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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:41 AM
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Ugh. McCain and LIEberman pen an OpEd for the WSJ: Listening to Petraeus
Listening to Petraeus
The president had the courage to change course on Iraq. Does Congress?

BY JOHN MCCAIN AND JOE LIEBERMAN
Monday, September 10, 2007 12:01 a.m. EDT

Today, Gen. David Petraeus--commander of our forces in Iraq--returns to Washington to report on the war in Iraq and the new counterinsurgency strategy he has been implementing there. We hope that opponents of the war in Congress will listen carefully to the evidence that the U.S. military is at last making real and significant progress in its offensive against al Qaeda in Iraq.

Consider how the situation has changed. A year ago, al Qaeda in Iraq controlled large swaths of the country's territory. Today it is being driven out of its former strongholds in Anbar and Diyala provinces by the surge in U.S. forces and those of our Iraqi allies. A year ago, sectarian violence was spiraling out of control in Iraq, fanned by al Qaeda. Today civilian murders in Baghdad are down over 50%.

As facts on the ground in Iraq have improved, some critics of the war have changed their stance. As Democratic Congress man Brian Baird, who voted against the invasion of Iraq, recently wrote after returning from Baghdad: "he people, strategies, and facts on the ground have changed for the better, and those changes justify changing our position on what should be done."

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http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010585

And if that isn't bad enough, there's evidence that this concentrated PR campaign run by bushco and his pals like McCain and LIEberman,is working. Two new polls show that Americans don't know wtf they want, but that they trust the generals more than Congress or the admin. Why do you think that every 2nd word out of bush's mouth is Petraeus?
No matter what the public says, that doesn't exonerate the leadership for their appalling lack of same.

Link to polls:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_090907.html
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:46 AM
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1. I still wonder
if McCain will consider announcing that Lieberman will be his choice for VP, in order to double the dynamic appeal of his ticket. Of course, their party could lose two staunch republican votes in the senate .....
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:52 AM
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2. Oddly enough
the only people whose opinion of McCain that would boost, are repubs.
Lieberman is more popular than McCain. They admire Lieberman for "standing up" for what's right and against his own evil party. McCain is seen as a collaborator with dems.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:18 AM
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4. Not going to be applicable
The VP isn't chosen until after the convention, and after a candidate gets the nomination. McCain isn't going to win the nomination.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:32 AM
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5. Are you sure?
Like, really-really sure? I thought VPs were picked before candidates even announced for the primarily. Maybe that was just Cheney.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 08:37 AM
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6. I could be wrong, won't deny that
But the person that is going to win is known long before the convention, and only the winner would select a VP candidate. McCain isn't going to win the nomination.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 05:55 AM
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3. HuggyBody and KissyFace -- together again! (n/t)
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:43 AM
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7. Ugh
What a pair of nutty hawks they are.

On clicking on the article, I was offered a few other right-wing sites, including the chance to sign up for Newt Gingrich's weekly e-mail newsletter. What an unmissable treat!
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 09:45 AM
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8. Note to country: don't be fuckwipes like the Connecticut electorate.
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