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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:53 AM
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Should we just say "F*ck it!" and give the whole mess to the GOP to clean up?
Seriously. It's a radical thought, I know, but consider the massive set-up facing any potential Democratic president. Hillary and Obama aren't really about making a big change anyway, and DK, sorry to say, is not going to be elected. If the major candidates are going to continue this mess anyway, shouldn't we consider just letting one of the Republican Seven Dorks have it?

If nothing is going to change anyway, shouldn't we let THEM own it, and not pawn this disaster off on us, like Bush is trying to do?

I could never pull the lever for any GOP candidate, personally. I've done it once in the past, but never again. But I wouldn't mind letting them take this war and shove it up their asses until their entire party completely disintegrates. After all, look what it's doing to US.

:shrug:

I'm just getting to that WTF point, I guess.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:54 AM
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1. the only possibility in your scenario i like is bloomberg
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:55 AM
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2. I believe that is the RepubliKlian plan.
The bushies have set up so many time bombs to explode in 2009 that whoever is the next Pres they'd better be damned good.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:56 AM
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3. The neocons want a wider war
I would like to minimize a chance of war with Iran.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:57 AM
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4. No, we take control and make them clean up their mess.
If we say fuck it, they are still in charge.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:15 AM
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13. the neo cons don't think it is a mess. they 'planned' the mess


the mess is working.

the neo cons don't do clean ups
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:50 AM
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17. That's why we take control and make them do it.
You don't let a rabid puppy eat your sofa because it doesn't understand it isn't supposed to.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:57 AM
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5. only if you'll enjoy the further erosion of your rights, privacy, sovereignty
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:59 AM
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6. And you think its bad now?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:59 AM
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7. What mess?
They don't consider it a mess. Money being made everywhere. Poor kids make great cannon fodder.

Nothing to clean up.

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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:17 AM
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15. our minds were running together, I posted before reading your


post. :)
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 09:59 AM
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8. One problem with that: GOP won't clean this up.
They'll continue to screw it up until it's even worse than it is now.


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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:00 AM
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11. Coke!
You owe me a Coke.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:00 AM
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9. Problem is, the GOP doesn't want the mess cleaned up.
Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer, favored rightwing corporations like Halliburton up to their eyeballs in lucrative no-bid contracts, spanning the globe with soldiers and taxpayer dollars to ensure US corporations prosper. What could be better in their view?

Even if Democrats don't do anything about it, they probably won't enthusiastically make it worse like Republicans would.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:00 AM
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10. That's probably what we're doing without really intending to
:argh:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:05 AM
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12. Ah, I think that's the goppers plan....
What are you crazy?? Snap out of it!!!

The War On Iraq isn't the only thing that needs fixing! There's a whole laundry list!!

Our best bet is to get more Dems and Progressive's in the WH, and both houses and have

a 'true majority" that can vote!

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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:16 AM
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14. The Supreme Court is still salvagable
For that reason alone, we need to rescue government from the neocons.



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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:19 AM
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16. how is the supremes salvagable?
nt
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 10:51 AM
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18. Scalia, Alito, Roberts and Cheney all go hunting together?
:shrug:
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:08 AM
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19. This is why we need a mutliparty system.
Both the parties seem more interested in making sure they keep their seats in the Senate than doing the right thing in Iraq. Maybe if they had a 3rd or 4th party breathing down their neck, things would change.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:27 AM
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20. We need an over 60 vote majority to get anything done...
we don't have that ...yet!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:31 AM
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21. are you crazy?
:wtf:

I kinda like the idea of Social Security and Medicare and clean air.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:31 AM
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22. The GOP doesn't think it's a mess to be cleaned up. They profit from war, so they always want war.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 11:32 AM
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23. you want a republican appointing the Supreme court justices?
that is the one thing that will always keep me voting for the democratic nominee.
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