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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:41 PM
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How republicans screw up "neutral" forums.
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 12:43 PM by WileEcoyote
Ever posted on a "neutral" forum? Then you know that it is difficult to state your point of view without getting heat from the moderators and administration. There is a reason for this.

Remember to understand the GOP rank & file is to know that they are a bunch of little cowards who must simply flock together in herds. All done in order to feel secure.

You and me? We can argue and disagree on half or more of our beliefs. We do not need to have mutual support or group hugs. Nice if it happens but we do not CRAVE the security of the group.

Neo cons and most die hard republicans would die without their daily fix of fellowship in Liberal bashing.

So what does this mean? It means the republicans run in herds and thus bring a whole lot of traffic and MARKET SHARE to a web page. This has a corrupting influence on politically neutral web-site: They want traffic.

Well a lot of GOP'ers have grown amazingly quiet lately. They post less on "neutral" forums because their party has unraveled their ambitions to hell and back. Never-the-less the remain powerful in neutral forums. The administrators do not want to lose their business.

Want proof? Just go to most any political forum not especially identified with any party. OK now post "the list" of GOPedophiles (http://www.armchairsubversive.org/). Those slimy bastards who've been sent up on sexual predator crimes, or committed suicide after being accused or convicted.

Guess what will happen? Your post will be pulled and all subsequent threads you start will be subjected to intense scrutiny.

Republicans simply can not handle the truth.

Now wouldn't you think that the party of "Family values" would want to clean house and removed these cretins from among their ranks? yeah well guess again. Corruption is the main ingredient within the GOP. They must sweep everything under the rug.

So it should be no surprise to find that these die hards will bully, intimidate "neutral" forum moderators to excluse serious debate from Democrats.

Sure they'll let you talk about the budget, taxes etc. However any discussion of true, real corruption and stupidity within the ranks of the GOP leadership generally will not be tolerated.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:51 PM
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1. I've been tempted a couple of times to wander
back to the about.com Civil Liberties forum. It was truly a neutral site. I just got tired of debating the raging idiots there.

The moderators (I was there through two different ones) would NEVER stoop to cutting a post and I'm not even sure there's any way to be banned.
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:44 PM
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7. Now that is a good idea
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 03:44 PM by WileEcoyote
I say every neutral forum should be a fur flying, pie in the eye, free for all.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:58 PM
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2. I've run up against them in the neutral forums. Annoying all their calibrated
talking points including "germany's economy is bad because they are liberals" (Germany's economy is bad because of massive immigration from eastern europe and the middle east, and, because of East Germany integration) or "the nazis were socialits and fascism is a lefty thing"...and on and on. I cannot stand it why I like the DU.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:00 PM
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3. I was on a technical discussion board once
About 8-bit microprocessor applications. Yeah, pretty geeky stuff.

But after a while, the RWnuts started invading the board, posting totally irrelevant political stuff, insulting the regulars, trolling and picking fights.

Finally, a group of regulars just banded together and started a new site with moderators and banning, but even that one didn't attract many posts and it just died.

The previous board is still overrun with useless junk.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:06 PM
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4. Don't to to the Frey at Slate...you'll find out..
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:11 PM
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5. people will eventually ignore sites that behave that way.
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:42 PM
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6. Oddly at least one of them gets a lot of hits
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 03:45 PM
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8. Sort of like they've created a "balanced" approach to the news?
where every situation has to address the opposite opinion/idea no matter how crackpot and unfounded that idea may be?
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 04:28 PM
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9. I more and more convinced they are dispatched.......
.....to spread their propaganda at any message board that has a "soap box" or "anything else in the world" forum. I post at a particular hockey forum, and you've got two people who constantly drop a GOP load in the punchbowl by saying things like "Obama is a radical Islamic" or "Kerry insulted our troops", then play the "What, ME??" bit when you call them out on being a Republican flunky.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 04:44 PM
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11. there are such things as paid trolls, but some are just doing it on their own dime
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:44 AM
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14. Oh, I think they are "true believers".
.....they just get their marching orders and talking points from some sort of clearinghouse and run off to any non-political board they can find to spread the "good word".
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:49 AM
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15. you can tell the paid ones by how they respond to your replies
the paid ones will simply repeat catchphrases ad nauseum even when they don't make sense. When you get a lot of "I'm bored with that," "old news," "yawn," and other canned responses, you know you've got one.

The real righties will at least show some acknowledgment of what you said in their response.

Also, paid trolls have impeccable grammar in support of their vapid points.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 01:07 AM
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13. Self-delete
Edited on Mon Sep-10-07 01:44 AM by ProudToBeBlueInRhody
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 04:40 PM
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10. That's because the truth is unworkable for them.
All the bumper stickers like "family values" etc., are just there to further delude the KoolAid drinkers that are their voting base. The leadership of the Republican Party know exactly why they want power and it has nothing to do with the bumper stickers they run their campaigns on. This is why they are morally corrupt because they have no principles other than those that gain them money and power. Money and power gives them the means to pursue their depraved appetites after wards and pursue them they will.

They aren't upset about Vikker's and Craig's sexual peccadillo's. They are just upset that they got caught, so any discussion of their morals doesn't help them stay in power so it must be removed and covered up. Of course the Greek chorus of the KoolAid drinkers aids and abets these creeps by helping them to maintain the appearance of being moral standard bearers.
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 07:27 PM
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12. Well put.
It bugs me to see a neutral forum devoured by these beasts though. Administrators and moderators have to balance site traffic (profits) with ethics. Hard for some to draw the line.

I know that I'm hated at some supposedly "neutral" forums. Have even been banned twice at one and issued several wrist slaps from another.

Never-the-less I more often prefer to post on "neutral" forums than dedicated Democratic ones. This simply so because it carries the message more. That and pissing off the GOP'ers.

Right here? Well it's preaching to the choir.

So i use D/U as a resource and spread most of my thoughts elsewhere. More often than not. There may even be a price on my head!
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