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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:31 PM
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How long would you like to live?





Can Humans Live to 1,000?
POSTED BY
Dr. Mercola
August 17 2007




The search for a “cure for aging,” or the proverbial fountain of youth, is alive and kicking throughout the world. Still, the camps are divided over whether virtual immortality in humans is possible -- and if it is, if it’s a good thing.

According to Cambridge University geneticist Aubrey de Grey:


“The first person to live to be 1,000 years old is certainly alive today …whether they realize it or not, barring accidents and suicide, most people now 40 years or younger can expect to live for centuries.”


Among the many advances in science and technology that point to an incredibly long life for humans, possibly in the near future, are experiments that have extended the lifespan of fruit flies and other organisms, including mammals.

Anti-aging researchers are increasingly optimistic that aging can be slowed down dramatically, or even prevented altogether.

Even the federal government has devoted funds, to the tune of $2.4 billion a year, to study the “biology of aging.”

“ … In the near future, say the next two to four decades, the disease of aging will be cured,” said Robert Freitas at the Institute for Molecular Manufacturing, a non-profit, nanotech group in Palo Alto, California.

Would Immortality be a Wise Decision?

To some, the question of immortality isn’t one of, “Can it be done?” but rather, “Should it be done?” Opponents of the anti-aging movement point to potential problems with overpopulation, limited resources, global warming and more, if humans begin to live “unnaturally” long lives.

Moreover, some say that living indefinitely would undermine the very definition of being “human,” and raises some serious ethical, moral, and ecological questions.

“There is no known social good coming from the conquest of death,” said bioethicist Daniel Callahan of the Hastings Center in Garrison, New York.

Experimental Gerontology June 30, 2007


The Daily Galaxy August 13, 2007

This is a particularly good topic for me now as this week I am the keynote speaker at a Bioenergetic Medicine conference that is focusing on anti-aging. I have reviewed the literature and found the study in a recent Gerontology journal that I linked above. I personally believe that the current human genetic system is designed to allow us to live to be about 120 years old. I have never seen any credible evidence of anyone living to be older than this.

But does that mean that human lifespan will always be as we now know it?

I don't believe so.

I think there are incredible, radical innovations going on in technology today that will literally (highly likely in the next 20 years or so, and maybe sooner) enable us to effectively extend our lifespan by another 50 years.

Living to be 1,000 years old, as this article suggests, is an entirely different animal than adding on several decades to your life. Is it possible? Perhaps. Though I’d be surprised if it happens as soon as some of those researchers are speculating. It would also call for an extreme shift in the way we view our planet and resources, and may trigger an urgency to exploring space as a viable place to live.

How to Live to be 100

I would suspect that many of you would be happy to live to be 100 -- or 120 -- even if the idea of living to 1,000 seems unnatural. And I do believe that this is an entirely reasonable goal for most everyone.

The major key to avoiding premature aging is to keep your insulin levels down by avoiding grains and sugars in your diet. That's because any meal or snack high in the carbohydrates (found in grains and sugars) generates a rapid rise in your blood glucose. To adjust for this rise, your pancreas secretes the hormone insulin into your bloodstream, which lowers the glucose. There is just no question in my mind, nor should there be in yours, that normalizing insulin and leptin levels is crucial if you expect to reach your maximum lifespan.

There appears to be an age related insulin resistance that is due to an insulin receptor or post receptor defect that is clearly related to exercise and diet choices.

Unfortunately, your body is not designed to accommodate unnaturally high levels of insulin and leptin spiked by grains and sugars.

Not only does this excess insulin store calories from the carbs in the form of fat (which is why so many are overweight and obese these days), but the excess insulin also suppresses essential hormones and your immune system -- all of which are absolutely essential for avoiding premature aging.

Quite simply, consuming sugar and grains is the equivalent of slamming your foot down on the aging accelerator!

You may have also heard of studies that show lowering your caloric intake can slow aging and extend lifespan. I suspect the majority of the benefits from calorie restriction are related to its influence on insulin, as reducing calories also reduces insulin. There is bulk of new evidence that supports this. So you don't have to torture yourself to live longer. Most people would never do it anyway as they would wisely realize this was a foolish endeavor, but there are quite a few extremists who have chosen to eat far less to live longer.

They have made a foolish choice because it is not lowering your calories that causes you to live longer, it is optimizing your insulin and leptin levels. Calorie restriction will do this, but it does it at an enormous price, both psychologically and physiologically. Removing the joy from eating is a major issue and when you don't eat enough you will miss certain key micronutriients.

It's Never Too Late

Remember that your body was designed to stay healthy -- and it’s never too late to start taking control of your health!

It saddens me to see people in their 50s, 60s, and beyond who think they are “too old” to make changes for the better.

This is completely false!

If you're ...

Eating the right foods,especially eating right for your nutritional type
Taking care of the emotional traumas that we all invariably go through
Removing yourself from toxic influences
Exercising... your body will go toward health. HOWEVER, please recognize that eating right for your nutritional type is probably more important than exercising to decrease your aging rate. Also please be sure to review the other article in this issue that reviews the dangers of OVER exercising, which will lower your lifespan.
What About Resveratrol and Red Wine?

Resveratrol, a chemical found in red wine, has made headlines for slowing down the aging process in mice.

It is one of the most exciting antioxidants out there, in my opinion.

It appears that resveratrol does have the power to extend life, just as the less-desirable method of calorie restriction does.

However, I don’t buy into the hype that drinking red wine is the best way to obtain it, as the alcohol in the wine is a neurotoxin that is definitely not good for your health. If you want to boost your consumption of resveratrol, focus on products that contain WHOLE grape skins and seeds, and skip the red wine entirely.




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MY PERSONAL VIEW IS THAT WITH ALL THE TOXINS IN EVERYDAY LIFE EVEN IF YOU ARE VERY CLEAN ABOUT YOUR ORGANIC MEALS< ETC>, it would be hard to accomplish life in our present world past 120. 150 would be the tops. If we were to suddenly go with an extremely green planet, then the deck would be stacked differently.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:34 PM
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1. Who the hell would wanna live through 1,000 years of THIS?
No, thanks. I don't even want to see 100!

TC
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:34 PM
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2. I'd like to live as long as I don't want to die. However, I'm not in charge. - n/t
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:35 PM
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3. How long? Forever.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:36 PM
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4. At least up until I die
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:38 PM
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5. I just want to find out what'll happen in the future.
That's the thing about dying that really bothers me. How long will America be a democracy? How will the world use energy? Will there be a cure for cancer or mental illness? Will we have flying cars like in the Jetsons? I'm jealous of future generations because I won't be here to find out.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:39 PM
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6. Long enough to properly indoctrinate a grandchild
Don't have one yet..... so shooting for another 20 "good" years.

Beyond that - really don't want to be here without other friends and family and with the effects of global warming.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:42 PM
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7.  not interested
I have been here 58 years and already seen enough crap to last me a lifetime . If people want to hang around to be 150 well then good luck to ya . You can face the full effects of global warming and maybe even see the end of the iraq occupation .
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:42 PM
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8. I would rather not live during a global, fresh water shortage.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:43 PM
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9. Forever.
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:46 PM
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10. Impossible.
First of all, aging is not a disease. It's the natural progression of life. Everything dies. The universe itself will one day die.

Now, one reason that it's impossible to expect immortality is that there are simply not enough resources on the planet to sustain a long living population. It can barely sustain it now.

Second reason, which I alluded to above, the planet itself is not ever lasting. It will die too and nothing will survive it.

When you think about it (and it is depressing) the human race, actually every single species is doomed to extinction. It's going to happen and we can't stop it. Just enjoy the time you have now.
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AnotherGreenWorld Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:46 PM
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11. Thanks to doctors I will likely die within a year.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:23 PM
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17. ...
:hug:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:42 PM
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21. Oh my god. Please tell me you are joking.
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 05:43 PM by tom_paine
If you wish to elaborate further on your situation, please PM me, as you probably wouldn't want to discuss it in a public forum.

:hug:
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AnotherGreenWorld Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:44 PM
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22. Sadly, I'm not.
Unrelatedly, I've always liked your posts tom_paine, especially the style.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:13 PM
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30. I am so sorry.
:cry:


And many people on here wonder why a lot of us have a problem with mandatory medical checkups.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:37 PM
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34. I wish I could trade places with you but don't give up
if you want to live. There are other resources out there than just the medical establishment if you look for them. Do be careful though of charlatans. I'm sending you healing energy right now and hope other DUers will do the same. It can't hurt can it. :-)
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:48 PM
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12. If it is possible, then humans will destroy themselves
The planet can barely sustain us right now. I can only imagine how much longer we'd last if we all stopped aging.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:01 PM
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27. that is not necessarily so and here's why
i don't think it is very highly likely that human lifespan can be maintained by just keeping the same old body going for 1,000 years, look at the difficulty we have maintaining a car for 20 years -- and it's made of metal and has easily changeable parts

if we can live to be 1,000 or more, it will be because there is a way for us to live in cyberspace after our fourscore and ten is done in the human body

the cybercitizens if they can be created by somehow uploading our brains, memories, experiences...they would allow for billions of people to live for however long the data bases could be maintained, w. very little environmental impact compacted to bodies that eat, drink, and shit real time

not saying this is possible but IF it is possible...

all things become possible, some of us as cybercitizens will travel to the stars, maybe even other galaxies, we could even be part of great space ships ourselves

and when the ship wears out, perhaps place our virtual brains in another vehicle and so to continue the adventure...

is there any reason this wouldn't be a wonderful boon?
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:05 PM
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13. I want to live as long as I am able to take care of myself and am
aware of what's going on....no life support stuff.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:06 PM
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14. Forever.
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:21 PM
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15. 88
That's how many keys there are on a piano.
Seems about right to me...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:23 PM
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16. Quite honestly I'm ready to go now and I'm sixty seven.
Everything that I could do I have done so there is no reason for me to hang around anymore growing older and more feeble each year.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:02 PM
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28. But you never know what's just around the corner!
I wish you weren't "ready to go". New things don't stop happening to a person just because they're a certain age. I'm 55 and still surprised at how many things I haven't done yet.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:34 PM
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33. I do know what's around the corner, another day without my
dear husband. I'm ready to join him. Sorry if anyone finds this shocking but anyone who has lost their soulmate after a lifetime together will understand how I feel.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:13 AM
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35. I'm not in your place....
But I can't imagine life without my husband, even though I'm ready to wring his neck sometimes. Do you have children? I don't and I think that I'd be pretty lonely, even though I'm very close to my siblings.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:57 PM
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36. I don't have anybody anymore except a step daughter and
son-in-law, who God bless them look after me. So it is a pretty lonely place. I have a friend whose husband died within months of mine and she's already dating and looking for love. I wish I could be like her but no one could replace my husband in my heart and I'm just not interested.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:21 PM
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38.  I understand how you feel
If I lost my wife of 27 years I know I would have no interest ina new relationship , there are people that can't be replaced that have become soul mates . I would die if I lost my wife , we are part of eachother .
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:30 PM
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18. The thought of dying doesn't bother me so much per se .....



it's the thought of dying painfully and expensively that sort of bother me.





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Ino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:31 PM
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19. I want to live long enough to celebrate DimSon's death. (n/t)
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:40 PM
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20. In a Free Country, sure I'd like to live to 200 (if I could stay relatively healthy & active)
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 05:43 PM by tom_paine
But in Imperial Amerika? What the fuck is there to live to see?

Emperor ThomBush? The camps? The moment when the Freepers realize that Loyal Bushies now control 98% of all law enforcement, and thus they may hurt, maim, or kill Liberals at will, knowing they would never be prosecuted by their fellow Loyal Bushies (see KKK in the early 20th Century for an idea of how easily this could be done, after the last Americans who remember freedom die off)?

How about Peak Oil and ice-free Arctic summers? How greast would THAT be to live to see.

How about waiting to see our Free Press finish morphing into what monstous, cacophonous carnical of totalitarian lies and istraction. Yeah, I'd love to see what CNN is gonna look like in 2050. :puke:

It is a good time to be old, just for those reasons I am envious of the old.

Of course, there's no reason anyone living in Nazi Germany before 1938 or Amerika 2007 can;t put all of this aisde and have good things in their personal life...for awhile longer.

But really, there is nothing left to see. Except the Final Solution to the Liberal Problem (probably a little different than the last time the previous set of Bushies did the Final Solution Thing).

Boy, do I want to live to see that!

:sarcasm: :puke:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:48 PM
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23. Forever...
and be immortal like a vampire. :evilgrin:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:49 PM
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24. I want to live a long, long time.
I like living. I took a longevity test yesterday that said my life expectancy is 96, but I might make it to 101 if I clean up my act. :rofl: Sounds good to me.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:54 PM
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25. i'd like to live forever if i had a strong mind in a strong healthy body
many dreams we have that are impossible now become possible w. a reasonable human lifespan

travel to the stars becomes possible, even over the lightyears, if people live for hundreds or (better) thousands of years! imagine that, our ancient dream

40 years, nature's way, was not reasonable

80 years, i look at my dad, he's just getting started at putting some of what he's learned and putting it to work outside his region, he has even consulted in australia and south america, what could he do with even 80 more such years, much less a thousand

for easily bored people, okay, i guess they have a problem, but no reason for them to use the technology to extend lifespan if they don't want to

i would also want the option to have suicide assistance comfortably and easily available to all who no longer had functioning brains or whose bodies had deteriorated to such a point that life was no longer anything but misery

longer, healthy life is a blessing, yes, such a technology would require some legal changes, such as VERY strict limits on how many children you could have and be allowed to use the technology, but good lord, think of what you could do if you actually had time!

even the poorest, for whom "a dream delayed is a dream denied" suddenly get time back and get another chance to show what they can do -- society can easily cheat a person of her chance if she only has 50 years to struggle, get money, get educated, and climb the ladder -- it can't so easily cheat her when she has 500 years to devote to her success
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warren pease Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:01 PM
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26. Long enough to see the Giants win a world series...
... which may well be wishing to live forever, the way things have been going the past few decades.

That and Busholini and Cheney rotting in Abu Ghraib after their war crimes trials at The Hague for signing off on things like this: http://www.antiwar.com/news/?articleid=8560



wp
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:06 PM
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29. It's not how long. It's how worthwhile.
:shrug:
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:18 PM
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31. Not long enough to forget who the fuck I am,
where I am, who that person standing next to me is, and what the hell happened two goddamn seconds ago. Seriously, the thought of winding up like that sounds worse than death.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:22 PM
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32. Forever and a day.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:13 PM
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37. Forever.
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