Democratic Retreat In Iraq?

[babylonsister]

:mad: :mad:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18331.htm

Democratic Retreat In Iraq?

From NBC's Ken Strickland and Mike Viqueira

09/07/07 "NBC" -- - It's clear now that Democratic leaders on both sides of the Capitol are moving towards dropping their insistence on a end date deadline for completing troop withdrawal from Iraq.

Senate leaders are likely to move a defense measure on the week of the 17th that essentially calls for a withdrawal to begin later this year, but drops language that would require completion by April 30, 2008. "We are not backing off anything," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid told reporters today, while adding in the next breath that "we need 60 votes" -- a threshold that they have been repeatedly unable to meet this year on war votes. "There is nothing off the table on Iraq," he said.

Meanwhile, Speaker Pelosi is signaling that she, too, will allow votes on a similar measure in the House by the end of the month, as well as a measure that would require the Bush Administration to come forward with a redeployment plan within 60 days, according to a House leadership source.

It wasn't supposed to work out this way. Throughout the spring Democrats had talked of how they were hammering away at Republican resistance on deadline legislation, speaking of the "arc" that votes had progressively taken towards the Democratic position. September was to be a watershed moment for congressional action on the war, with the expectation that Republicans were going to start bucking the White House. The strategy was to change Republican votes, not to change the underlying legislation.

[spanone]

1. What is the website for the Independent Underground?

[ludwigb]

2. I Hear You

The last 9 months have been something of a confirmation of everything Noam Chomsky and Ralph Nader have been telling us for 12 years about the Democratic party. I don't believe they were completely right, but I no longer believe they were completely wrong either.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

3. If the vote on the FISA Amendment didn't warn us, this is the blow between the eyes

with a 4x4.

Collaborators.

[Myrina]

4. G*dammit!

:nuke:

What is it going to take to get them to DO THE JOB WE SENT THEM THERE TO DO??

F*cking Bush enablers!! :mad:

[daninthemoon]

7. I'm afraid the money greasing the wheels may still trump "we the

people" Still, let's see if this plays out as horribly as we fear.

[bigtree]

5. This report has no facts, just speculation which cites NOTHING from Pelosi

NOTHING from Reid which says he's going to allow those votes.

Why can't we wait and see what they come up with before going ballistic. Isn't this the type of media manipulation we all complain about here? Why should we let NBC's Ken Strickland and Mike Viqueira lead us around by the nose?

Who the fuck are they to tell us what course our leadership will decide to take?

[babylonsister]

6. I agree, bigtree. And I hope your optimism is warranted. We shall

soon see.

[theoldman]

8. If plan A does not work then you have to go to plan B. If plan B

does not work then you have to go to plan C. Lets hope that plan B works. Obviously plan A did not work because it did not have a majority support in Congress and probably not among the American voters. Our job is to keep the pressure on Congress until they come up with a plan that works.