Senate talking about passing a condemnation of MoveOn ad

[HughMoran]

I am enjoying this whining McConnell pissing and moaning about MoveOn. It must have been a good ad if it bothered these war mongers that much.

I'm going to double my next contribution to MoveOn.

[ck4829]

1. Somebody BETTER bring up the Purple Heart Bandages

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1781411

[HughMoran]

4. Absolutely - thanks for providing that link

Thinking about the horrific HYPOCRISY of the Republicans made my blood boil.





Filthy hateful hypocrits.

[Breeze54]

8. Should send Bonehead all those pics and remind him!!!

Great idea! :)

[Mass]

2. Good ad for them. They do not have to speak about Iraq. They speak about

the title of the ad instead.

[Zodiak]

3. As over the top as some call it

No one can deny that "Betray US" is a powerful two-word sound byte that will stick in people's minds.

The pukes know what they are doing, and they know when one of their own weapons is turned against them.

I think Moveon did great job....gutsy...and it got th word out. All of the hooplah about how very very bad they are only catapults the propaganda.

It worked for the swift-boaters, and so it will work for us.

THAT is why the pukes are trying hard to counter it. Because it works....ugly....but it works.

[MethuenProgressive]

5. Only if they pass a condemnation of Swiftboaters

Fuck the Republicons, and the yatch they sailed in on...

[HughMoran]

7. Yep, let's have the Dems attach language about the Swiftboaters

...and the anti-military purple-heart Republican convention ass holes

[bluestateguy]

6. Has that ever been done before?

A house of Congress passing a condemnation of an ad put on by an independent group? If they want to go down this route, then we might want to add some amendments to include the following condemnations:

The Willie Horton ad (1988).
The Jesse Helms ad "you needed that job, but they had to give it to a minority" (1990).
Saxby Chambliss's ad putting Max Cleland next to Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden (2002).

[HughMoran]

9. Don't forget to tack on the Swift Boat campaign!

The most digusting ad campaign in history. I'm glad MoveOn is playing for keeps this time.

War kills innocent people. What could be a better cause?

[Larkspur]

10. Betcha Lieber-bush will co-sponsor this

[Hubert Flottz]

32. Lieberlicker Prolly invented it!

Somebody check Joes Diaper...and measure his stance!

[Tesha]

36. He was calling for condemnatation yesterday.

http://www.yorkdispatch.com/nationworld/ci_6861383

> Nearly two dozen senators, all Republicans except for Sen. Joseph Lieberman,
> an independent from Connecticut, called on Democrats to denounce the advertisement.

[Hubert Flottz]

37. If Joe's an "independent" I'm a Chinese Astronaut!

Karl's money bought the best little "independent" bullhorn money could buy, to project the GOP line of Bushit and bombast toward anybody stupid or blind enough to believe that Joe isn't a 100% turncoat POS! If Joe will kiss Bush in public, who knows what he'd do behind closed doors.(I can just about guess though)

[HughMoran]

38. Liber-publican puke

I hate him as much or more than any Republican.

[glitch]

11. Sounds like it touched some nerves - Excellent! K & R nt

:applause:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

12. The ad obviously struck a VERY LARGE nerve

sorts 'the wood from the trees'

[HughMoran]

15. I usually can't stand listening to their hateful whining and accusations

I was actually enjoying listening to McConnells hate-speech because I knew that deep down inside he was acknowledging the effectiveness of this ad. He was, in effect, asking for more ads like this - I think he will get what he wants.

[Freddie Stubbs]

20. Then why did Kerry say that it was "over the top?"

:shrug:

[HughMoran]

22. 'Cause he knew it was effective

...but you realize that politicians have to stay out of the fray & not support independant groups right?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

30. goes back to the 2004 election

when Howard Dean spoke out against the war, they smothered him and then what did we get, no offense to Kerry, but a 'military style candidate'

[Rosa Luxemburg]

23. how effective have Democrats been at taking the GOP to task over the past few years?

the spineless comes to mind!

People are dying in great numbers!

[Freddie Stubbs]

31. Pretty well, actually:

http://tinyurl.com/yz5qn7

[Rosa Luxemburg]

33. The GOP are still there and stilleffective unfortunately!

[Occulus]

34. Republicans HATE it when you accurately predict their behavior.

They hate it with a burning passion and it is OBVIOUS the ad struck a nerve- a huge one.

We need to do MORE of this, not less. We need to plant it in the heads of people who might listen that these people very well may lie about what they're about to say. If we're wrong, and they tell the truth about xyz subject, we can always apologize later.

It is far easier to beg pardon than it is to ask permission. I think we should start criticizing first, then listen to what they have to say, and rebut. Again, we can always apologize if we're wrong about them.

Frame their asses as liars every single time until they prove otherwise.

[HughMoran]

35. Petraeus clearly betrayed the American people by appearing on Faux news

He lost any shred of credibilty he may have had after appearing on that hateful RW propaganda channel.

[ShortnFiery]

13. Too funny! They are arrogant politicos - suck-it-up and continue with the people's business ...

you hypersensitive, arrogant JERKS! :thumbsdown:

[tyedyeto]

14. They don't have anything more pressing to discuss?

:shrug:

[Bitwit1234]

16. Isn't he the guy who got kicked out of the army

for feeling his buddies privates, you know the private who felt a private.

[KharmaTrain]

17. Say Good, Say Bad, Just Say

Kudos to MoveOn!!! The "outrage" by the Mighty Wurlitzer has drawn a lot of people's attention to the ad...and, to their consternation...people read it and agree with it.

When I heard the first whining yesterday, I went to MoveOn and kicked them a donation...and I'm ready to go again if this is creating such a "fuss".

Yep, this ad hit a nerve that the paid-for Ari Fleisher astroturf group could only dream of. It's gotten people's attention and they're quetioning not only Iraq but are paying close attention to what Petreus is trying to peddle.

So keep up all the "outrage"...it's worked soooo well in recent times in destroying Al Franken and Michael Moore and Daily Kos...

[Bluzmann57]

18. McConnell should just ignore it

Unless he wants the swiftboaters, etc. brought up. I do think that MoveOn crossed the line of decency but there is no reason to have any type of Senatorial discussion about it. There are an awful lot of things going on in America and the world that the Senate should consider other than some stupid ad. Incidentally, I got a solicitation email from MoveOn about that ad, and did not contribute. I think that overall they do good work though.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

19. sometimes the line has to be crossed in politics

unless one is happy with the status quo

[HughMoran]

21. Hateful Republican war monger mentions MoveOn ad - "despicable"

...he called it. He also immediately placed his lips firmly against Betray-us's ass.

This is during the Senate hearing with Betray US BTW.

...speaking of a despicable advertisement - Republicans have no shame.

[Robbien]

24. Wasting our taxpayer dollar funded congressional time to sanction free speech

Typical of the GOP.

Hey it is not as if Congress could be doing anything meaningful with that time other than this act of surpressing free speech.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

26. I guess they think this may win them votes?

[HughMoran]

27. Pretty pathetic of them - especially considering the hateful "independant" RW groups

that they are convieniently ignoring. Open the can of worms you morans - we will serve up a nice plate of nightcrawlers for ya!

[AlCzervik]

25. thank god there is no other pressing business for the senate, i'm glad they have so much

free time.

[spanone]

28. Yea that pesky freedom of speech shit just can't stand

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

29. Exactly spanone, Nail meet hammer... n/t