There was NO DEBATE on Iraq. Petreaus report then bu$h* speech outlining ongoing war.

[spanone]

and it appears there is nothing anyone can do.

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[bdamomma]

1. it is sickening, and that little rat bastard Bush will say he supports

Petreaus's plan, cause we all know what happens when any General that disagrees with * gets canned.

[frogcycle]

2. arrogant little twit

He seems to continue to get away with just being a spoiled brat. Of course there was never any question that this is what would happen.


Some republican senators seem to be finally reaching their limit. Warner and Hagel, having already said they won't run, may have managed to grow a conscience by so doing.

The debate, if there is one - will come over the add'l spending. bush makes his pronouncement in an effort at a preemptive strike, but maybe they'll be pissed enough to call him on it.

As Randi Rhodes said the other day, we need to stop pounding the dems to "do something" and start pounding those five or six republicans who can be swayed.

[Igel]

3. Timeline:

9/15, the date by which the WH Iraq report has to be presented. It's the deadline imposed/negotiated by/with Congress. The WH is writing that. It'll be handed over, one supposes, on 9/15.

But don't expect much serious to happen on 9/15. Wedged between a two-day weekend break and ....

9/14, 9/13. Rosh Hashanah. Everything stops for a 2-day midweek break.

9/12 ... I have no idea what the House/Senate are doing. Presumably they can find something to occupy their times. Perhaps leave town? Tetris?

9/10, 9/11 Petraeus' report.

Now, most people have decided to conflate, for the purposes of discussion, the WH report and Petraeus' report.

The debate on the official report and on Petraeus' 'testimony' should, therefore, start in the House and the Senate.

You want debate, check back next Monday. Debate is a mite improper while the main testimony is being offered, there's every disincentive for the House to debate while Petraeus is testifying to the Senate (they don't want to step on each other). And it's best not to spread the debate over a break. Hence ... check back Monday.