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Sat Sep-08-07 09:53 AM
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Has Real Time With Bill Maher Jumped The Shark? |
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I've watched all 3 episodes of the new season and all 3 have pretty much sucked with last nights guests pretty much taking the prize as suckiest-Mos Def and Cornell West...that rapper dude is obviously crazy-not because I don't agree with a lot of what he said just because he IS crazy..
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:00 AM
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1. I don't know I kinda like this |
eleny
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:02 AM
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2. I enjoyed last night's show |
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I think Mos Def was pulling Bill's leg from time to time. It seemed to me that the show got away from Bill. Mos Def and the Professor could take their show on the road.
After last week's show that left me cold, last night's was pretty entertaining. Nader didn't even bother me. I think I needed the comic relief after a tense week.
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:06 AM
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3. I liked the shows thus far |
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:11 AM
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4. No problem with last night's guests. I did have a problem with Bill continuing the myth that Shrub |
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meant well be his invasion of Iraq.
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:13 AM
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8. That's Ridiculous...I Hadn't Heard That Part Yet... |
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Bush is such an egotistical fool that who knows why he originally invaded, but it wasn't for any good reason...
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:55 AM
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13. It was in Maher's New Rules. The text isn't up at HBO yet but here is the video |
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:11 AM
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5. I Really Liked Last Night's Show...At Least The First 35 Minutes... |
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I haven't had time to watch the rest yet. Mos Def was so right about 911. If you read The New Pearl Harbor, you will see what he is talking about. There are so many unanswered questions that he is right to question the whole accepted narrative. Cornell West is extremely articulate and wonderfully enlightening.
The Criminal Bush Administration's 1984-like use of the bin Laden tape to push for perpetual war through perpetual fear is what's jumped the shark, not Real Time...
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:12 AM
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6. I think his guest list has shrunk somewhat. |
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He used to have a more diverse group, when it was Politically Incorrect
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:15 AM
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9. Rahm Emanuel Was Supposed To Be There... |
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:13 AM
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7. You are correct he seems to have lost the "zap" |
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he used to have...did HBO tell him to tone it down.
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:15 AM
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10. The bit w/Mos Def on the "boogeyman" Bin Laden tapes was comedic gold! |
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Paraphrasing Mos Def, he doesn't fall for the "boogeyman" tapes, because if someone wants to kill you they just do it, they don't send tapes telling you about it:
Mos Def mocking Bin Laden: "When I see you, I'm gonna fuck you up!"
and: "Yo bitch, it's me..."
I laughed so hard at that I had a choking fit. I replayed just that part 3 times, it was hysterical.
He was pretty funny about all the stuff he didn't believe in either (some was tongue in cheek), like the moon landing. He said to check out his MySpace page, he had a whole list of stuff he didn't believe in, but he believed in BigFoot. ;-)
And yes, other times you couldn't understand what he was saying. He did, however, have a pretty good historical context and was impressively on top of current issues. More than I can say for some other guests (Kevin Costner, anyone? Rainn Wilson?)
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Sat Sep-08-07 11:33 AM
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15. I think his funniest thought was.... |
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How the Bushes and Clintons are passing the presidency back and forth like a party joint - Bush Clinton Bush Clinton.
I hollered out loud at that characterization.
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:32 AM
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11. I haven't seen the show, but I can't imagine Cornell West ever |
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not being good. I revere the man.
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:33 AM
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12. No, it was funny. Thank god he didn't have a right-wing shrieker on. nt |
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Sat Sep-08-07 10:58 AM
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would have smacked the smirk off the face of any of them..it was fear Val
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Sat Sep-08-07 11:38 AM
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17. Oh valerief! Can you imagine West & Mos Def with a wingnut? |
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I almost wish Bill had one on.
And maybe it's a good thing that Rahm Emanuel couldn't make it. They would have shut him down.
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Sat Sep-08-07 11:48 AM
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18. Maybe that's why he didn't show. It's not like Congress really cares about their votes. nt |
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Sat Sep-08-07 07:16 PM
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32. Uh-huh, he had to know it would be a rocking night! nt |
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Sat Sep-08-07 11:37 AM
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16. Last night's show was horrible |
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I really think Mosdef was drunk or high - he was unintelligle at times.
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Sat Sep-08-07 03:17 PM
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I was wondering the same thing.
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Sat Sep-08-07 11:50 AM
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19. I thought the show was great. |
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And, I agreed more with Mos Def than I care to admit (almost eveything except for O.J. being innocent - no way - he's got a personality like my mom's - totally self-centered to the point of consciencelessness - & the Moon - I'm not sure if we landed on the Moon).
"There are people that want to attack ..." "Yeah, and some are called 'the police.'" I loved that one (and I'm a white, middle-aged ol' lady - retired social worker, that is).
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Sat Sep-08-07 12:05 PM
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20. Bill Maher needed this lesson |
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Sat Sep-08-07 12:08 PM
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21. Last night's show was pretty fucking awful. |
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Mos Def was unintelligible for most of the show.
I've never found Cornell West to be that insightful. He uses a lot of $0.50 words to convey very basic thoughts most of the time.
Bill seemed disinterested until he got the chance to go after Islam and interview Nader.
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Sat Sep-08-07 01:39 PM
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23. Cornel West reminds me of |
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Professor Irwin Correy if anyone's old enough to remember him.
He had a wonderful ability of speaking where he would be saying a complicated sentence where you're waiting for the point of the sentence, and then he would end the sentence and there wouldn't be a point, but the sentence was ended correctly. He was a rare talent.
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Sat Sep-08-07 12:08 PM
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22. Oh, and Mos Def is FAR more informed about the world than he lets on .. |
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Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 12:09 PM by Maat
he supplied details about the Louisiana Purchase (INTERNATIONAL details) than 99% of the population would NOT be able to do.
He's very adept at communicating in his stage persona; he's VERY informed, however.
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Sat Sep-08-07 01:44 PM
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24. Mos Def's a fucking genius |
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I thought he and Cornell West were awesome last night.
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Sat Sep-08-07 03:21 PM
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26. I've enjoyed every episode of this season, so far |
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It's always a treat when there is no loudmouth idiot republican trying to shout everyone down with stupid talking points, like last night.
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Sat Sep-08-07 03:54 PM
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It was SO nice not having a Rethuglican spouting propaganda.
It would be one thing if they had a legitimate point-of-view, and I was learning something from the argument; but, they don't. Listening to a Bushbot is just a waste of time.
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Sat Sep-08-07 03:27 PM
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27. Last night's show was amazing . . . . . |
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I could listen to Cornel West talk to days. Personally, my favorite Bill Maher episodes are those -- like last night -- where Bill is the most conservative member of the panel.
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Sat Sep-08-07 03:52 PM
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30. I agree with you wholeheartedly (n/t)! |
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Sat Sep-08-07 03:29 PM
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28. Imagine if Emanuel were there? |
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I think he might have felt a bit out of place? But at least he would have added to the religious diversity (Def is Muslim, West Christian, Bill athiest)
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Sat Sep-08-07 03:34 PM
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29. I could not understand |
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85% of what Mos Def said. I thought he was either high or drunk. The few things I did get, I thought were very funny. Overall, the show left me frustrated.
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Sun Sep-09-07 09:51 AM
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33. I thought it was GREAT! |
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