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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:36 AM
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Scandal and suicide on St. Pete City Council
As police investigate allegations of sexual abuse, St. Petersburg City Council Chairman John Bryan kills himself.



ST. PETERSBURG - City Council Chairman John Bryan walked into City Hall just after 1 p.m. Friday and handed in his resignation letter.

Less than five hours later, he was slumped over in a golf cart in the garage of his Floral City house, dead from carbon monoxide poisoning. He was 56.

Bryan's suicide came after news spread Friday that authorities were investigating allegations that he had sexually abused three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15. Ron Stuart, a spokesman for the Pinellas-Pasco Circuit Court, said the third alleged victim was a nanny for Bryan years ago and no longer lives in the area.

<snip, and here's the SHOCKER>

A staunch Republican and former finance chairman for U.S. Sen. Connie Mack, Bryan helped push Baker's agenda through the City Council.

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/09/08/Southpinellas/Scandal_and_suicide_o.shtml

http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingnews/2007/09/st-petersburg-1.html

http://baynews9.com/content/36/2007/9/7/286031.html?title=St.+Petersburg+councilman+John+Bryan+commits+suicide

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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:38 AM
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1. Well, unlike Larry Craig, he really can't change his mind, can he? n/t
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:55 AM
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3. Birds of a feather Foley and Bryan


I wonder if John Bryan had any conection to Mark Foley. They both like kids and associated with childrens organizations.

Bryan was active in the local foster care system. He was co-chairman of the Stakeholder's Group, a local board that provides direction to the foster care system. He also served on a Pinellas-Pasco board of the Sarasota YMCA, which oversees foster care services in the two counties.
SOURCE: http://www.sptimes.com/2007/09/08/Southpinellas/Scandal_and_suicide_o.shtml
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:08 AM
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5. I looked
but I couldn't find anything linking them to a particular organization or initiative.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:54 AM
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8. He sure had links with Governor Charlie n/t
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:21 AM
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9. This is ridiculous, that a perv like that serves on the board of
the privatized agency that oversees foster care.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:49 AM
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2. Jesus H Christ
what is wrong with these people - its a friggin epidemic - I mean really how many of these sex scandal stories have there been in the past year - its getting to be friggin absurd It seems like there is one of these stories every week or so - This is at least the third one in FL beginning with Foley - Bob Allen and now this guy - shaking my head in amazement.....
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:23 AM
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10. You are forgetting the Homeland Security guy. The one that
was hitting on "kids" on the net and bragging about his position in government.
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:40 AM
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14. Frank Figueroa ICE agent (Frank the Fig)

Homeland Security for Sex Criminals: ICE/Customs Knew of Agent Fig's Arrest, Promoted Him

By Debbie Schlussel

Federal officials knew all along about a top law enforcement official's arrest on a sex crime against the underaged and, yet, promoted him every step of the way--even to the leadership of a federal law enforcement agency's child sex crime enforcement program. Worse, Homeland Security officials may have LIED about it to a U.S. Senator investigating the episode.

It's the story that keeps on giving: the bizarre story of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Agent 007, Frank Figueroa a/k/a "Frankie the Fig."
We recently raised the question about how ICE Princess Julie L. Myers, Assistant Homeland Security Secretary who oversees enforcement of our nation's immigration laws, could continue to employ Fig, the ICE agent who exposed and fondled himself to a teenage girl in a shopping mall.
SOURCE: googled info
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:45 AM
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15. Brian Doyle. Hardly a peep since then, too. Wotta surprise.
not.
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:52 PM
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29. sentenced 5 YEARS plus 10 years probation Life time registration as a Sex Offender
Former Homeland Security press aide sentenced to prison
By Michael Hampton
Posted: November 19, 2006 3:03 pm
Brian Doyle, 56, former deputy press secretary for the Department of Homeland Security, was sentenced to five years in prison Friday after pleading no contest to charges that he sent sexually explicit messages over the Internet to Florida sheriff’s deputies.
Doyle will also have to serve 10 years of probation and register as a sex offender for the rest of his life.
On April 4, Doyle was arrested on charges of child solicitation and transmitting harmful materials to a minor. The minor, however, did not actually exist.

“I am profoundly sorry for everything. How I feel inside can’t be described,” Doyle told Circuit Judge J. Dale Durrance. . . .
Prosecutors said Doyle, of Silver Spring, Md., wrote graphic descriptions of sexual acts in online chats with a 14-year-old named “Ashlynne,” who was actually a character created by sheriff’s detectives. — Associated Press

As I have said before, this sort of sting operation skirts very close to the line between catching real criminals and entrapment, and in my opinion, crosses the line. Doyle has done nothing here except engage in a fantasy, something many people do. Under Florida law, however, this thought crime will get you thrown in prison. Florida doesn’t require there to be an actual victim in such cases.

Never share your fantasies with anyone via instant messages. You never know when the person on the other end will be a cop with no real criminals to go after who’s looking to take down a “child predator.” Next it’ll be S&M practitioners. Then gay people. Then anybody who fantasizes about anything other than the missionary position.

Certainly, people should not be having sex with children. People also shouldn’t be having sex with police, either…

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SOURCE: http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/11/19/former-homeland-security-press-aide-sentenced-to-prison/
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:07 AM
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17. So many perverts
so little time - who the hell can keep up with this - if I had only known I would have kept a list - lol - I'm sure somebody has -

You know I actually think it is VERY sad for the repunk party. You know back in the day - even if I disagreed with them politically - there did seem some sense of integrity sincerity and you could respect that - now they are just bat crap crazy perverts.....

My ex-brother in law holds office as a repunk in central NY and I am forever telling my niece, his daughter, that he needs to get in there and take his party back from ALL THE FREAKS!!! You should have heard the rant I did on her when she told me her father had his picture taken with Dick Cheney last year - it was not pretty and I really should leave the poor woman alone - its not her fault her father is one of them - good news is there has never been any indication that he is a pervert - lol.

Oh and there was a family wedding right after the invasion - and I had a "little too much" to drink and was SCREAMING at him over politics - he had the decency to kind of ignore me and not fight back
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Venus Dog Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:57 AM
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4. Unfriggin believable!
What the hell is going on? Why are so many of these people pedophiles and pervs? These are strange daze
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:42 AM
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6. Power and Politics - Addiction to Sex and Power?
This article is about the fact that, unfortunately, many of our country's leaders are motivated by their addictions to power, approval, sex, and control.

Many of the leaders in our society are operating as wounded children, run by their addictions to approval, sex, power and control. Few truly healthy individuals want to put themselves through what a politician has to go through to run for office - the verbal abuse both given and received, the huge amounts of money spent, the integrity sacrificed through the concessions, lies and manipulations offered in order to win. Our system of electing our officials is so corrupt that there is little possibility of attracting a person with a strong, personally responsible, integrious loving Adult. Few people of integrity are willing to put themselves through what they have to go through to win. This is not to say that none of our elected representatives are honest and caring. There certainly are many, but they are, unfortunately, a minority.


Do you agree that we knowingly participate in the political process that repeatedly create these soulless creatures?
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:28 AM
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12. Don't agree. They're not all alike.
Speaking as a former small-time elected official, I take offense.

In my experience, people who run for public office are motivated by the same needs/desires/goals that compel people to become volunteer firemen; to serve their communities.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:57 AM
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16. Agree, they're not all alike.
This is not to say that none of our elected representatives are honest and caring. There certainly are many, but they are, unfortunately, a minority.


Without having a need to create some statistical model, how do you suppose that Americans are in a position of spending $100 million per hour in Iraq while thousands in the U.S. are homeless, hungry, or dying without healthcare if there was a majority of well intentioned leaders?

If we could rotate that Iraqi $100 million per hour spigot into neighborhoods with the greatest needs around this country, I suspect that the manufactured poverty would disappear.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:21 PM
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21. The plumbing has been rerouted to serve those who have the resources to pay the plumber.
Money is the core problem in our democracy, not an inherent amorality on the part of those who would choose public service.

Republicans have been bought by feeding their own financial self interest. Democrats have been bought on the basis that they need to compete for funding with the self-serving republicans.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:14 PM
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23. Again, no argument here ...
Where I am attempting to get to is something on the order of a Myers-Briggs Type Indicator at the individual level. You know, like: ISTJ - Introverted, Sensing, Thinking, Judging or ENFP - Extraverted, iNtuitive, Feeling, Perceiving.

I strongly suspect that there were probably a lot of Jimmy Stewart-like "Mr./Ms. Smiths" going to Washington, state capitals, city governments, etc. who got involved in politics. The give and take inside of political environments are unlike any type of interpersonal relationship that one could imagine and this is where our "Mr./Ms. Smiths" lose their proverbial souls.

At what point do you stop the horse trading and retain your integrity? This is when I think the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator at the individual level becomes important. I am not committed to this, but, lets just say that if the candidate is not ENFP, their chances for success in the poltical swamp is slim.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:32 PM
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25. You say there's no argument then you say the exact opposite of what I am saying.
A meyers-briggs-type test that would simultaneously test for narcicissm, amorality and power hunger as proxies for desire for public office is exactly the opposite of my belief.

I believe that people become public servants either because they are public spirited (who predominately become Democrats) or because they want to promote their own personal financial wellbeing and believe that their win justifies their inherent superiority (who predominately become Republicans). At the lower levels of public service, the former are the rule. At the higher levels, the latter.

Also, the latter start off amoral because they are in it for themselves, while the former become amoral over time because they cannot compete with the latter without surrendering the public spiritedness which compelled them to public office in the first place.

A personality test which gauges a person's predisposition for public office based upon current terrible (yet well earned) stereotypes of elected officials is the worst kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, and is exactly why we have people like George Bush (electable) in office instead of people like Dennis Kucinich.

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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:24 PM
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26. OK, I will try again
I believe that people become public servants either because they are public spirited (who predominately become Democrats) … At the lower levels of public service, the former are the rule.

These are my "Mr./Ms. Smiths"


while the former become amoral over time because they cannot compete with the latter without surrendering the public spiritedness which compelled them to public office in the first place

This is my statement that I believe concurs with the above statement.

The give and take inside of political environments are unlike any type of interpersonal relationship that one could imagine and this is where our "Mr./Ms. Smiths" lose their proverbial souls.


Hopefully, I did not create the impression that a meyers-briggs-type test is an absolute measurement for politicans. Others are trying, for instance, there is a politican apptitude test by Richard Warren Field.


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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:14 PM
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30. The test exactly illustrates my point
The test assumes that public service aptitude is directly proportional to douchebaggery quotient.

In a word, bullshit. I know that I left my town in better shape than I found it, and I won't be party to a cynical world view that discourages ethical public spirited citizens from doing likewise.

I've seen naive and I've seen cynical. Naive is better.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 06:52 AM
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33. douchebaggery quotient?
You are right. You have some point that you want to make and it has nothing to do with my original post.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:46 AM
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7. The grand old perverts are continuing to
outdo themselves. Any news on the murder/suicide of the other three Rethugs?
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:27 AM
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11. which three repukes are you wondering about
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:59 PM
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22. LOL
The Florida threesome -Tom Feeney's friends
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 09:47 PM
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34. Malaise: found some info on the THREE in question
But further to your topic thread. Apparently, more than Feeney is involved. The tie-in is like a spider web.

SOURCE: http://www.americablog.com/2007/09/another-gop-gay-scandal-brews-in-murder.html

Another GOP gay scandal brews in murder-suicide case?

by Pam Spaulding · 9/09/2007 05:28:00 PM ET

There is a bizarre story swarming blogtopia, laced with unconfirmed (and confirmed) sources that could lead to another Republican Sexual Hypocrite "outing" and scandal. First, some facts about the weird murder suicide in Orlando in late August that kicked off the whole matter:
A Republican political consultant killed in an apparent double murder-suicide in Florida had worked extensively in Alabama politics including a controversial "Adam and Steve" campaign leaflet that parodied gay marriage.

Ralph Gonzalez, 39, president of The Strategum Group, was found dead Thursday along with his roommate, David Abrami, 36, and a friend, Robert Drake, 30, according to The Associated Press. A motive has not been determined. Weapons and signs of a struggle were found in the house.

... The Alabama Republican Legislative Committee in 2005 paid Strategum $3,144.06 to print a flier that accused a Democratic candidate for the House of Representatives of supporting gay marriage.

The flier depicted two smiling men on a porch holding hands with the caption: "Let Gloria Dolbare know God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!"
The Orlando Sheriff's deputies have not released a timeline or official motive -- the bodies that were discovered had been dead for several days. Some articles at the time mentioned a gay love triangle, which caught the eye of several blogs. As Andy at Towleroad noted, Florida Today originally ran the story with the "Lovers' ...

Full story at the URL


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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:33 AM
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13. I made a smart ass remark yesterday during the resignation announcement
that he's either a tapper or into kiddie porn/sex. Don't remember the news goons mentioning his party affiliation though. Didn't need to I guess.

Good gawd.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:21 AM
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18. I just love the part about the golf cart.
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 11:23 AM by TomInTib
What a mental image.

There's one for the kids.

on edit: recommending on that alone. What a thoroughly republican way to check out.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:39 AM
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19. I saw this on WaPo and just KNEW he was a rethuglican
I was right.
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wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:53 AM
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20. Those poor kids
I will keep them in my prayers.

I wonder how old they were when adopted, it sounds like they may have been foster kids first. Which means this is not the first abuse they have suffered.
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bandy Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:22 PM
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24. Can't get this thought out of my mind
but does anyone else suspect prescription drugs for male enhancement might have something to do with all this, this sudden explosion of offenders all of a sudden?
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Maq Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:37 PM
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27. I am male and I do not know
anyone by the name of Alice.

The seeAlice commercials are quite graphic but not many wimmin are called Alice. shame

I like your thought process (1 and 1 equals 3). Maybe we should put some FDA labels on them pills seeAlice and the farmpill vi-AGRA.
Warn them Republicans GOP DANGER GOP DANGER......


To enhance your topic, I have read that the biggest users of these erectile function pills are teenagers. Further, it is GIRLS who are stealing them pills from the Uncle, Dad or other male neighbors for their boy friends,.

And the pills are crushed up and line snorted for a quicker reaction. Hear tell, the girls are snorting to. I don't know how it affects females. I am only third partying the info. I read it somewhere, more than likely on the NET. Pill parties where a bowl is filled with donations from young participants.

Prscription Drug abuse is the fastest growing teenage drug problem. Them pills can be ordered from the web. stolen, borrowed from a half senile elder etc etc. SAD

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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 05:05 AM
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31. Now there's one I never thought of. But why would a drug only
affect Republicans?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:43 PM
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28. Good
That saved tax payer dollars that would have been used for trying and incarcerating him.

I hope the victims receive adequate help.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 05:21 AM
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32. RWing FAMILY VALUES
RWing FAMILY VALUES

*Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for attempted rape of a juvenile.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

* Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a juvenile.

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

THIS IS THE SHORT LIST!
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