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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:42 PM
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**********Petreaus Armed SVCs Hearing thread 5****************
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:43 PM
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1. watch live here
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:44 PM
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2. Thank you!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:45 PM
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3. Thanks, K and R
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:45 PM
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4. just an aside
Dole has an abnormally huge head.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:48 PM
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7. Not another Viagra joke! n/t
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:48 PM
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8. Just commented on other thread what a dreadful lady she is
But a swell facelift. She is the worst of the worse.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:51 PM
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11. She's a living
bobblehead.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:46 PM
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5. Longest blathering of B.S. ever.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:47 PM
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6. MiniMe gets a pottie break. n/t
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:50 PM
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9. What if Iraq, Kuwait, Syria, Jordan all joined to form a United Arab State?
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:50 PM
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10. OK Evan let's hear what you have to say.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:53 PM
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12. Over these
last few years people have given their poli reps the benefit of the doubt, and now, only doubt remains. Bayh
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 04:56 PM
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13. Bayh sez
CIA says we are creating more terrorists than we are eliminating! We have a net gain in terrorists!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:01 PM
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14. Another reference to moveon.org ad thsi time by Cornyn R-TX
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:02 PM
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15. OMG Cornyn "shocked and chagrined"
by move on ad! Wants everyone to join together and condemn the ad!!
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percussivemadness Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:05 PM
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18. the reaction to the ad is interesting
I personally feel because it has hit the nail on the head. The best thing the reslugs could have done was ignore it, but by focusing on it so much, it has reminded people that noone in the Bush administration gives a flying fvck about the US people...

peace
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:32 PM
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50. This is good PR for move on. Everyone will want to
find that ad and take a look at it!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:15 PM
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37. HOOT
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:17 PM
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41. slow taker today
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:03 PM
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16. Sorry about John Cornyn folks
He's a goon and we hope to replace him come Novemeber 2008. Expect him to say a lot of stupid things, smattered with the typical repub talky points.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:07 PM
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20. I'm sorry he's the OTHER embarrassment from Texas
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:22 PM
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45. We can only hope the Cornys and Inhofes of the Senate bury
themselves. Inhofe is my Senator and the biggest buffoon in the Senate. He truly believes in a flat earth.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:04 PM
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17. I flipped off Cornhole immediately
I know he is hate embodied...
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:06 PM
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19. Sorry Cornhole, it is not good news!
You got it all wrong!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:08 PM
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21. K&R nt
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:09 PM
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22. Hillary is up
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:09 PM
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23. Clinton is up!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:10 PM
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25. I like the way she looks when she's pissed
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:12 PM
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31. She looks excellent today.
I love watching her when she's mad. (and I am not a hil fan). She can command a room.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:10 PM
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24. Hillary is up
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:11 PM
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30. She's starting out with some zingers! Keep it up! nt
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:10 PM
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26. Please Rec, peeps!
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percussivemadness Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:11 PM
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29. k&r
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:11 PM
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27. She is going to give it to em'!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:14 PM
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33. I'd hate to be on the receiving end of her probing (NO double entendre intended) nt
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:11 PM
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28. K & R'd-- Senator Clinton speaking now!
I have to hear this!!

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:14 PM
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34. she is talking of troop deaths
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:14 PM
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35. Clinton
Iraqi pub opinion shows since escallation began, Iraqi opinion has starkly turned against US occupation. 65-70% Iraqis say occupation has worsened security.
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:13 PM
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32. Hillary is talking about the 9/11 memorial this morning, and bin Laden
Listening to the nearly 3000 names being read this morning in the rain, she said we are still seeing bin Laden on our tv sets. Said something about them asking us to buy into an alter-reality.

Charts don't tell the whole story.

Civilian deaths up. Car bombings up. American casualties up in 2007 from 2006. 739 killed this year so far.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:14 PM
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36. Finally---Iraqi public opinion is brought up!
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percussivemadness Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:15 PM
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38. yeps - she is doing a good job
peace
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Wheezy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:16 PM
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40. asking about a contradiction in testimony
don't you think the american people deserve a specific answer in regard to the failure of the Iraqi gov't?
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:16 PM
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39. "I give you credit for"
spinning. A grim reality that he gives a positive view of.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:18 PM
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42. Our government not only the Iraqi government is failing Iraq
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:20 PM
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43. Give'em Hell Hillary...no wonder the repukes are terrified of Hillary
...becoming president :bounce:
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:24 PM
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46. I wanted more fire and brimstone but I respect that
she started right out saying she spent the day in New York in the rain at the memorial and did not start with thanking everyone for their service and kissing up to them like the rest.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:28 PM
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48. I liked that she just did her job without trying to impress what a great president she'd be
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:31 PM
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49. Yes,
She rattled off statistics quickly and simply which pointed out the complete bullsh&t Petraus is trying to present And she did her job efficiently and without a lot of fanfare and drama.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:49 PM
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56. Agreed. W/ some of the others (i.e. Obama, McCain..) it seemed they were just reciting their stump
speech.

I have noticed that when she's in the Senate, Sen. Clinton is not all about pontificating and just revamping her stump speech.

She's very serious, thoughtful, and presents the facts as they are.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:22 PM
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44. Yuck, now it's Thune
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:28 PM
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47. Iraq Insurgents Attack U.S. Headquarters
Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject Iraq Insurgents Attack U.S. Headquarters
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2987017#2987017
2987017, Iraq Insurgents Attack U.S. Headquarters
Posted by bemildred on Tue Sep-11-07 05:04 PM

Source: AP

BAGHDAD (AP) -- Insurgents fired rockets or mortars Tuesday at the sprawling garrison that houses the headquarters of American forces in Iraq, killing one person and wounding 11 coalition soldiers, the U.S. command said.

The command said the person killed was a "third country national," meaning someone who is not an American or Iraqi. Most troops stationed at Camp Victory are American but other coalition soldiers are based at the complex near Baghdad International Airport. No further details on the attack were immediately released.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/IRAQ?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-09-11-17-40-16
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:34 PM
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51. All righty then.
The surge must be working.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:43 PM
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52. "The goal posts keep moving"---Dem from Arkansas
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:43 PM
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53. Mel Martinez another embarrassment from Florida...who are we fighting in Iraq
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:48 PM
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54. Mel got what he wanted, Cuban mafia are safe in Iraq
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:48 PM
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55. He asks, "Who is the enemy in Iraq"
P answers again, "it the biggest wolf is Alcaida Iraq."

Many Dems pointed out that Alciada was not in Iraq until we got there.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:51 PM
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58. War profiteers are also safe
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:51 PM
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57. Web is up again!
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:52 PM
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59. The Webbster!
Situation in Anbar turned around before surge began. My son is a marine they were knocking back Ramaddi street by street and they deserve credit!
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:53 PM
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60. Is this a repeat from today or are they still going?
I got distracted and lost count! ;)
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:55 PM
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64. Still going at it. Armed Services Committee hearing.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:56 PM
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66. I thought C-Span was re-running it from today!
Thanks!
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:06 PM
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70. No, the one you are thinking of is Foreign Relations Committee
hearing (it was before this one) hopefully that will be rerun later. Right now we are still live in Armed Services Com Hearing.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:54 PM
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61. also a little we TOLD YOU SO at the onset.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:54 PM
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62. Webb wants
safety net under troops. He never will give up on that. His daughter's boyfriend is a 4 year marine did 2 tours, more tours in afgi then he gets called back again to Iraq.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:55 PM
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63. YES!! Webb mentions Stop-Loss!! Woot!!
:woohoo: :woohoo:

"This is the kind of thing people aren't seeing!" :woohoo:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:56 PM
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65. Jim Webb asks for a safety net for the troops don't leave them in theater
...until they are wounded, killed or break down
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:59 PM
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67. Crocker is stymied by Webb's question that compares Iraq to Lebanon
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:01 PM
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68. Crocker is losing it on Lebanon
Webb makes one more point. When US picked a side, even though it was Lebanese army, all other factions decided we were fair game and that could be argued to be cause of destruction of the airport and deaths of 240 marines.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:04 PM
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69. Webb ends, "It is dangerous to be in a 5 sided argument."
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 06:05 PM by ClayZ
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:11 PM
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71. Wow, what will bring the Iraqis together is soccer
:yoiks:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:15 PM
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72. Doesn't Ambassador Crocker report to Condi Rice?
...Warner is suggesting diplomatic relations and Crocker is agreeing, but wouldn't Condi Rice have final say?
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:18 PM
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73. Where is Condi? (Shopping for shoes?)
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:20 PM
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74. Clair McCaskill
Reminds the group how she got elected. Feels a mandate from her election to disagree and challenge and ask questions.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:21 PM
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75. McCaskill is up!
Explaining how she got there. She is asking what leverage we have? Clearly is it not working, she says.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:25 PM
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77. She asks them do we even have the leverage to get the
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 06:26 PM by trashcanistanista
Iraqi gov. to come back from vacation? LOL. They couldn't give her a straight answer.
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:29 PM
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80. McCaskill says the cost of one month in Iraq could
pay for health care for 80,000 American children. She is talking money, fraud, stealing money from the American people, overspending, and what is being done on a day to day basis to address this and making sure money is being spent wisely.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:35 PM
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84. Good for her! More of our Dem senators should grill them on contractor budgets
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:24 PM
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76. Thanks for keeping up with this,
K&R
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:27 PM
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78. She is bringing up the $$$ spent in the conflict
expecially the Privitization!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:28 PM
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79. Half a trillion dollars, right?
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:29 PM
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81. In debt!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:32 PM
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82. Crocker says most of security is Private Contractors.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:34 PM
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83. mid-march my ass....will they trust them again?
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:40 PM
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87. I sure as hell hope not.
It's over. Adjourned.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:36 PM
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85. Thanks for these threads!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:38 PM
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86. thanks beaverhausen
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:42 PM
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88. Thank you!
and to everybody who participated!:hi:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:55 PM
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89. thanks again you guys, now I have to go back to read the
commentary I missed.
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