper trail, and easy hacks, and more doom and gloom, doom and gloom, and furthermore doom with a side of gloom.

What else was the absence of awesome in ought two? Palestine and Israel went at it again, and a lot of people died. North Korea cleared its throat and announced to the world that, yes, the single most terrifying maniacal authoritarian psycho dictator on the planet now had nuclear weapons. I’ll brook no argument on that one, by the way. George and Dick are madmen of the purest ray serene, and Vlad Putin looks like he has an alien staring out of his eyes, and some of his neighbors in the former satellites could give purging lessons to Stalin, and Africa has a whole pile of genocidal leaders and strongmen, but seriously.

North Korea is an unutterably horrifying place, with brainwashed slave-citizens parroting the party line and murals of Kim the God Leader on anything that can hold paint, the absolute absence of even the tiniest liberties, no news but state news, no books but state books, no music, no talking, they start brainwashing the children before they can walk, and meanwhile the population is starving to death en masse and eating twigs in the woods, because all the food goes to the army, and the army is controlled by the God Leader, and that’s the guy who suddenly had nukes.

Chaim Potok died. Dudley Moore died. Peggy Lee died. Milton Berle died. Dee Dee Ramone died. Rod Steiger died. Sam Snead died. Dave Thomas died. Steven Jay Gould died. Johnny Unitas died. Robert Urich died. Cyrus Vance died.

Ted freakin’ Williams died, but his head is in some cold-storage vat waiting for the day when cyborgs rule the Earth.

Joe freakin’ Strummer died. A total calamity. My friend Hannah cried for three days. The only good to come out of it was that everyone I know played the Clash non-stop for the next six months, and someone had the decency to yank an abomination of a Jaguar commercial that has “London Calling” as the music. I’d rather have Joe, though.

Senator Paul Wellstone died.

Plane crash. Crappy pilot. Icy wings. Everyone on the plane with him died, too, and it is not too far a stretch to believe that Wellstone’s death helped to guarantee all the deaths in Iraq that began five months after he went into the ground. There was something about him, and he was genuinely the real deal, a radical ass-kicker who threw rocks at the state house for ten years, and then ran for office and took the building. He was a voice that had the ability to gather enough votes to defeat the Iraq War Resolution, and failing that, he’d have made the vote a lot closer, and he would have been a terror for this administration every single breathing day.

Some people still believe it was sabotage, that he was murdered to make sure the war came off smoothly, but I don’t know. I talked about that possibility to several members from the Minnesota chapter of Veterans for Peace in the summer of 2003, they all were pilots, they had all been simply devoted to Wellstone, and they said the sabotage theories were bogus. They’d talked to the people who hired the pilot in question, and had done some other investigation, and as far as they were concerned, it was a bad pilot and frozen water that killed their man. I take their word for it; I have to smoke something green before I get anywhere close to flying, and these guys were stick-and-rudder men back when Adlai Stevenson was yelling at the Soviet ambassador about missiles in Cuba in the UN General Assembly.

Only a fool dismisses these so-called “conspiracy theories” out of hand. Granted, some of the conspiracy people don’t do themselves or their theories any favors. But it was hard to dismiss the idea that Wellstone’s crash was fishy, both in timing and in the event itself. The theory of it – a widely-respected Senator, a good Leftie, and a damned smart man who would have been Hell-and-Jesus to deal with on Iraq and the other fifty million things these madmen have pulled in the last five years, suddenly dead right before the bombs started dropping – is pretty straightforward. But like I said, the Minnesota VFP guys who loved Wellstone, and who still have calluses on their hands from their combat sticks, believed it was just simple wretched tragedy, and that’s pretty close to as good an opinion from as good a source as you’re going to get.

Yeah. 2002 just ruled.

( Yes, I'm "back" for the occasional post or two. Anyone unhappy about that can jump on the Get Fucked Express...I think you can I think you can I think you can I think you can...toot toot. ) :hi:
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:45 PM
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1. Welcome back Will!
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 02:53 PM by LeftCoast
:hi:

Edited to add: Yeah 2002 sucked pretty bad. I'd already been unemployed for about a year by that time. Amazing story about the news producer. It doesn't get much more blatant than that.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:46 PM
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2. Welcome back
:hi:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:47 PM
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3. hell I didn't know I could miss your ole ass
but I did, cool
now to go read what you have to say
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:49 PM
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4. K&R...that's a good essay, Will....nt
Sid
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:52 PM
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5. Dear God.
Have you been writing that this whole time?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:54 PM
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9. Nope.
Just yesterday.

Want me to post the other 50,000 words I've written in the last month?

One at a time, maybe?

It

was

a

dark

and

stormy

night...


49,993 left.

:P
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Fran Kubelik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:56 PM
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11. How fitting, as that was the also the first line of A Wrinkle in Time.
L'Engle passed today. :(

WB, BTW. It's about time.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:18 PM
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27. Oh, no! Not another good one.
:(
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:20 PM
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31. Chuckle ...
:hi:


Peace.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:01 PM
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72. ls that for your entry in the Bulwer-Lytton contest?..nt
:)

Sid
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:54 PM
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84. Welcome back, Will.
I was very sorry you left.

:toast:
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:52 PM
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6. breath of fresh air
welcome back
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:19 AM
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197. "fresh"??? Did you say "fresh"???
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:53 PM
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7. Welcome back William
I missed you . :hi:
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:54 PM
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8. Hey!! you're back!!!!!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:56 PM
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10. Will Pitt!
Great to see you, my Brother.

Nominated.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 02:59 PM
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12. kcik
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:00 PM
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13. In 2002 our column got censored on the air for satirizing
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 03:22 PM by sfexpat2000
the "education president". We were being too mean.

In 2002, I was afraid to hang my peace flag because someone might try to burn down the damn house.

In 2002, my friends still introduced their dissent with "This isn't the popular view, but --"


Good to read you, Will.



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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:07 PM
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20. Seems insane now, doesn't? And what's really ironic...
Is that if you pointed THAT out, that would get you in trouble, too! As if someone was sacrilegious at the altar of 9/11 to recognize and try to point out the lessons of history, sociology and psychology and that they applied to citizens of the United States in the current state as much as to any other human beings.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:17 PM
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26. McCarthyism by other means. We can't ever go back there. n/t
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:10 PM
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105. Yes, and I was being laughed at and called a "nut" and "traitor"
My God, everyone I worked with was absolutely insane. Good, sensible people had fucking lost their minds. They were ready to blow every Arab to Kingdom Come. Frightening. 2002 really, really sucked.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:09 PM
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185. And told to leave the country because we were traitors...
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:01 PM
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14. I knew you couldn't stay away. Was it the Circuit City threads that brought you back?
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:57 PM
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85. Ha....
Very good!
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:01 PM
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15. Peace, Liberty and Freedom
and how about the constitution while we are at it.

I for one am very happy to see you here, kp
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:03 PM
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16. Welcome back Will.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:04 PM
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17. I've been steering everyone to the Go Screw Express
It has wider sleeping berths and an observation car.

:)
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:05 PM
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18. Hey, good to hear from ya !!
:hi:

And as far as not being on DU regularly, don't worry about that. Take sabbatical for as long as you feel you need.

Hell, most of us really need a break after all this shit these past few years.

Personally, I just think you've had a bad case of the syndrome that has affected all of us at DU in varying degrees:
ANGER FATIGUE

It can really do a number on a person.


:hi:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:07 PM
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19. Wow, that's a mouthfull
Thanks and welcome back.

And I agree about cell phone and driving. All of them can take a message, what is about cell phones that we feel we have to answer, immediately?

What is it about our society - not just our employers - that makes all of us on call 24/7?

From where this horrid term - 24/7 - even came?

K&r to get it to the greatest page so that everyone will know that you still love us.. kinda, maybe...

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:09 PM
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21. Ah what a great read
Missed you Will. :hi:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:53 PM
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43. My main memories: 1) Sept. My jaw literally dropping open when I hear Bush talking about
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 03:54 PM by Hissyspit
Iraq on the radio for the first time. "IRAQ???? What the fuck?" Those were my words.

2) Reading Will Pitt and Scott Ritter's book.

3) Going to England for Christmas and talking to my girlfriends father, an officer in the Royal Navy, about Saddam over Christmas dinners. He thought we need to "do something about him" regardless of the truth of the WMD claims. I said I didn't think so. It was cordial. I was staying in their house and eating their food. But for the most part, the Brits were highly suspicious of all the crap. Everywhere I went, I had to make sure I told everyone I thought Bush was a scoundrel and an idiot.

4) Seeing the crap about Scott Ritter on CNN and saying outloud: "They're going after him now."

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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:10 PM
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22. Breath of fresh air.
Thanks. Good read.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:12 PM
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23. Welcome back.
:hi:
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:16 PM
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24. Welcome back
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:16 PM
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25. I try to take you seriously
I enjoy some of your writing. But, I can't get past things like this:
"Yes, I'm 'back' for the occasional post or two. Anyone unhappy about that can jump on the Get Fucked Express"
So unprofessional for someone of your "stature." I guess I have to jump on the train.
I hope you realize you bring on all the criticism yourself. And it's too bad as you have so much potential.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:19 PM
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29. Toot toot.
The fact that you put "stature" in quotes must mean it doesn't really matter how I comport myself.

So I'll just muddle through despite your dim view.

Dining car's in the rear.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:57 PM
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44. It's an Internet discussion board.
You're allowed to have your personality, if you want.

I talk differently here than I do in my classroom and when meeting with colleagues. Well... mostly.

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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:34 PM
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60. Last call for the Get Fucked Express...
Tickets please.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:06 PM
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177. Enjoy your train ride.
Maybe they'll let you blow the horn.
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democrat2thecore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:05 PM
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178. I'm loving it
Eating some fine meals in the dining car and just kicked back reading old Will Pitt essays. :)
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:19 PM
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28. Welcome back.
Only on these internets can one depart in a Huff and return on the Get Fucked Express.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:19 PM
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30. Welcome back!!!
I'm glad to see your byline here again!

:hi:
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:22 PM
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32. Godamighty I'm glad you're back, Will!!
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 03:23 PM by dbaker41
Nice essay!

I was scrolling down the topic list and saw "William Pitt" and just about shat myself! I even thought somebody was trying to punk DU ...

Welcome back, man.

Bake
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:24 PM
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33. Deleted message
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:31 PM
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36. Dining car in the rear.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:25 PM
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34. Welcome back and nicely done.
:thumbsup:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:25 PM
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35. We've come a long ways.
I just got off the phone with someone I barely know. We spent an hour discussing almost the exact same subject as you post. And then I am pleasantly surprised to see you here.

It's like a dark tunnel with no light at the end. Or actually, there is a light, but it stays the same size no matter how far we travel down.

We're in suspended animation. The fascist scheme holding the strings. And people like you and us trying to figure out where they're connected.

It's good to know you are still here. United we stand and build.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:31 PM
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37. first, welcome back, 2nd 2002 is a blur
I started my own biz after the travel downturn after 9/11. I remember being so exhausted after 70 hour weeks getting it off the ground that I came home and just wept.

but I still managed to phonebank for the congressional races that year, terrified of the saber rattling out of the White House.

Seems like just a dream, 2002. I am back on the planet now, feeling somewhat secure in a small city in the middle of nowhere and hoping that the storm winds of war and financial whirlwinds will pass me by with just a breeze in my hair.

I have to hope, it's all I have left. I don't have trust in my government, I don't have much left of the tatters of my civil liberties, my youth is gone.

I work on my vegetable gardening skills on the far side of 50 and have added canning equipment to my Xmas list. I pray my health stays good, as I became a statistic back in 2005 when health insurance became too dear to be in reach.

I'm so glad you are back Will, I've missed your words. :loveya:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:33 PM
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38. As always a pleasure to read genuine astuteness.
I believe that if Paul Wellstone had not died, things may have been different today.

Also this quote is a classic ... "Only idiots and dupes spin the wheel on a rigged table."
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:22 PM
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182. Yes, and I also believe that participating is "enabling" the fiction to continue for these shows.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:55 PM
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190. Indeed!!
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:36 PM
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39. "....jump on the Get Fucked Express......"
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:37 PM
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40. Welcome back Will!
I've been out of town, pretty much for the last couple of weeks, without computer access, so I didn't have to miss your posts all that much.

Yep, 2002. A really, really fucked up year. I remember planning my move from Cleveland to Florida, having last lunches with friends, and every place we ate had Faux Newz on, and all the heightened terror alerts. The more and more research I did, the more I was convinced that the fascists had taken over, and we were going to war for sure.

Welcome back again, and I think the "Get Fucked Express" derailed a while back.
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KatyaR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:43 PM
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41. Welcome back, Will--
We've missed you. (At least I have.) :hug:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 03:52 PM
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42. Time! I think that's a new record for you,Will, a month?
Just when you think you're out, they suck you right back in.

Glad to have you back, but please, stop saying you are leaving, than writing a long semi-rant, than popping back on. It gets old.

Just write your great pieces and let the criticism roll off of you, it's not worth the stress and the dramatics.

Peace always.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:00 PM
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45. Thanks, and...um...
On what planet is this a "rant"?

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/WilliamPitt/312

have thanked this place in each book I've written, and will do so in every one to come. You are all AMAZING BLESSED PATRIOTS, and the nation will rise or fall on the heat of your breath, sort of, but only if that breath is followed up with action and muscle and tactics and precision and patience...etc. You know what the next three words are.

Thank you for everything. EVERYTHING...


I think maybe people heard I left and just assumed the tone of my post on the matter.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:55 PM
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102. Hey, Will...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:06 PM
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46. FYI: The NTSB blamed the pilots and ruled out wing icing....

....

Investigators suggested the flight crew was preoccupied with getting the plane on a proper approach to the airport. Chief investigator Frank Hilldrup says pilot Richard Conroy overshot the approach ten miles away from the runway. Conry first was too far north, then turned and ended up too far south.

"The flight crew should've been able to recover from the overshoot," said Hilldrup.

"We believe the airplane slowed to near the expected stall speed near the end of the radar data, not because of icing, but because the flight crew did not monitor and maintain a minimum airspeed at the end of the approach. This can happen through inattention, distraction, and by not adhering to standard operating procedures, cockpit resource management techniques, and training," said Charlie Pereira, NTSB Aircraft Performance Group chairman.

...


http://news.minnesota.publicradio.org/features/2003/11/18_zdechlikm_ntsbreport/

Just saying....
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:10 PM
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47. the "Get Fucked Express?"

nt

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:25 PM
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55. Three simple words
Not a tough concept.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:51 PM
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68. Sooooo..... You know of a simple way to get fucked?


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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:55 PM
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69. Yup.
Pay attention to people who have nothing better to do than piss in other people's ears.

Easy as pie.

Toot toot.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:13 PM
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76. You're right. I should pay more attention to GD:P.
But I'll have to let R Kelly take up my slack in the ear-pissing department.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:24 AM
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157. Um, that's 4 words..... but welcome back, Will
:evilgrin:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:11 PM
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48. Glad you're back!
:hi:

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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:15 PM
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49. About freakin' time.
Welcome back, Will.

:hug:
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:17 PM
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50. 2003 sucked too.
2004 really sucked.
So did 2005.
2006 sucked as well.
2007 also sucks.
2008 will probably suck.
2009 might not suck so bad.
We can only hope. And vote for democrats.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:07 PM
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74. George W.Bush a two-term pResident.
You know the whole system sucks.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:18 PM
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51. Hey! You're here!
:bounce:

Nice to see you again, Will.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:19 PM
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52. And I had a baby
So in a way, I REALLY lost the year 2002. As I read your post, I started to feel all of what you describe - then add in the sleep deprivation and all that goes with that. I really think 2002 was a very bad year for new mothers - we were infused with forboding while being ecstatic at the same time. It was an interesting paradox in which to experience. I also think that is why it took me so long to "wake up" from the right wing propagandafest.

Thanks for posting, Will, and I am really glad to see you here again. A brief visit periodically is better than none at all! :hi:
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:31 PM
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186. It was a bad year for mothers of teens and pre teens too... I remembered being
eleven years old and hearing the news that my neighbor's husband had been killed in Vietnam at age nineteen, six weeks before he was due to come home...

At that time, the war had been on for four years.

I was nineteen before the war was over.

My son turned ten in 2002. We were bombing Afghanistan with cluster bomb instead of butter (which is what we should have been doing). It was becoming obvious that the Iraq war was going to happen regardless of what WE THE PEOPLE wanted.

My son is now fifteen years old and not only is the Iraq war still devouring our troops and Irquis alike, there is a steady drumbeat trying to force us into another war, this time with Iran.

I felt the fear then, and I still feel it today, that the Bush Administration and the wars it has waged and is planning to wage will try to eat my son.

The last seven years have not been good years for mothers, new or otherwise.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:23 PM
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53.  I have to wonder how 2007 will be remembered
It's getting close to it's end ( lift off the jinx ) .

So often we are told to be patient but when I watch the many reps drag through the day patience is asking alot .

It seems right now mid Sept will be the tipping point , I just hope we are on the safe side of the plank .
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:24 PM
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54. Living in a red state
and having lived close to the railroad tracks therein, I have a special appreciation for the "toot toot" and the train it rides in on...
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:26 PM
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56. Welcome Back!
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 04:49 PM by btmlndfrmr

Whoopi-ty-aye-oh
Rockin' to and fro
Back in the saddle again
Whoopi-ty-aye-yay
I go my way
Back in the saddle again

Yee hah.
:P
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:28 PM
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57. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:00 PM
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71. (snicker) :) n/t
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:29 PM
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58. glad you are back
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:32 PM
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59. hi
:hi:
don't you owe me a beer? maybe it's spidel who does. anyway- :hi:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:34 PM
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61. He's coming to Boston in October
Act like the both of us owe you a beer, and you're off to the races. :)
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:12 PM
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75. ya know, i have never been to boston
i should go. i bet its nice there in october.
i still get annoyed when i think about that election night. i hate that razor thin shit.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:35 PM
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62. Welcome back
:hug:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:41 PM
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63. 2002 - the year of Judith Miller and Michael Gordon
ugh.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:44 PM
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64. I never thought you'd come back. We need a WillPitt gone and back forum.
jj

Welcome back!
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:46 PM
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65. Next time, just leave without a goodbye thread
That way you won't have to add disclaimers at the bottom of your threads.
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brer cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:48 PM
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66. Nice to have you back, Will.
You were missed. K&R

:hi:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:49 PM
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67. There's an EXPRESS for that?
Shit, have I been going about this the wrong way.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:23 PM
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94. Yes, it involves tapping a shoe at the Minneapolis airport from what I gather?
;)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:25 PM
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95. Why go to MN when I can just taunt Will for coming back?
So much more convenient.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:26 PM
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96. True.
:hi:
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 04:55 PM
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70. Welcome Back, Will. nt
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Homer Wells Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:05 PM
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73. WOW!!!!
Just WOW!!!!!

Welcome back, Mistuh Kott-Air.

You have been sorely missed!!

Kicked and Recommended ( a hundred times, were that possible)!!

:toast: :kick:
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Jack Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:30 PM
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77. wb...thanx
:kick:
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:41 PM
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78. Good to hear from you again.....
Kick and Rec.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:41 PM
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79. cheney tried out the new laser gun(seriously) and the thugs took the senate
and the most heinous of creatures norm coleman took Mn. And the American public was treated to a thoroughly distasteful funeral proceeding thanks to the people running the democratic party
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:44 PM
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80. K&R
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:44 PM
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81. Yay!! You're back. Now I'm going to book a vacation day to read your post
;-)
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:48 PM
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82. Thanks for that retrospective. K&R!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:52 PM
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83. Welcome home.
:grouphug:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:58 PM
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86. Welcome back
Great read as always.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:59 PM
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87. Great to see your posts

I know you never really left.

:hi:

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 05:59 PM
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88. Nice essay, but we really want to know what you think about...
...bathroom sex, Circuit City, and Jerry Lewis.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:05 PM
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91. Dumb place to do it, the place still sucks with no reciept-checkers, and he'll be dead soon anyway.
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 06:06 PM by WilliamPitt
:)
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:03 PM
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89. Enthuasiastic K&R here n/t
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mithnanthy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:04 PM
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90. Welcome Home, Will!
Glad to see you're back!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:10 PM
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92. Can I be happy about it...
AND be on the "Get Fucked Express"?

Cause that sounds like fun! :bounce:
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:13 PM
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93. Welcome back Will.
I was thinking recently that even though I don't always agree with you *ehem* you were instrumental in shedding truth on "the" war before it even began. No one made a larger contribution, than you did in that regard.

Great read/recap. You have an amazing memory. ;)

I have a head cold and the immediate family is off to celebrate a birthday. So, if you don't mind, I think I'll have a pint of Guinness and listen to "The Essential Clash" in honor of your return?

:toast:

Regarding Paul Wellstone, I live in Minnesota and my husband and I were working for his campaign as volunteers before he was killed. I have heard through the local grapevine that his family doesn't believe he was murdered, thankfully. But, I don't dismiss it. While Wellstone wasn't the only person to vote against the war, he was passionate, respected and he was - Jewish. I think that made made him more dangerous to the powers that be? If we think about how much money was at stake, and the fact that the "mob" makes "accidents" happen it's not much of a stretch to consider why he might have been a target. Here is one of many "conspiracy theories" on the crash: http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/110102_wellstone.html

On a lighter note, it's nice to see you here again.

Peace
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:26 PM
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127. And Wellstone was running against Normie Coleman who is
Bushco's hand picked boy for the seat. And what a fine little lap weasel Normie has been.

I will always have my doubts about whether or not this was an accident.

I had it from a reliable source that Rove was on the phone to Kiffmeyer's office before it was announced that Wellstone was dead telling her how to handle absentee votes. Not strange that the White House heard about a Senator's death before the public, but strange that enough was known about Minnesota's election laws that Bush's brain could tell the Secretary of State how to deal with it. The same source also believed that the written opinion that came from the SOS's office had been written in Washington.



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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:34 PM
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97. If "several" members of Minnesota VFP
say it was an accident, I suppose that settles it then.

Oh, and here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9vZ_akgmXU&mode=related&search=

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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:57 AM
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176. I suppose the other theory makes better sense
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 11:58 AM by TrogL
(added sarcasm smilies for those too stupid to get it)

:sarcasm:

Paul Wellstone's death would benefit the Repugs.
Paul Wellstone died in a plane crash.
Therefore the only possible conclusion is that the plane crash was not an accident.

:sarcasm:


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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:38 PM
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98. Welcome back Will.
I've missed you.:hug:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:48 PM
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99. Welcome back, Will.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:49 PM
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100. Good to have you back because..."The Greatest Sedition is Silence." nt
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 06:52 PM
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101. Welcome back, Mr. Kotter.
:)
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:01 PM
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103. OOPs - "Error you've already recommended that thread"
great to see you, great essay - I wish I had been around here back then, but I was still blissfully ignorant.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:05 PM
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104. Good to see you, Will
:hi:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:16 PM
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106. YES! Great to see you back, Will....
Missed you and your writings here.

:toast:

:loveya:

DemEx
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coconut_oil Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:34 PM
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107. Welcome back Will
So glad you are back. You were one of the main reason I signed up. Now, back to read your post
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:34 PM
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108. I look forward to seeing your posts again.
And I'll gladly punch the tickets for those who prefer the Express.

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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:37 PM
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109. Welcome back, Will
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 07:39 PM by Rude Horner
I, like many others, missed you. Try to ignore the haters and know that many of us think you're writing is incredible. It's not the same without you here. :hi:

I went to the DU homepage. Gave it the once over. Saw you wrote, and that's the first thing I clicked on. :)
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:41 PM
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110. Welcome back, Will. Next time you leave you must show your receipt.


k/r
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:47 PM
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111. yo, dude, welcome back!
and greetings from the wilds of rural NorCal. Don't you go and leave again, 'cause we will track you down and annoy the shit out of you if you do.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:51 PM
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112. Welcome back, Will
While you were gone, nothing happened that is of any importance whatsoever.

:toast:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:55 PM
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113. Welcome home!
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 07:57 PM
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114. Home
With the family and where you belong
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:04 PM
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115. ... until the next time you leave ...
(it'll be what - the 7th?) ... back on ignore with you. Yawn.

Buh bye.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:27 PM
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119. Toot toot
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:07 PM
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116. WE MISSED YOU!!!
Will! You're back! We sure missed you!

:hi:
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:12 PM
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117. Welcome back dearheart, auntie Abby has missed you :) n/t
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:15 PM
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118. Ahhhh.
That's better. Pour you a beer, sir?



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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:29 PM
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120. No thankya, kind sir.
I'm off to grab my own soon.

Mmmmm...Delirium Nocturnum...llllaaaaaggggglllll...

:)
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:34 PM
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121. My take on 2002
I started off living in Hawaii in a brand new house then my not yet ex decided she had to move back to California and we sold the house there and bought a 45 year old home for more than the brand new house in Hawaii! I miss Aloha Fridays! The sea, the scuba diving, taking my kids to the beach to swim on new years day! Now I'm back in Lala land and hoping that things will get better soon and we can weather the storm on our doorsteps and that the powers that run this country will not try for Armageddon. It was also the year I found this graphic.



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blondie58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:50 PM
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122. what took you so long???
and please don't do this again. You have a lot to say and we have a lot to learn from you.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 08:54 PM
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123. Good. I still owe you a beer at the Brew Moon
(per our correspondence in 2001)
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:07 PM
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124. A little something for the writers, when hubby sent his novel round he mailed...
loose bound working drafts that had been put together by some gf's of his at the college near where he lived at the time...anyway, he hands the women working the window at the P.O. the box with the draft inside. She picks it up and allows it to fall a bit lifting once again saying, "Oooh, it's heavy!" he never thought he'd be able to say this, or have the opportunity but there it was...

"It's supposed to be heavy. It's The Great American Novel."

she smiled and stamped it :hi:
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WTF cubed Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:07 PM
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125. Are you still here? I thought you left?
Well, glad you're here.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:17 PM
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126. So now do you believe that
the '04 Election was stolen in Ohio???? Now that over 50 of the counties ballots have been shredded?

Glad you're back....knew you couldn't stay away. It's addictive.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:48 PM
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128. Welcome back Will Pitt - finding your essay made my day-I missed you n/t
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:55 PM
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129. Yay ...you are back! K and R
It is as though my computer kicked up a bonus.

Thanks!
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:01 PM
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130. Paging JeffR: Can Will get a DUzy for coming back to DU?
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il_lilac Donating Member (756 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:11 PM
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131. Sooo glad you're back!
Not sure I needed those memories, but you made me relive them. Ouch and sigh...
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:34 PM
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132. 'WOW - he's back,' I yelled to no one in particular, after
seeing the name in the right margin & clicking on the title (but certain I have missed you re-debut because I just got my laptop back after 3 weeks.)

The whole house looks up from Moyers & says 'Who?'

'Will Pitt - HA, whadda ya know'. I look up and no one is paying attention to my discovery.

Anyway, I'M glad, you are back.

(My first 'no blood for oil' demonstration was in November, '02. I had been getting increasingly irritated at the pom-pom shaking and the war drum beating - that I decided to shut off the computer and hit the streets after an absence of 25 years.)
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:39 PM
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133. I broke a brief smile when I saw this post
I knew you'd be back :D
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DisgustedTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:40 PM
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134. Next: BIN LADEN INDICTED!
:rofl:

Ash maintains its VERACITY!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:02 AM
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:39 AM
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195. Indeed
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 10:39 AM by Seabiscuit
And Pitt spreads the story all over DU, stands by it despite numerous internal absurdities, attempts to claim partial credit for it, and adds that Bin Laden's good buddy Saddam has come back from the dead to confirm its veracity.

When nothing happens within 24 "business hours", he claims the indictment is "sealed" and when the seal comes off, mark his word, it will have Bin Laden's name on it.

And 200 DU'ers actually believe him!
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:46 PM
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135. Welcome back, Will.
2002 for me was a momentous year. In January, I gave birth to twins. The rest of that year was a blur of feeding babies, diapering babies, rocking/napping babies...you get the idea. And as if that wasn't enough, a few months in, we decided we should sell our house, move to the town where my husband works (since I was no longer working) and when we couldn't find a suitable house, decided to build one!! Our house sold before our new house was done so we ended up having to move into temporary housing which was a hell-hole. It also meant we had to move TWICE. Not to mention the stress and sheer madness of going through the homebuilding process - on top of being brand new parents to twins. Oy. Dumbest thing we ever did. That was one helluva wonderful God-awful year.

I was pretty much oblivious to anything else going on in the world and since I hated Georgie so much already back then, I just did my best to avoid hearing anything at all about the man. I managed to catch the major headlines now and then, but rarely delved any deeper. It was only in the last couple years, as my kids have gotten a little older and less labor-intensive that I started to feel like I needed to check back in to the world and find out what has been going on. That's when I found DU and boy, am I fully awake now!!

Great to see you back again, Will. Stick around, ok? :)
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:00 PM
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136. We are awfully glad that you are back, Will. Thanks for the memoir
of a really tough time. The GOPers are going down; they cheated Al Gore and John Kerry and Max Cleland just to name the top tier and they are going down. That is our job!!!!!! I am really glad you are back to give direction.
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northamericancitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:00 PM
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137. Happy to read your words again.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:23 PM
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138. Damn good read
Nice, Will.

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:25 PM
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139.  I have to tell you that after reading this timeline.........
you brought back to me why I have changed so much. But you really put a big smile on my face when you described Paul Wellstone as a radical asskicker. Thanks for the memories.
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:43 PM
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140. K&R....
God, you're brilliant.

peace~
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:43 PM
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141. That was a great read, Will.


Glad you're back.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:57 PM
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142. K&R
Glad to read you here. :-)
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:10 AM
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143. Welcome Home Dear Friend
William, you were cheering me on as Bill McBride's delegate for Governor heading out to the 2002 Democratic Convention here in Orlando, Florida. Where I finally got to meet Al & Tipper Gore, which was a thrill for me after supporting Al so much on DU.

Meeting other DUers and other 04 candidates' like Johny Kerry, John Edwards and even Joe Lieberman who was gracious to take my hand and thank me for being there. He must of knew he was going to run for president...he was definitely campaigning, handshaking everyone he met...a real politican, once a Democrat now turned Independent, who would of known then.

Whoever wins in 08 must be someone deserving to be our president and care about we the people...
and William, you will be writing about it my friend,
that's a win win for all of us! :applause:

Happy you're back! :hug:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:05 PM
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180. I remember when you posted pics from that
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 02:06 PM by proud patriot
I sure wish Al Gore would run again :hug:

Hey Will good to see ya :patriot:
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Crewleader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:06 PM
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192. Hi Proud Patriot
I'm glad you remembered that and I know how much it means to you for Al Gore to run,and I agree. It would only make sense to do what must be done to help the people and save the planet with his leadership. Al Gore has been there speaking out since the selection. Back at the 2002 Democratic Convention there wasn't one person sitting down when he got done speaking, it was a wonderful comeback since he left D.C....remember that speech...he united the Democratic Party like no other that weekend.

Meeting JCMach1 and his wife was just terrific. He was campaigning also standing with Al and getting his support back.

It was a very fond memory for my family and I and we will always look back at it with inspiration for meeting the President that should of been...and what a great one he would be.

Thanks for your post Proud Patriot and I see JCMach1 in the thread too,WONDERFUL!
Hugs To You Both! :hug:
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:25 AM
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144. as my ma used to say..."the dead arose and appeared to many"
welcome back and a damn fine essay, will pitt
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lligrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:32 AM
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146. Thanks Will, Another Great Essay
Hope you stick around.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:34 AM
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147. Nice to see ya, Will. Glad to have you back.
Really.
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:59 AM
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148. I was really, really, really worried
that you were gone for good.

Great stream-of-consciousness piece!

K & R
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:03 AM
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149. Welcome back here's to memories of 2002
:toast:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:47 AM
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150. Welcome back, Will!
:toast:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:02 AM
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151. I'm glad you posted!
I saw you on the MrsGrumpy thread :( and wanted to say that it was good to "see" you, but that would have taken away from the thread.

Anyhoo, it's good to hear your (online) voice again. Welcome back!
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:07 AM
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152. Rod Steiger died. Cut to the fucking chase, Pitt....
You go out, Fuck Me - Forget Me - all kinds of angst.

And then come back with business like this.

I did not know that Steiger died.

Guess I was too caught up in the death of my Good Friend, Tom Snyder.

You see, I miss Tom more than I miss America.

Because Tom was the real deal.

America is a smokescreen.

Tom
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:23 AM
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153. Pats are going down tomorrow, Will
Jets 27
Pats 21

book it
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:55 AM
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154. Welcome back.
You magnificent bastard.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:22 AM
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156. Good to hear you are feeling better Will. n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:30 AM
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158. Good piece Will
and 2002 sucked for me by the way so thanks for the trip down bad memory lane. Also I'm starting a pool on your next departure/return care to get in on the ground floor with a bet? I kid because I love. Peace.
S
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:37 AM
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159. Damn I'm late to the party
Welcome back ya schmuck. Missed ya round here.

:beer:
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:39 AM
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160. Excellent. Vive La Pitt.
I think we might all be on the Get Fucked Express, with all this carpet-nukin' a'lurkin' on the edge of reality...
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:15 AM
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161. Funny piece
None of it shocks me.

Iraq is about Oil and Empire - nothing more, nothing less - and everyone knows it.
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:51 AM
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162. Out of curiosity, why did you decide to come back?


Did I miss the "I'm back" thread?
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:56 AM
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163. 2002--"the year nobody trusted anybody"...
right exactly, welcome to 1984.

Doesn't surprise me that the media whores saw you as a likely protegee Will...mistook you for another programmable mouthpiece...just think you could be having a few chardonnays with Connie Chung right now....
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:13 AM
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164. glad you are back... ;)
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:09 AM
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165. I knew you would be back
when the time is right. ILLEGITIMI NON CARBORUNDUM, man. :thumbsup:
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:31 AM
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166. It's a joy to see your one of your essays in the top right hand column of the Greatest page.
Oh, I too was bereft at Joe Strummer's death. I still remember where I was when I heard. :cry:

It was the same sucker punch feeling from hearing about Roy Orbison, Stevie Ray Vaughn and, worst of all, John Lennon.

Welcome back, Mr. Pitt.

You are the heart and soul of DU. :hug: MKJ


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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:01 AM
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167. TA DA!!
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 09:11 AM by annabanana
An excellent reentry essay. 2002 was a tough year.

(Welcome back!)
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:07 AM
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168. LOL- Welcome back, Will.
You're a breath of fresh air.

;-) :hi:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:12 AM
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169. Good to see you back.
The place isn't the same without you.

:toast:
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:20 AM
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170. Glad you're back and nicely done
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Blue Fire Donating Member (588 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:17 AM
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171. Splendid essay, Will.
I look forward to getting to know you better. While I found the events of '02 disturbing, I've only become more active in progressive causes within the past couple of years or so. And if by chance you get to the Detroit Lakes area, I've always got a cold beer in the fridge to share!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:23 AM
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172. You rock, Will.
Nice to see you. :toast:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:25 AM
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173. I thought this guy quit DU
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 11:28 AM by Gman
He was supposed to be tombstoned at his request.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:26 AM
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198. Here I thought it was 1962, but it's really 1968.
Seems just like yesterday that he said "You won't have William Pitt to kick around any more."

Yet here he is again running his own personal popularity contest and beating some turd named H. Humphrey by a landslide with his secret plan to end the war.

Will we have to wait out another 6 years for him to be impeached?

Deja vu all over again.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:45 AM
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175. Welcome Back
I am more of a reader than poster and I have missed reading your essays.

2002 brought me feelings of impending doom and the feelings are still there.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:17 PM
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179. Hey! Who let Will Pitt back in?
Just kid'n. Welcome back Mr. Pitt.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:25 PM
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181. Great essay
I'm glad your essays are back on DU. I enjoy reading them.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:48 PM
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183. Welcome back Will
:toast:
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:49 PM
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184. Welcome back my brother
I've missed you. We've all got a lot of work ahead.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:45 PM
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187. WELCOME BACK WP!!!
:hi:
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:54 PM
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188. U Da Man
So good to see you back, Will.

I think you are just in time for some real fun.
Just this odd hunch I have.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:04 PM
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189. Screen shot of a year from hell
Glad to see you back on campus. Kept looking and looking. One day, I thought, fuck it, Pitt had a point about this place. Even then, I closed a post in a thread full of armchair patriots that I missed Pitt.

Pitt can come back to keep swatting. It gives one hope. Some of us realists need hope now and then.



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Deb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:17 PM
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191. Like it was yesterday
Thank God for DU and the people who posted here. You never really did stop teaching, welcome home.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 09:02 AM
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193. Very nice to see that you're posting again. Very nice.
I think it's a good thing. And it's a good thing that you've decided not to give a shit what anyone who disagrees with you says. In fact, I am one who didn't agree with your second to last thread about sticking with the dems, although I didn't say much.

Anyway, like the old saying goes, opinions are like a**holes. Everybody has one.

Again, nice to see you're back.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 09:55 AM
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194. It's good to see you, Will. I am more scarce than usual as I now have a "career", heaven help me.
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mogster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:56 AM
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196. Don't know about the Get Fucked express, but I'll kick your
thread ;-)
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 04:02 PM
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199. Welcome back ...
you always remind me of how little progress the Democrats have made in the last 60 years.
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:37 PM
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200. Great first big post back, Will
2002 sucked for me personally, too. It was the year my best friend of 14 years decided for some still unknown reason that he just couldn't be friends with me anymore. It was a miserable year all around for me and I still miss him, although I have gotten over the terrible hurt I felt for months and months.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:40 PM
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201. I had the pleasure of meeting you in 2002
We attended the first anti-war rally in D.C., before the war even began. The day before the rally is the day Wellstone died. Fellow DU'ers, a few Bartcoppers and Mike & Kathy Malloy gathered that night and it was the first I learned of his death. Needless to say, the bottle of wine was no help and the muddy field we stood in the next day was a bitch. But I relish having met you Will Pitt and I'm glad to see you back. :hi:
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BostonMa Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:57 AM
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202. .
:thumbsup:
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