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Tue Sep-11-07 06:48 PM
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Poll question: How will Democrats do on 08... |
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I know its really early but is anyone willing to venture a guess?
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Tue Sep-11-07 06:54 PM
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1. I think we will increase majorities and narrowly lose the WH. |
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Tue Sep-11-07 07:00 PM
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But...if they keep screwing ther base over we'll gain in Congress and lose the WH -- Again
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Tue Sep-11-07 07:31 PM
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3. I think we will lose one Congress and lose the WH. |
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Tue Sep-11-07 07:33 PM
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4. The lack of spine will cost all |
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Wed Sep-12-07 10:14 AM
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10. Definitely possible. They have certainly decreased the numbers who will turn out for them |
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And that re-levels the playing field.
Can't the Dems see that?
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Tue Sep-11-07 07:40 PM
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5. They will barely win the WH and lose both houses due to what I seen so far |
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this is what happens when you lose your spin and diss your base. Which the dems have been doing big time.
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Tue Sep-11-07 07:46 PM
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6. I refuse to overestimate the 'talent' of the Democrats to blow it. |
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The most disturbing theme I've been seeing it the tacit belief that the GOP's own behavior will result in the Democrats winning ... by default. It seems to be assumed that Democrats don't really have to do anything. After all, it's a two-party system so the people don't have any other choice, right? Yeah. Right.
The second most disturbing theme I'm seeing is the persistent notion that a "lesser evil" (but not TOO much lesser?) is the 'best' choice. In what universe? Just what's so seductive about the notion that being too different from the most criminal and corrupt regime in our history is somehow a strategic error? In my 'world,' the greater the difference the better.
:shrug:
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Wed Sep-12-07 09:58 AM
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The same people who ran the "Anybody but Bush" campaign in '04 are assuring us that it doesn't matter how much people dislike Clinton--because they dislike Bush (who is not running!) more.
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Wed Sep-12-07 09:54 AM
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Wed Sep-12-07 10:11 AM
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9. For 2008 they are running WITH the wind, not against it as the 2004 primary |
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candidates all did.
Big difference running against the GOP when BushInc is at its WEAKEST point of the last 10 years as opposed to taking on BushInc at its STRONGEST point as the Dems who ran in 2002 and 2004 races.
Also, during this election cycle there won't be as many big name Dems SUPPORTING Bush on his terrorism and Iraq strategies as they publicly did from 2001 through 2006.
That will make a huge difference, too.
But the biggest difference will be that Howard Dean is paying attention to the national and state party infrastructures and the party's FOUR YEAR role in securing the election process.
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Wed Sep-12-07 10:15 AM
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11. I'm afraid the GOP is framing all the issues |
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Apparently the GOP is correcting the problems they had after the last election and coming out with all barrels blasting by framing the issues THEY want discussed. ie immigration, abortion and terrorism.. They are winning as far as I can tell because our leadership is lacking any backbone to stand up to them..
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Wed Sep-12-07 10:38 AM
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12. Abortion is a non issue this time around especially since Romney and Giuliani |
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have publically stated support for abortion. Terrorism at this point is not necessarily a winning issue for the GOP. Immigration sadly is an issue when it should not be. Health Care should be the issue this time around.
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Wed Sep-12-07 10:46 AM
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13. Romney's currently-stated position is anti-choice; all previous positions are down the memory hole. |
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Wed Sep-12-07 10:48 AM
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14. I could see it going either way. |
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Edited on Wed Sep-12-07 10:51 AM by Tesha
Depending our nominee, we could win or lose the Presidency in a big way. It also depends mightily on the California ballot initiative; if that passes, we can forget winning the White House for a long, long time.
Congress? Right now, I'd say people are in a "throw the bums out" mood and in the Senate, this cycle, that works for our benefit as more of their bums are running for election than our bums. In the House? Could go either way, especially depending on Presidential coat-tails or lack thereof.
Right now, I'd say we're teeing up to blow it all big-time.
Tesha
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Wed Sep-12-07 11:12 AM
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This congress legitimizing the bush administration's lies just like the one before it and the "mainstream" candidates being silent on many truths makes what could have been a sure fire victory across the board a tenuous election instead.
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Wed Sep-12-07 11:22 AM
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16. We will win if we can kick Hillary to the curb before the general. nt |
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