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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:46 PM
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Even the Birchers are questioning the Barksdale Nuke Theft
(perhaps engineered by Cheney?):

"'The official explanation has not quelled speculation that the B-52 flight was part of secret preparations for future hostilities in the Middle East. Several analysts have pointed out, for instance, that it is highly unlikely that six nuclear weapons could be loaded onto a bomber by mistake. Writing in the Strategic Security Blog of the Federation of American Scientists, analyst Hans M. Kristensen noted: "Pilots (or anyone else) are not supposed to just fly off with nuclear bombs, and base commanders are not supposed to tell them to do so unless so ordered by higher command. In the best of circumstances the system worked, and someone 'upstairs' actually authorized the transport of nuclear cruise missiles on a B-52H bomber.'"

http://www.jbs.org/node/5461
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:51 PM
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1. I still think it was Blackwater trying to steal them.
I have no proof, it's just a hunch. We already know nuke security is now handled by contractors, we just don't know which contractor.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:00 PM
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6. You're close to the truth as I see it
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 06:01 PM by seemslikeadream
DOMINONISTS IN THE AIR FORCE

Nukes Over Amerika (Weekend Edition)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1765351
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:03 PM
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7. The Carlyle Group
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 06:09 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.fredsakademiet.dk/library/stealth.htm

UC Regents Meeting - May 15, 2003: The Point ManOne year ago Admiral Linton Brooks, Administrator of the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA) under DOE, informed Lt. Governor Cruz Bustamante and the UC Regents that the management contract for the nuclear weapons labs would be put up for competitive bid for the first time, with the award made in 2005. When a Regent asked if it would be for all the labs or just Los Alamos, he replied that "it would be for Los Alamos". Later another Regent questioned him again, and this time he said "it would be inconceivable for just one lab". He requested a competitive bid from UC, but the Regents were now leery of the politics involved, and Brooks was challenged by a fiery Bustamante. The Lt. Governor demanded to know why UC should waste millions of dollars preparing a bid when the University of Texas was the most favored institution to get the award, and had a member of the University of Texas on the blue ribbon panel making the award decision.

Admiral Brooks also informed the Board of Regents that "we’re back in the bomb business" because Los Alamos had just produced the first plutonium "pit" since Rocky Flats closed down. He indicated that they would be making "mini-nukes" only, and nuclear weapons testing would start at the Nevada Test Site in 2005. An hour later, and 45 miles away, he announced to Livermore employees that "we’re back in the bomb business" and they would be making big ones, little ones, and more. By this time it seemed to me that Admiral Brooks was a slippery character and I began to wonder why an Admiral was involved.

UC Regents Meeting - August 17, 2004: Two Admirals Stage "The Setup"On August 4, 2004, UC President Dynes, a physicist and consultant to Los Alamos and former Chancellor of UC San Diego, and Gerald Parsky, Chair of the UC Regents, visited Los Alamos and met with employees over recent security and safety lapses repeated at the lab. Parsky told them:

"The regents will be left with no choice about the contract competition if we do not feel confident that you understand the importance of security, procedures and safety at the lab. If we feel that you understand this and that steps are being taken to address these issues, the regents will not only endorse competing for this contract – we will compete to win."

During three minutes of public comment before the Regents on August 17, I informed them that the lab contract was going to the University of Texas, it was a ‘done deal’. I told them that the management contract change was a chess move the Carlyle Group was making to privatize the nuclear weapons program, and owned 70% of Lockheed Martin Marietta, and that Lockheed a year ago had bought Sandia Labs (they make the trigger for nuclear weapons). When "Carlyle" was mentioned I noticed that the Chair, Gerald Parsky and Vice Chair Richard Blum (married to Senator Diane Feinstein) started shifting around in their chairs. Body language can say a lot. They began a disruptive and loud conversation carried on through the rest of my comments. As a Livermore whistleblower, I commented that the loss of computer discs with classified information and missing keys had happened practically every day for 61 years under sloppy UC management, and that science fraud as well as health and safety violations had been just as bad. What was even more egregious I pointed out, was an article in the July 10, 2004, issue of the Daily Mirror about the murder by the Mossad of Robert Maxwell, a British publisher. It revealed that Maxwell, who was the former owner of the Daily Mirror, was a high level Mossad agent, and had sold PROMIS software to Los Alamos with a back door for the Mossad to spy on the lab. In closing, I told the Regents that no matter who got the contract award, "the University of California would forever be known as the University that poisoned the world…"
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:51 PM
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2. I think that someone should be getting hold of DefSec Gates and asking...
how this could possibly happen! This is not only scary, it's downright dangerous to the entire world... Who is behind this, and what are their plans?
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:56 PM
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3. those would be the questions to ask...
...if we had a functional congress, or press, to ask them...
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:03 PM
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8. Yep, your correct... I know that everyone out there must be absolutely...
scared crap-less about this, or at least those that a. know about it and b. are paying close attention. This just scares the absolute crap out of me... What city in the US is being targeted with this WMD? Damn, this Administration is unreal and no one seems to be able to do anything about it. The one thing that makes me shake my head in disbelief is what do people like Peterus think is going to be left if these morons get their way and a nuke exchange does break out.... God forbid.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:57 PM
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4. In your dreams!!!
:rofl: Impeach Cheney first!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 05:58 PM
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5. Whoever is calling for and inventing these gimmicks is utterly void
Edited on Tue Sep-11-07 05:59 PM by higher class
of imagination. Or only wants the self blinded followers to believe them.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:04 PM
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9. what will happen?
if sh*thead does hit Iraq w/ nukes, what will happen?

I don't mean in the world context I mean here in the US.

How will people react?
Will they storm the whitehouse with pitchforks?

I'm betting our fearless leader thinks the people opposed to it won't do anything.
I'm not sure if I think he's wrong.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:09 PM
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10. M.A.D. kicks in. nt
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-11-07 06:26 PM
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11. nah
Mutually Assured Destruction required opposing parties to each have enough nukes to obliterate the other one.

In 1982?
Big threat.

Now?
I think there would be a long drawn out exchange of a nuclear tit for tat.
Obviously VERY large tits and tats, but I think the only country that still has enough nukes to obliterate all of our population centers is Russia... and I don't think we'd be launching against them.

I think we would most likely launch against somebody in the ME or ourselves (covertly of course)

I actually find contemplating the domestic reaction more interesting.
(I consider it a forgone conclusion that internationally it would be a death knell for the US)
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