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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:08 PM
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OK...in another post "flabbergasted" pointed out...
...that even the freepers aren't fooled by the new "bin Laden" tape http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1770834

So...given the general skepticism this has been met with all around...why would the administration post this? Are they so stupid as to expect people to accept it? Even al-Jazeera is skeptical, as was ABC news.

Why are they really hauling this thing out, given that it seems so improbable on so many levels?
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:09 PM
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1. Most People are too busy shopping.
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 08:20 PM by Flabbergasted
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:11 PM
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2. Stupid? Not so much. I think the best word is hubris...
They can do no wrong. The rules do not apply to them. "The unwashed masses" are ignorant and lazy and can be controlled and contained as we see fit.

They may be right on that last past; but I'll shower tomorrow and prove them partly wrong. :evilgrin:

from dictionary.com

"hubris
1884, from Gk. hybris "wanton violence, insolence, outrage," originally "presumption toward the gods," of unknown origin."

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:12 PM
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3. I know. The media reports like it's a given it's him. It's ridiculous.
Seems pretty obvious that the dude in the tape looks awfully different from previous editions of "Osama Bin Laden":





Look at the shape of the eyes, the eyebrows, the upper head. It's a totally different guy.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:13 PM
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4. My wife and I just ate at the Golden Corral here
At the table behind us there were three good old boys eating, talking about hunting deer and stuff. Then one of them mentioned the Osama video and said that why was his beard all dark when it was full of white before. Then he added that it's strange that a video always appears when bush is in doodoo. The others were agreeing with him that something just didn't seem right about the video.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:13 PM
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5. Another of their endless distractions? It seems to be working. nt
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:14 PM
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6. Because they've never actually cared if anyone believed their bullshit or not.
Look at the old Soviet Union: The people who controlled
that country knew perfectly well that none of the citizens
believed anything printed in Pravda, but they never stopped
printing it.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:17 PM
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7. Counterfeit or not, it's to their advantage to talk it up.
Apparently there isn't a down side to a Bin Laden appearance since the public doesn't seem to realize that jr has failed to capture his ass.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:21 PM
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8. And yet Sadamn has been hung months ago. And he never harmed an American.
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 08:22 PM by Flabbergasted
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:25 PM
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10. Thanks, flabbergasted, for letting me link to your post...
:hi:
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:27 PM
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12. It's an honor.
:hi:
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:22 PM
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9. well...you have all made good points...
...I just don't understand the sloppiness of the whole thing...there are members of the Photography thread (DS1, regnad kcin, Maestro, etc, etc.) who could do a better job replicating the dude.

I am...puzzled...as to why they would trot out such an apparent fraud...and call further attention to it by changing the beard color...doesn't make sense...
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:26 PM
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11. The CIA has confirmed it I wonder what some independent labs will say.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:28 PM
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13. There was someone on DU (yesterday, I think) who...
...did a very simple photo-overlay which seemed pretty damning...see, that's the thing...people outside the CIA have the capability to check this stuff...they must realize that... :shrug:
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tnlurker Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:36 PM
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19. Yes, But
The other people that check this out will never have it reported on the TV news. Thus not one except the few on the internet that read about it will know.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:42 PM
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20. yeah...I'm in my 50's...ex-military...and the older I get
the more pissed I get at the dissonance between what we say (and have always said) we stand for, and the reality of what we do... :(
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:30 PM
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14. the "dumbing down" of the administration
so many have left or been purged that decisions are now being made by twenty-something liberty university grads with the level of sophistication of a four-year old bringing mommy a fistful of dandelions as a "bo-kay"
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:33 PM
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16. So in other words Think Tanks like The Heritage foundation are in charge?
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:32 PM
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15. they want us to think first of him with the next false flag op.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:33 PM
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17. Yep. Good Possibility.
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:34 PM
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18. The fact that they have gotten away
with shoving lies down Americans' throats. Like Saddam's connection
and/or responsibility for 9-11. :grr:
That said, even if - by the remotest chance - the video was real...
the American people just do not believe bushco anymore, at least
the majority of them do not.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 09:17 PM
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21. I'd be more concerned about ...
what the fake Osama has up his sleave. I'd ask Dick but, as usual, he's at his undisclosed location. I must say however, the quality of his fake news has really taken a dive since Karl left.
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