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Sun Sep-09-07 07:58 PM
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LOL Freepers think it's fake too... |
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Sun Sep-09-07 07:59 PM
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1. Wow. You know it's bad when your own idiot base won't believe you. |
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:21 PM
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2. They're still idiots, though |
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as evidenced by this comment
"Because the Left want him to be alive. It gives them a political out to be “anti war” while claiming, wrongly, not to be pro terrorists."
Yeah, must be the Left fishing him out any time Bush wants to create more fear. Makes perfect sense. :crazy:
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:24 PM
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4. You saw that too huh? This guy is hard core Limbaugh. |
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:29 PM
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6. How anyone could really believe that the left wants terrorists to act |
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:34 PM
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8. The only columnists I've seen openly expressing their hope for more terrorist attacks have been |
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conservatives hoping for a jingoism revival.
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Mon Sep-10-07 06:46 AM
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But let's not let reality get in the way of their little lives...
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Sun Sep-09-07 11:09 PM
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20. Well, we accuse the Right of allowing terrorism for their own political gain |
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So I assume they accuse us of the same thing.
However, since they've been gaining and we've been losing politically, I'd say our accusations have much bigger change of being right than theirs.
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:56 PM
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10. No matter how I twist those words they make no sense at all, |
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zero logic at all. How would his being alive give us an out to be "anti-war"?
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Mon Sep-10-07 06:42 AM
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This person must have a sad and complicated life.
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:56 PM
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11. Like the left has control of media or anything else in this country |
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Sometimes their twisted, twisted logic almost gives me a headache.
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Mon Sep-10-07 06:45 AM
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25. Yeah, I still can't believe |
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that some of them still believe the myth of the liberal media. It's just so stupid....
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Sun Sep-09-07 11:23 PM
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21. it's one thing to hear rightwing garbage on talk radio |
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it is especially sickening to see it for yourself how such badly done propganda actually works on idiots
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Mon Sep-10-07 06:45 AM
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:23 PM
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3. Yes, the deluded on both sides are united on this one. |
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:25 PM
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5. You believe him to be alive? |
Marr
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:32 PM
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"whoever did write it...had political aspirations in the chatter."
Yes, and who does that point to? I mean, if you were concerned about global climate change, would you release a tape with Osama bin Laden mouthing your concerns? No.
However, if you were... say... a conservative Republican, it would benefit you quite a bit to have bin Laden be seen to essentially adopt the Democratic platform, wouldn't it?
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Sun Sep-09-07 08:46 PM
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I've been trying to articulate the same idea you express.
I think I'm going to do an OP on it.
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Sun Sep-09-07 09:00 PM
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12. In other words: "follow the money" |
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Since Watergate and my quasi-hippy parents, I can't sneeze without one of them telling me to "follow the money." And they are -- invariably and without failure -- correct.
Who's got the most to gain from a bin Laden tape (other than bin Laden, obviously)?
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Sun Sep-09-07 09:14 PM
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13. correct! but the debate on whether or not it is fake is kind of moot |
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Don't get me wrong, I have my doubts about its authenticity, but fake or not, the point is the same.
Bin Laden's imitation of our words was meant to discredit the people who would withdraw our forces from Iraq. Whoever released the video does NOT want us out of Iraq.
The only logical thing to do then, is exactly what Bin Laden says, not what he means, and leave.
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Sun Sep-09-07 09:36 PM
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15. OK, let's even pretend it IS Bin Laden on the tape |
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Assuming it IS Bin Laden, aside from a diplomatic victory for OBL, the harm in us leaving Iraq would be...?
If we had any collective balls, then appearances wouldn't matter.
(I think we're in agreement here, ultimately)
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Sun Sep-09-07 09:18 PM
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14. "why do we swallow it as whole cloth?" - LOL! |
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Sun Sep-09-07 09:41 PM
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16. The freeps all know because they speak arabic so well. nt (sarcasm) |
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Sun Sep-09-07 09:46 PM
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17. Smells like "yellow cake" in here. |
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Sun Sep-09-07 10:56 PM
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18. The nutjob extreme is active on both sides |
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for fuck's sakes, DU, try not to be sooooo insultingly dumb. OBL is alive and well. He organized 9/11 you know. Nowadays, he doesn't have much power over the organization, but he's still a good figurehead and a good PR man (especially with his fancy US speechwriter). It's a shock that he seems to have gotten away with 9/11 and I'm surprised that no one has managed to kill him yet. Of course, he's living in the tribal areas of Pakistan, where he enjoys popular support from tribal elders who keep him safe from an impotent Pakistani government. It's not that hard to follow.
but fuck the video's real.
PS I know what asinine crap is lurking behind the veneer of doubt regarding this video, and let me tell you point blank: LIHOP and MIHOP are the dumbest, most offensive and degrading damn things anyone has ever thought up. Stupid crap like LIHOP and MIHOP costs support for Democratic and Progressive causes. It hurts us. It's an affront to reason. Just stupid.
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Sun Sep-09-07 11:01 PM
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19. Bin Laden organized 9/11? |
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I don't doubt that it may be true, but you seem pretty sure. Is it based on anything concrete? I know that the Bush administration promised us a white paper that would prove bin Laden masterminded the attacks six years ago, but for some reason it was never issued.
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Sun Sep-09-07 11:26 PM
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22. Actually YOU DON"T KNOW ANY OF THAT.... |
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for fuck's sakes, try not to be sooooo insultingly dumb. OBL is likely dead. In fact there are a great many authorities who have said this. He likely had nothing to do with 911.
The video is fake.
Have a nice day
B-)
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Sun Sep-09-07 11:34 PM
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23. Maybe you should go to the F.B.I. with your evidence since you are absolutely, |
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positively, 100% without a doubt certain that Bin Laden "organized 9/11 you know".
I think they'd like to hear from you, since they haven't been able to find any solid evidence to pin it on him, thus the reason he's NOT on the Most Wanted list for 9-11.
Since you state it as such truth, you do have corroborating evidence.... don't you?
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Mon Sep-10-07 07:47 AM
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28. One freeper calls Islam a "crazy religion". |
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Incidentally, there was some discussion on an earlier thread about the fact that Muslims are not allowed to dye their hair and beard black. They can apparently dye it other colors, but not black. (Talk about a crazy “religion” - Islam takes the cake!) How about Binnie with a Day-Glo pink beard?
How long would it take someone to find some "crazy" quotes in the Bible? We could start with those verses about killing your neighbor if you catch him working on Sunday, or if you see him eating shellfish. And don't forget Leviticus 25:44, which states that one may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.
Maybe all religions have "crazy" stuff in their scriptures.
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