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DianeG5385 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:47 PM
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The Bin Laden Tape is definitely FAKE
It's clear from the tape it's meant to set up GOP talking points to link AlQaeda to the dems in the public's mind leading up to 2008. This is probably the first of many RNC Psyops under the aegis of the current administration. Someone with credibility needs to call this out for the fake it is.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:50 PM
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1. Everybody needs to call it out as a fake
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1762758&mesg_id=1762758

Letters to the editor, talk radio, and call your congress critters too.

bin Laden talks about dems in congress .... please.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:32 PM
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9. And the subprime mortgage situation!
Next I expected he'd tell us which teams to watch based on this year's NFL preseason, or mention the Miss South Carolina clip.

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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:57 PM
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10. I read part where he talked about the neo cons
Richard Pearle & Donald Rumsfeld ....

and Norm Chomsky too :rofl:

if you hit my link I have another link @ my post where you can
read O.B.L.'s text.



the old U.S.S.R. had propaganda that wasn't this phony ...

They made a film of Stalin flying into help liberate Berlin @
the end of WW II in German.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 07:52 PM
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2. Just look at it! It's fuzzy and his face structure just isn't the ol'
Osama we have grown to know! Even the background is fuzzy and he is in the exact same robes and set before the same background as other older pictures of him on the net. It LOOKS FAKE! and then the talking points! Nah...not him.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:00 PM
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3. k/r
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:01 PM
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4. Of course it's a fake
Most, if not all of them have been fakes.
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:02 PM
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5. it's a still picture most of the time
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:08 PM
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12. Ten seconds in I was sure it wasn't the same guy.
This is the first time I've heard the live audio with the picture. Different guy.

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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:11 PM
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6. Of couse it is fake, Bin Laden is worm food but it might be The Qaeda
is behind it not the RNC.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:12 PM
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7. Fake, fake, fake...dildo fake to be exact.
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 08:12 PM by libnnc
I've got a purple plastic penis in my underwear drawer that is more real than that tape is.

Linking the Dems to Bin Laden is the plan. Hell they did everything but talk about gay marriage in that tape for fuck's sake.

The tape is FAKE

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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:22 PM
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8. Is this the full transcript in the link?
http://english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=7403


I know the media has been saying its just rambling and that it points out negative things about the Democrats and I have noticed every post on DU has pointed out the same thing. But I also know that the media has an influence on what we all believe. If this is the full transcript, where are the talking points that make the Democrats look bad? When I read it I don't see it at all, I cant see why any Republican would want something like this put out or why any politician that quietly lets the war continue for greed. I am the only person that really believes that the words are from OBL's camp and not made up. I'm a looney I guess?


Here are some links on OBL from the past that the video mentions :

http://www.marktaw.com/blog/TheOsamabinLadeninterview.html
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 08:59 PM
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11. this help?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296065,00.html

link to the pdf file of the transcript ...

"People of America: The world is following your news in regards to
the invasion of Iraq, the people have come to know that after several years
of the tragedies that the vast majority of you want it stopped thus you
elected the Democratic Party for this purpose, but the Democrats haven't made
a move worth mentioning on the contrary they seem to agree to continue to
the spending of tens of billions to continue the war and killing there, which has
led to the vast majority of you being afflicted with with disappointment."
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:28 PM
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18. Yeah, Im a jack ass!
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 09:36 PM by superkia
Got my head out of my ass now, I'm better. I was looking at an old video he made in 94 but it does resemble the same things he was saying then...Wake up the sheeple of America, you live in a dictatorship! I think it looks of OBL's camp though, I cant see a politician pointing out the horrible truths about our government, doesn't make sense? Maybe a pissed off American wrote it or made it.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:18 PM
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13. Here are the reactions on the BBC website:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:22 PM
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16. "A little like Borat, but not as funny."
:rofl:
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:41 PM
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20. Yes, I liked that one.
:-)

I love reading the comments on the BBC website.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:20 PM
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14. Every time I see it
and if there's someone around me, I say and engage them in conversation about the fact this is not OBL.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:20 PM
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15. It's utter bullshit
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:25 PM
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17. I don't think that makes it a fake
It's clear UBL wants at least in some way, what Bush wants. Just like the 2004 video helped Bush.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:34 PM
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19. "the first of many RNC Psyops"
"the first"???!!! Hahahahahah!!!
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:59 PM
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21. Just because he's reading GOP talking points doesn't mean it's fake.
George & Osama have always had the same speech writers.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:59 PM
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22. The clincher was when Bush used it to prove his points about staying in Iraq.
Although even his pathology couldn't quite wrap itself around this mediocre prop.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:55 PM
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23. Voice morphing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_oet&address=358x3185

Some techies and native speakers of Arabic ought to look into this.
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ironflange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:28 PM
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24. Here's what gives it away
He picks the Rams to win the Super Bowl.


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murloc Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:39 PM
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25. Or he's a ventroloquist with a sore neck
pretty pathetic attempt. His head always reverts back to the same exact angle that it stays at 90% of the time.
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murloc Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 11:41 PM
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26. Video provides strong suggestion that he is dead
Otherwise they wouldnt be using old stiff neck Osama

Probably not the reaction they wanted.
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Raejeanowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 11:20 AM
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27. Explain This To Me Like I'm Six
Okay, not really. This is what I'm hearing:

This was written by a bad GOP hack to parody Demspeak, so that Dem concepts could be firmly associated with terrorism and Al-Queda, to the betterment of whatever remains in Bush's agenda.



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