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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 03:51 PM
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Petraeus = Westmoreland or why do we keep falling for this shit?
http://www.suntimes.com/news/commentary/letters/552978,CST-EDT-vox12z.article

Bush's Iraq strategy echoes the failures in Vietnam War

September 12, 2007

I was 11. I lived in Puerto Rico and was unable to understand why our horrible president wanted to send my brother to a country called Vietnam. All I knew was people were sent there to die.

President Lyndon B. Johnson recalled his top general in Vietnam to defend the war against criticism from Congress. There, William Westmoreland said the military had reached a point where "the end begins to come into view." There would be "light at the end of the tunnel," but "mopping up the enemy" might take two more years. I could not understand there was this thing called a "domino theory," and if Vietnam fell, it would be the "end of our world as we knew it."

It would be five years and 58,000 dead American soldiers later that Richard Nixon proclaimed "peace with honor." As an adult, I know what that means: We lost Vietnam and the world did not end.

Gen. David Petraeus gives the disturbing impression that he, too, is more focused on Washington than the unfolding disaster in Iraq. His description of the war sounds more like a football game. That serves neither U.S. nor Iraqi interests. Bush is counting on the general to restore credibility to his discredited Iraq policy. He frequently refers to the escalation of American forces last January as Petraeus' strategy, as if it were not his own creation. In effect, he is hiding behind his general.

Who is the decider? Who is the commander in chief?

Bush should not be allowed to pass on his responsibility one more time and conceal the facts from the American people.

Carlos T. Mock, M.D., Uptown



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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 03:53 PM
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1. Yes, equal. I'm old enough to remember, and confirm that you're correct.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-12-07 04:00 PM
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2. War Is A Racket and MONEY is the entire reason for war...
<snip>
WAR IS A RACKET
by Two-Time Congressional Medal of Honor Recipient:
Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC

Chapter One

WAR IS A RACKET


WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.

A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.

In the World War a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.

How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?

Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few – the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.
<MORE>


<snip to the final chapter>
CHAPTER FIVE

TO HELL WITH WAR!


I am not a fool as to believe that war is a thing of the past. I know the people do not want war, but there is no use in saying we cannot be pushed into another war.

Looking back, Woodrow Wilson was re-elected president in 1916 on a platform that he had "kept us out of war" and on the implied promise that he would "keep us out of war." Yet, five months later he asked Congress to declare war on Germany.

In that five-month interval the people had not been asked whether they had changed their minds. The 4,000,000 young men who put on uniforms and marched or sailed away were not asked whether they wanted to go forth to suffer and die.

Then what caused our government to change its mind so suddenly?

Money.

An allied commission, it may be recalled, came over shortly before the war declaration and called on the President. The President summoned a group of advisers. The head of the commission spoke. Stripped of its diplomatic language, this is what he told the President and his group:



"There is no use kidding ourselves any longer. The cause of the allies is lost. We now owe you (American bankers, American munitions makers, American manufacturers, American speculators, American exporters) five or six billion dollars.

If we lose (and without the help of the United States we must lose) we, England, France and Italy, cannot pay back this money...and Germany won't.

So..."

Had secrecy been outlawed as far as war negotiations were concerned, and had the press been invited to be present at that conference, or had radio been available to broadcast the proceedings, America never would have entered the World War. But this conference, like all war discussions, was shrouded in utmost secrecy. When our boys were sent off to war they were told it was a "war to make the world safe for democracy" and a "war to end all wars."

Well, eighteen years after, the world has less of democracy than it had then. Besides, what business is it of ours whether Russia or Germany or England or France or Italy or Austria live under democracies or monarchies? Whether they are Fascists or Communists? Our problem is to preserve our own democracy.

And very little, if anything, has been accomplished to assure us that the World War was really the war to end all wars.

Yes, we have had disarmament conferences and limitations of arms conferences. They don't mean a thing. One has just failed; the results of another have been nullified. We send our professional soldiers and our sailors and our politicians and our diplomats to these conferences. And what happens?

The professional soldiers and sailors don't want to disarm. No admiral wants to be without a ship. No general wants to be without a command. Both mean men without jobs. They are not for disarmament. They cannot be for limitations of arms. And at all these conferences, lurking in the background but all-powerful, just the same, are the sinister agents of those who profit by war. They see to it that these conferences do not disarm or seriously limit armaments.

The chief aim of any power at any of these conferences has not been to achieve disarmament to prevent war but rather to get more armament for itself and less for any potential foe.

There is only one way to disarm with any semblance of practicability. That is for all nations to get together and scrap every ship, every gun, every rifle, every tank, every war plane. Even this, if it were possible, would not be enough.

The next war, according to experts, will be fought not with battleships, not by artillery, not with rifles and not with machine guns. It will be fought with deadly chemicals and gases.

Secretly each nation is studying and perfecting newer and ghastlier means of annihilating its foes wholesale. Yes, ships will continue to be built, for the shipbuilders must make their profits. And guns still will be manufactured and powder and rifles will be made, for the munitions makers must make their huge profits. And the soldiers, of course, must wear uniforms, for the manufacturer must make their war profits too.

But victory or defeat will be determined by the skill and ingenuity of our scientists.

If we put them to work making poison gas and more and more fiendish mechanical and explosive instruments of destruction, they will have no time for the constructive job of building greater prosperity for all peoples. By putting them to this useful job, we can all make more money out of peace than we can out of war – even the munitions makers.

So...I say,

TO HELL WITH WAR!

<link> http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

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