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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:19 AM
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Petraeus "confirmed" to media in 2003 that they had found mobile bio-weapons labs in Iraq. He lied.
13 May 2003
U.S. Troops Find Second Biological Weapons Trailer Near Mosul

(Defense Department Report) (520)
Washington -- Troops from the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division - -
stationed in northern Iraq and headquartered in Mosul -- have found
what military authorities believe may be a second mobile biological
weapons laboratory, says the division commander.

"The suspected mobile biological agent production lab found on 9 May
in our area was found by one of our infantry units during operations
at the al-Kindi Rocket and Missile Research and Development Center,"
Major General David Petraeus said May 13 during a briefing from Mosul.
"Our own chemical section looked at the trailer and confirmed it as a
trailer that was very close to identical to the first trailer that was
found by Special Forces southeast of here last week."

Petraeus said he spoke with experts May 13, and they have a
"reasonable degree of certainty that this is in fact a mobile
biological agent production trailer."



Of course those biological weapons labs Petraeus claims to have found were not biological weapons labs at all, and it appears that he probably knew that was the case before he went to the media to announce the "find".

On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. and Kurdish troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have found the weapons of mass destruction."

The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.

A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now -- had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.

snip

Spokesmen for the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency declined to comment on the specific findings of the technical report because it remains classified. A spokesman for the DIA asserted that the team's findings were neither ignored nor suppressed, but were incorporated in the work of the Iraqi Survey Group, which led the official search for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. The survey group's final report in September 2004 -- 15 months after the technical report was written -- said the trailers were "impractical" for biological weapons production and were "almost certainly intended" for manufacturing hydrogen for weather balloons.


Link

And so now the man who told us that a weather balloon station was actually a biological weapons lab is supposed to be our "credible source" that is going to tell us whether or not the "surge" is working.

For the media to present this guy as having even an ounce of credibility is shameful. Petraeus is a liar. Period. There is no reason for people to be anticipating his report, because we already know what his report is going to say. There is a reason Bush choose Petraeus for this job, and if you think Bush chose Petraeus for his objectivity then you don't know who Bush is. Petraeus was chosen for this job because he is more than willing to lie to the public and present the case Bush wants him to present.

We can not fall for the lies that are going to be fed to us over the next week, it is our duty to call Petraeus on his bullshit and I expect our Democrats to question him very vigorously when he testifies. If Petraeus is not forced to explain why he told the media that biological weapons labs were found in Iraq then our Congress is not doing it's job. The man is a liar, and they can not allow a liar to be taken seriously.

The occupation of Iraq needs to end, and people like Petraeus and Bush need to be sent to the Hague for their war crimes trials. They sure as hell should not be treated as credible sources, and it is time we call the media on their bullshit.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:30 AM
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1. Yes perhaps, but at least we know where Mr. Bin Laden was
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 11:33 AM by 4MoronicYears
hiding in Iraq, We know where he is, He's in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat.

I lie. I just remembered where Rummy said the WMDs were located. On another note, they are listening to background noises on the Osama tape to determine his exact location.

A: Someone passes gas and we know that beans are available where he is.

B: Someone sighs so we know there is breathable air where he is.

C: A 50 cycle hum is heard on the tape so we know he could be somewhere in Europe.

D: Horse whinnies so we know they may have hay nearby.

E: A poster for Coors Light is seen in the background so we know he could be in a college dorm.

Really, it doesn't matter where he is or isn't (Witness our halfhearted attempt to procure him in the mountains) what matters is that some (make that millions) agree with his sentiments and we have given him all the support possible by allowing GWB to go on an adventure in Iraq.

ON EDIT: I will not believe a single thing Betrayus comes up with. He is not an impartial third party.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:43 PM
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2. K&R #3 for ON to big #5!!1 n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:45 PM
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3. And on Monday he will lie again
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:46 PM
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4. I didn't know this. Great catch. K&R
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:51 PM
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5. KEEP KICKING
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:52 PM
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6. OF COURSE HE LIED. IT'S WHAT HE DOES AS A LOYAL BUSHIE.
Jesus Christ, after all the honest officers have been purged from the military, what the fuck do you think is left among New Hitler's Generals?

:puke:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:18 PM
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8. LIE???? LIES? but but THATS WHAT THEY DO...Thats ALL they do...
Bastids
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:41 PM
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14. Hey, opi, I hope you are well, sir!
:hi:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:09 PM
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26. I am well, thanks....hope the same for you
Life is much better these past few months...what with all them Pub Trials and Tribulations/Exposures.....

We are laughing all the way to TUVA on this one...LOL
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:14 PM
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7. K&R Promote the liars! :( n/t
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:21 PM
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9. Thanks for posting this, I was not aware his kowtowing to the bush
cabal went that far back until I read your OP. Good find!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:22 PM
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10. i'm just amazed that the liberal media didn't seize upon this immediately
:sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo: :sarcasm: :woohoo:
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:24 PM
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11. Well there we have it, the Resident lied
"Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement."

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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:31 PM
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12. Wonder what Petraeus was promised in return for his lies?
I guess we wont know for sure until after 2008, but it has to be worth millions.

He sacrificed his decorated military career to please a drunk chimp.
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 06:38 AM
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33. High paying seats on Corporate Boards
That's the ususal payoff.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:33 PM
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13. Actually, I see nothing amiss with Petraeus in this at all (bush lied though)
13 May 2003

"The suspected mobile biological agent production lab found on 9 May
in our area was found by one of our infantry units during operations
at the al-Kindi Rocket and Missile Research and Development Center,"
Major General David Petraeus said May 13 during a briefing from Mosul.

Then:
A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now -- had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003

It was suspected when it was found (May 9th), 5 days after being found it made the press, 18 days after it was found the Pentagon-sponsored made a decision that it was not what they suspected.

Petraeus said it was suspected, not that it was one.

I still don't trust him :)

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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:04 PM
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15. Why go make a big announcement to the media before you even investigate the claims?
The reports make it clear that these "labs" were not suitable for biological weapons production. I have a hard time believing that Petraeus made this big announcement to the media without taking the time to do even basic fact checking first. Unless of course he did not care about the facts and was merely trying to make people believe that the war was justified.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:58 PM
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17. You can't fault Patreaus? What about this statement: "Petraeus said he spoke with experts May 13,
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 03:03 PM by leveymg
and they have a "reasonable degree of certainty that this is in fact a mobile
biological agent production trailer."


So, the General is smart enough to hedge a statement to cover his ass if later the deception is found out. He would make a good politician, which is exactly what he is..
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:17 PM
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19. He confused it with a weather station??
You think the top military brass doesn't know what a weather station is?

Why didn't they secure any of the WMD locations Rumsfeld said he *knew* existed. How could they say they *knew* there was a grave and growing threat if they didn't even have plans to secure ONE site.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 02:52 PM
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16. kick
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:11 PM
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18. I have a "reasonable degree of certainty" that Betrayus will
report what his CIC wants him to report. In the PR War, the Busholini Regime usually wins because they have the US Corp media's help in "catapulting the propaganda". I am sure that this little phrase was not conjured up by Busholini. It was a rare truth from this little dictator.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:39 PM
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22. He's a bad reader who can't see the difference between stage direction
and his lines.

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:29 PM
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20. Just lie after lie -- don't worry about it; be happy - - - - - - -
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:38 PM
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21. fuck that!
The Democrats praise Patraeus!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/08/AR2007080802065.html?tid=informbox

These are not Bush-backing GOP die-hards, but Democratic Sens. Dick Durbin, Bob Casey and Jack Reed. Even Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate Armed Services committee, said progress was being made by soldiers.

The suggestions by them and other Democrats in recent days that at least a portion of Bush's strategy in Iraq is working is somewhat surprising, considering the bitter exchanges on Capitol Hill between the Democratic majority and Republicans and Bush. Democrats have long said Bush's policies have been nothing more than a complete failure.

The Democrats' choice to acknowledge the military's progress in Iraq signals support for the troops, a message that voters want to hear. But they still heap criticism on Bush and his Iraq strategy, which promises to be a prominent issue in next year's presidential election.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:43 PM
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23. You lied to me, Mr. Lundegaard. You're a bald-faced liar....
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 03:55 PM
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24. The Dems have found a way now to keep the US Occupation
going.That is what they wanted all along. They voiced the opposite just to garner votes for '06. Dems will still pretend to be in favor of US Draw Down from Iraq to garner a majority in the Senate & the Pres. for '09 all the while keeping the US Occupation active. There is no way that Repugs or Dems are going to allow Iraq's oil to be controlled by "Terrorists" or anyone else. The US Govt. will control that oil flow & the US Occupation shall continue for decades in one form or another. Americans are being gamed by both Repugs & Dems.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:49 PM
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27. All about the oil...
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/090907dnbushuntoil.1b6b135.html

The oilmen are apparently going to force the issue of the oil law themselves. You have to wonder if the terms of the contract with Hunt Oil reflects the oil law that the Bush Boys have wanted the Iraqi Parliament to pass. I suspect you will see more and more of these contracts soon.

We no longer live in a democracy. We live in an oligarchy. Really an oilgarchy. And the Democrats for some reason don't seem to have a problem with that.

All about the oil that Iraq produces. And apparently where the Democrats are concerned, all about the money the oil produces.

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LuckyLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:44 PM
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25. In front of congress he'll be Colin Powell in a uniform. Of course he'll lie. Count on it.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:40 PM
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28. Time has come for the Dem's to pull the purse strings on Iraq war...
this is the only sensible alternative, Bush plans to handle this fiasco he's gotten the US. in by merely handing it off to the next administration. Too many US. lives to sacrfice, too much money to spend!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:03 AM
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29. That guy is a sack of steaming shit. Any imbecile could have immediately
seen that those things had nothing to do with bioweapons. Fucking moron bastard.
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:07 AM
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30. WTF!
I didn't know this either! :banghead:
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:23 AM
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31. All bush did is find himself a new loyalist in Petreaus, to back him up
n/t
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 05:58 AM
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32. K & R
:kick:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 06:54 AM
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34. he serves bush inc, not America
he's just another bush whore
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 07:07 AM
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35. Please submit to your local newspapers and media outlets - and to Olbermann
and others.

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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 07:22 AM
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36. Fealty to the Boy King is the only reason he's in charge. n/t
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 07:57 AM
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37. Will Petraeus lie to us again?
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:02 AM
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38. Still Kicking - do not be fooled. The fix is in.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:24 AM
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39. Oh, kick indeed. Do not for one second buy the BULLSH*T of Gen. Betrayus.
He's a Bushco whore. And Biden and Reed and Levin and ANY other Dem who calls him an "honorable" man is complicit in the charade.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:26 AM
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40. So our future is supposed to be hinged on a report from a known liar and shill?
Kick.
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KalicoKitty Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:39 AM
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41. Agree-he is a liar!
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:12 AM
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42. Betaryus is the one left after bush* sacked all the REAL generals...
Don't ever forget that "small" point.

Every single general who has fought this goddamned ILLEGAL war of CHOICE based on LIES has said it was FAILING and a CIVIL WAR.

bush* sacked them all.

Betrayus is the only one left who would go along with the LIES...

bush* and the REPUKES play POLITICS with the "war" and have SACKED all the generals who told the TRUTH and who were in a position to actually KNOW what was going on...
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:14 AM
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43. and tomorrow he will lie again.
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:17 AM
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44. He should be tried, along with Bush a la Nuremburg
and hanged as well. Typically, I am against capital punishment, except for Nazis or Bush/cronies (redundant, I know, I know).

Time for the Dems to stand up to this international terrorist. Perhaps he can confess his crimes and those who've encouraged the committing of same. All we need are Dems with strong character who are not in the pocket of the military/industrial complex... just trying to think of some, it's harder than you think.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:19 AM
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45. He should be interrogated about this at the hearing for 3 hours
Why did you LIE, General???
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Donkeykick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:17 PM
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46. He is just a puppet....
to the puppet master.;-)
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:44 PM
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47. blasphemy!
Petraeus is infallible!
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:48 PM
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48. kick
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Kuni Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 10:28 PM
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49. WMD experts were questioned about revising their conclusions regarding the Lab’s
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12275328/page/3
. . . The technical team's preliminary report was transmitted in the early hours of May 27, just before its members began boarding planes to return home. Within 24 hours, the CIA published its white paper, "Iraqi Mobile Biological Warfare Agent Production Plants," on its Web site.

After team members returned to Washington, they began work on a final report. At several points, members were questioned about revising their conclusions, according to sources knowledgeable about the conversations. The questioners generally wanted to know the same thing: Could the report's conclusions be softened, to leave open a possibility that the trailers might have been intended for weapons?

In the end, the final report -- 19 pages plus a 103-page appendix -- remained unequivocal in declaring the trailers unsuitable for weapons production.

"It was very assertive," said one weapons expert familiar with the report's contents.

Then, their mission completed, the team members returned to their jobs and watched as their work appeared to vanish.

"I went home and fully expected that our findings would be publicly stated," one member recalled. "It never happened. And I just had to live with it."
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 04:58 PM
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50. Generals Lie, Soldiers Die!

www.betrayusreport.com
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 08:08 AM
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51. For all who think Petraeus is Honorable... Kick!!!! eom
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