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[LSK]

Thread 4

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1782921&mesg_id=1782921

[goodgd_yall]

1. Menendez is good n/t

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

6. I'd like to see that again.

K&R

[Wheezy]

2. thank you. Reminder: This is live on C-Span

Menendez done.

Isakson R-Georgia is up.

[Breeze54]

3. Menendez is kicking ass!!!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[ClayZ]

18. Menendez "I used a ruler to tell me

that after the surge we will be back to Nov. 2006 levels of success."

I add: (or lack there of)

[Bluerthanblue]

4. "tell me where this ends"-!!! that is what pet. is known to have asked-

but he can't answer when pressed-

he's not so 'slick' right now.

[OzarkDem]

17. Neverending

he's going to leave it for the next Dem president along with plenty of military poison pills and booby traps that will make it nearly impossible to disengage.

Whoever the next Dem president is, they're going to have to be very skillful, decisive and strong to get us out of the ME.

[flyarm]

27. Gore..he is our only chance!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

5. I've had it up to here. Bring the troops home NOW!!!!!!!! This is PNAC in motion!

Endless Wars!!!! Fuck them!!!!!!!

[bdamomma]

16. endless pre emptive wars, this really really sucks.

we need to scream out loud we will not stand for this anymore, killing innocent iraqi civilians and americans for what, for *'ie's cronies and oil businessmen. stinking SOB's

[flyarm]

30. no shit..i have had enough too we all need to make many calls to these people today!! eom

[bdamomma]

40. instead of throwing out protestors who are telling the truth

those brown shirts need to go to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

[bdamomma]

7. Petreaus would say fuck the American people we are not relevant.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

14. That is exactly what he is saying in between his words. Fuck him! nt

[bdamomma]

22. we are a force not to be ignored.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

33. I'm glad you're so certain. I think these sociopaths are going to hold on to

this like pit bulls, not caring about the consequences of their actions. These people are really Crazy.

[bdamomma]

100. I only wish we would find our own strength to hold these thugs

responsible for their actions. WE THE PEOPLE and all that stuff.

[Breeze54]

8. Hey Isackson?

Go cheney yourself!! :grr:

[whistle]

9. Menendez needed to just say it, Iraq War is stalemated!!!

[rodeodance]

10. WHOW, Menendez was ON fire!!---really go to the promises NOT met by WH and

Petraeus.

[HughMoran]

11. Another rat-fink Republican moran trying to put a positive spin on this disaster

What a FUCKING moran!

[goodgd_yall]

12. Lying SOB Isakson re: WMD

[LSK]

13. Isaakson is saying WMD were found LOL

"Components"

There are "components" at Walmart too.

:rofl:

[Cameron27]

20. He's a total nutjob.

[Wheezy]

21. my brother picked parts for components in his job

at an office furniture factory.

Who knew they were WMDs?????? :D

[Enrique]

35. also at Circuit City

:popcorn:

[LSK]

44. .

:hide:

[sabra]

15. Did I just hear Sen. Isackson say that we found Iraq's WMD?

:crazy:

[goodgd_yall]

37. No, the components. It true 'cause he says so.

[spanone]

19. shining examples.....then get us the f*ck out

[whistle]

23. How do our troops know who is al Qaeda and who is not?

[LSK]

29. because everyone is Al Queda

They are everywhere!!!!'

:sarcasm:

[bdamomma]

31. they don't, they are involved in a Civil War.

[bdamomma]

get the hook for Isakson please!!

[ThomWV]

36. The White House makes that distinction after they've been shot

Depends on the moment the story is being told more than who the bullit hits.

[Breeze54]

38. The decoder ring and the secret handshake!

:P





:rofl:

[rodeodance]

24. CAN you belive that!!-Petraeuw would not give an answer to a projected

number of years it would take to win over there.

[Breeze54]

25. O.M.G.!! Theyre STILL talking about training Iraqi forces and

"you can't put a time table on it?" :wtf:

They've been saying that for years!!!!!! :grr:

[bdamomma]

we have been in South Korea for over 50 years, is this what we

looking at for Iraq and the Middle East???

[Breeze54]

56. That's what the PNAC and Bush always wanted!

The war machine doesn't make money sitting still, at home! :( :grr:

[eleny]

26. Petaeus being spoon fed answers in the questions now

Here comes the airplane! Nem...nem, Little P.

[rodeodance]

45. That was Sen Joh..Repug.--------another sucking idiot (benchmarks not Important)

[ThomWV]

28. I presume Casey (D, PA) then Vitter (R, LA), and then we get to the real fireworks, Web (D, VA)

Is that the order and who is left to go?

[Wheezy]

32. omg. did he just say

"Crocker, you take a lot of verbal bullets which sometimes penetrate a lot further than the real ones" ????

[ClayZ]

39. That is what he said!

[goodgd_yall]

41. Yep, poor Crocker being picked on.

[LSK]

48. well isnt this asshole responsible for Diplomacy that doesnt exist?

[eleny]

61. That ranks up there with serving ones country "in the culture war"

[rodeodance]

68. yeah-Dems (and some Repugs) are being so Mean to the two little crooks.

[Irishonly]

34. Is Anyone Else's Media Player Stuck?

All I am hearing is "My,my memory tribute to the job you have done and the job Ambassador Crocker has done in Iraq."

[LSK]

43. works ok in RealPlayer

[Breeze54]

46. Just go here and choose Watch Real Player

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cs_cspan3_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

;)

[Magleetis]

42. Ha Ha

Not meeting benchmarks doesn't mean no progress. we are just supposed to believe them that progress is being made. The rupugs are sticking to the same old BS.

[Irishonly]

47. Just Switched

[goodgd_yall]

49. Cardin making some good points

[Cameron27]

53. He really is.

He's clicking off the benchmarks we haven't met.

[Magleetis]

50. Cardin up n/t

[Breeze54]

51. Because the 'surge' was really an escalation and they know it and

they want to keep the 'surged' troops there for another year, at least!!

This is all BS!!! :grr:

[Hubert Flottz]

52. General splain to America why the American armed services can

train an American soldier in about 16 weeks including AIT and you can't train an Iraqi soldier in 6 years? Are you a Blemished B Stock crony General, or are you a REAL AMERICAN GENERAL? Can you account for your failure to deliver?

[rodeodance]

54. Dem saying (from Jones Report)-Iraqi Nat. Police should be Disbanded

[ClayZ]

55. "We failed by our own standards we set up in January"

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

57. Cardin, some of us are frustrated. Frustrated? How about ANGRY? Would you

take this from an employee, lying to you over and over again? Fucking up, over and over again? Please. Where's the spine????

[bdamomma]

I have a thing for that word frustration, it is not frustration it is

anger, and this pre emptive shit, oh, shut up Vitter you whore, picking on Moveon again.

[rodeodance]

58. Dem: If we follow you By next summer we will be back to where we stared in Jan

[Breeze54]

64. Yup! Back to square one!! - They're such liars!!

:grr:

[Cameron27]

59. What happens in Iraq is important to the world,

Cardin says no, it's not popular internationally.

[bdamomma]

60. Cardin is giving it to them too.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

62. But NICELY. Not with passion. No fire in the belly. eom

[Magleetis]

63. Here comes whorebait n/t

[jillan]

65. Vitter - I want to thank you by lining you up with a couple of hot girls.

[againes654]

70. Vitter is an idiot

:puke:

[PatSeg]

72. I just yelled outloud at my computer

What a phony ass

[HughMoran]

73. Oh, I thought I recognized his name - WHOREMONGER!!!

I love it.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

66. Vitter makes a public appearance and complains about Moveon Ad.

[Magleetis]

74. Just wait till

he sees the news conference Larry is holding today.

[Adsos Letter]

75. he called it a "crime"

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

90. Too funny. nt

[Justitia]

94. You must be joking. The senator who pays prostitutes to fuck him? -eom

[whistle]

David (diaper) Vitter up now

[spanone]

shut the fuck up vitter

[bdamomma]

80. what hypocrites huh? why is this guy still there?

[stillrockin]

67. Vitter!

With or sans Depends ?

[LSK]

69. Pantyboy is more worried about Move-on.org

[Cameron27]

71. Moveon hurt Vitters sensibilities ROFL

[OzarkDem]

77. They hit a nerve, good for them!

[stillrockin]

78. ups & downs ? hmmm

[flyarm]

76. ohh do as i say ..not as i do Vitter..where is Loraine Bobbit when we need her?

[rodeodance]

88. Vetter actually saying KEEP the surge-----Do NOT drawdown!

[flyarm]

106. oh vitter would not like draws down ..it might expose his diaper!! lol

[rodeodance]

79. REpug saying alll need condemn the Move-on ad.(Sen. amendment)

[Cameron27]

89. Of course, a verbal attack on Petraeus

is so much worse than his setting up our troops for more attacks in Iraq. It's always fascinating to see the neocon mind in action.

[flyarm]

92. another donation to Move on from me!!..everytime they say it i donate!! woo hoo!!

i want more commercials!!

is there one dem who has the balls to mention Ari's propaganda commercials????????????????

never mind.......

[rodeodance]

115. OK< I will send also.

[againes654]

81. This is making me sick

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[spanone]

82. the only reason petreaus offer ANY drawdown is because the army is broken

[flyarm]

83. hey Vitter do you have clean Diapers on today..or dirty , nasty dirty nasty naughty diapers?

[whistle]

84. Vitter wants to keep more troops in Iraq????

[Breeze54]

96. He's that whore rethug with the diapers and the hookers!

He's an asshole!

[bdamomma]

hey I got an idea, why don't we give a little of anything we got

as far as a donation to Move on.

[rodeodance]

103. Put a uniform on Vitter-you little weazel

[independentpiney]

85. Understandable why Vitter has to pay for sex n/t

[Nimrod2005]

86. Vitter wants us to plan for a longer saty there? A cushion?

[Breeze54]

87. Screw you Vitter!!! Pass one on yourselves for the Ari Fleisher ads!!

and the RNC "purple hearts"! Assholes!!

Republicans Trivialize Purple Heart ...

[whistle]

93. MoveOn.org needs to do an ad about David (diaper) Vitter

[Breeze54]

Larry Flint is going after Vitter today!! (NEWS FLASH!)

David Vitter: Sex, Lies and Polygraphs

http://www.bayoubuzz.com/News/Louisiana/Politics/David_Vitter_Sex_Lies_and__Polygraphs__4634.asp

Written by: Jeff Crouere

The story that U.S. Senator David Vitter (R-LA) hoped would go away refuses to die, thanks to the persistence of Hustler publisher Larry Flynt. Yesterday, he announced that former New Orleans prostitute Wendy Yow Ellis, also known as Wendy Cortez, had passed a polygraph test administered by an international lie detector expert, Edward Gelb, former President of the American Polygraph Association. Cortez claims that she had a four month paid relationship at a French Quarter hotel with Vitter in 1999 while he was a State Representative. The polygraph test shows she is telling the truth. According to Mr. Gelb, the chances that Cortez is being untruthful are less than .01 percent.

Today, Flynt will hold a news conference with Cortez to provide more information about her claims. These accusations are nothing new to many of us who follow Louisiana politics. Starting in 1999, I heard reports that congressional candidate and then State Representative David Vitter was a client of a local prostitute named Wendy Cortez. According to GOP State Central Committee member Vincent Bruno, who worked in the campaign of former Governor Dave Treen, Cortez approached him and other Treen volunteers with her claims about a relationship with Vitter. She was upset that Vitter was campaigning for Congress on a family values platform. Eventually, Treen decided not to use the salacious information in his campaign and Vitter was elected.

Despite Vitter’s election to Congress, the prostitute story persisted. It was brought up during a 2002 interview that I conducted with Vitter on my radio show. He was asked directly about his relationship with Wendy Cortez and he denied it. Listen to the audio and decide for yourself whether he was telling the truth-- VITTER RESPONDS ON RINGSIDE RADIO

more.......

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With this new revelation, Vitter faces a crucial leadership test. Will he continue to stonewall and deny the accusations or will he come clean and admit the truth? It seems pretty obvious that Vitter was involved with Cortez and possibly other prostitutes in New Orleans. It was likely a pattern of behavior that Vitter engaged in for several years both in New Orleans and Washington D.C. and did not just start when he was elected to Congress and started to work on Capitol Hill.

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:P

[Nimrod2005]

116. Please donate, I just did

https://pol.moveon.org/donate/donate.html

[Breeze54]

119. I do. I'm a member too!!

;)

[spanone]

91. i guess the republicans didn't hear ANY opposition to the war during recess

seems like they're happy to hang on to juniors coattails

[tridim]

120. Either that, or they just don't care

I'd bet on "they just don't care", because when have they ever cared what the people think?

[Cameron27]

95. Vitter needs to be careful asking bottom up questions lol

[whistle]

97. Vitter asking about Crocker's bottom up lesson...geeze

[flyarm]

101. would that be "bottom " with or without diapers senator vitters??

[flyarm]

98. did Biden just say they had to leave?? before Webb?..ahhh shit!

[TwilightGardener]

107. Webb is on Armed Services Committee, which will grill them next.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

109. Webb will be there in the next hearing. The Armed Services Committee. nt

[TwilightGardener]

112. That's the downside of being the freshman--last to speak, but have to

sit through all of the hearing first!

[Magleetis]

99. He has to leave?

He shouldn't be allowed to leave until all the questions are answered.

[jillan]

105. The Armed Services Committee is up next.

[spanone]

102. c'mon casey aim and fire!

[Wheezy]

104. Bob Casey is sounding like a prosecutor. :) n/t

[Cameron27]

108. It sounds like he's setting him up,

I hope this goes somewhere.

[whistle]

110. Casey questioning Patraeus's effectiveness as the training commander

...of Iraqis from the beginning of the war to Oct'05

[whistle]

122. Who is the last Senator....ah Webb D-VI

[rodeodance]

111. Casey needs a bit of a fire in his quesions!!

[Justitia]

114. yeah, a bit of inflection would be nice. -eom

[LSK]

113. NEW THREAD UP

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1783813&mesg_id=1783813

[Wheezy]

117. Casey is questioning the charts...maybe?

[flyarm]

118. i just called Vitter office i asked what Vitter thinks of Ari;s propaganda commericals and i said

i hope Move On does a commerical with Vitters in diapers..clean or dirty.. and i would donate to that for sure!!

fly

[Breeze54]

121. You hot ticket!

:rofl:

[rodeodance]

123. ha ha